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BLACK REDSTARTS IN MANCHESTER CITY CENTRE


town hall/albert square. 6.50pm singing on spire next to union jack flag,then flew above the clock then right upto very top on the globe then flew off towards deansgate.


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dave broome wrote:

steven burke wrote:



did have a load off nude cyclists going around albert square at 7.40




..and I presume nobody batted an eyelid , but the moment we dare to get the bins out to look at Black Redstarts in the city centre, passer-bys look at us as if we're pervy wierdos






dave,everyone was just laughing,whistling,cars beeping horns and even taking pictures. so i joined in and took a video off themso i guess im a pervy wierdo now and the chap with the mirror this morning ,like kerry says very disturbing.
so thats the reason for no black redstarts

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Nude cyclists may be strange but at 8 am there was a bloke walking around holding a large mirror to his face & yelling at his reflection - very disturbing!! Maybe it was all a bit too surreal for the black redstart - don't blame it for moving on!

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did have a load off nude cyclists going around albert square at 7.40




..and I presume nobody batted an eyelid , but the moment we dare to get the bins out to look at Black Redstarts in the city centre, passer-bys look at us as if we're pervy wierdos



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kerry skelhorn wrote:

No sign of the black redstart between 7:30 and 11:15 this morning All those lucky birders who turned up & saw it straight away - I'm so jealous! Nice to meet Steven, Adrian & John though & see the photos taken the previous evening! I do hope the peregrine didn't have it for breakfast!






nice to meet you too kerry,sorry you did not see the bird. i did pop back around 7.20pm when i got off the train in piccadilly, but heard nothing seen nothing hopefully they wont be far away.

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No sign of the black redstart between 7:30 and 11:15 this morning All those lucky birders who turned up & saw it straight away - I'm so jealous! Nice to meet Steven, Adrian & John though & see the photos taken the previous evening! I do hope the peregrine didn't have it for breakfast!

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kerry what time was you there at, i was doing exactly that.

sat with adrian dancy for a while observing the bird whilst on the spire next to the union jack flag,also had the peregrine falcon over at one point (dont think adrian liked that) still feeding on the town hall around 8.45pm but then disappeared and so did i with a numb bum.
did have a load off nude cyclists going around albert square at 7.40

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Steve Suttill wrote: How do you identify a birder? Is there a field guide?
and not all birders wear woolly hats and have grey beards - that's just me

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Yes I must admit I was a bit reluctant to get the bins out of the bag & walk around that part of Manchester alone - perfect way to attract wierdos! Just sat on the benches facing the town hall trying not to look too conspicuous!

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Ian McKerchar wrote:

I think the vast majority of county birders have now connected with Black Redstart over the years in one location or another and hence the apparent lack of interest in going down to the busy city centre and breaking your neck staring up of the tops of buildings






Although, I have seen them often enough in City Centre Ian, I for one will be breaking my neck in the coming weeks for my Manchester Borough Year List!!

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Have been out past 4 days running & not seen another birder!






How do you identify a birder? Is there a field guide?

Not all of us would walk around the city centre with bins displayed prominently - with some justification!

and not all birders wear woolly hats and have grey beards - that's just me

Steve

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4.20pm feeding on top off town hall. Was sat on the bench facing the town hall it went from right to left and then back to the right and then dissapeared over the top towards st peters square.

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I think the vast majority of county birders have now connected with Black Redstart over the years in one location or another and hence the apparent lack of interest in going down to the busy city centre and breaking your neck staring up of the tops of buildings

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2pm splendid view on window washing railing high above Cafe Nero jnct Mosley St/Princess St very black male. Then flew off to Town Hall extension. Guess everyone with time off is staring into a field on Chat Moss. I'm lucky enough to do this in my lunchbreak

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Have been out past 4 days running & not seen another birder!

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1.10 Just moved to roofs around Kennedy St/Cooper St. Hard viewing conditions and constant danger of being run over! Surprised nobody else trying their luck

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Currently 12.45 singing from a turret with a fleur de leys just to the left of the Union Jack flag. Slightly hairy viewing from bus stop on Princees St as my bins are nearly going straight into the sun!

Just moved to the shade of the Frank Rostron shirt-makers sign but he's gone quiet again

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Friday 3rd of June 2011 12:56:16 PM

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Friday 3rd of June 2011 12:57:14 PM

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I did go out again last night and (as always happens) I was just turning around to leave after an nearly two hours when I heard one.
followed it down booth street where it perched with another for a few minutes on an old church like building, opposite the sir alfred abbercombie the took off over the police station.

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9:30am

I had no luck at all with the Manchester Black Redstarts last summer, so I didn't really expect to see one within five seconds of turning up at Albert Square this morning.

I love it when a plan comes together... The bird was flitting from spire to spire, around the location described by Adam below (left-hand side of the Town Hall Building as you face it from Albert Square).

I will return after work with my scope, so doubtless it will be nowhere to be seen by then!

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Singing once again this morning at 8.00 from the spire of the Town Hall at the corner of Princess Street and Albert Square. Stayed in the same position for a good 10 minutes.

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You must have been there the same time as me then.
but may go out again in an hour or so, it is after all a nice day.

I think your right about mornings..



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I went out yesterday pm to look for it and heard something briefly from an ariel on a building to the opposite side of the small town hall spire - but the bird flew off as soon as I'd located it so can't be sure it was the black redstard. I spent ages looking & listening ofter that between 4:30 and 5:30 pm but had no luck. Had some nice views of a peregrine circling over though.

Sounds like early mornings are the best time to look.

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Been out two days running and not seen or heard a thing..

Where do they go during the afternoon? (stupid question?)


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Male singing and flycatching from top of flag pole on top of the Ship Canal building at 6:45 am until a pair of Mistle Thrushes dared to fly through, whereupon it chased them into Albert Square and then carried on from its perch on the spire of the town hall on the corner of Princess Street. It had returned to the Ship Canal building when I left at 7:30, where others have since seen it.

Nice to meet Iain Johnson this morning.

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Singing from the spire of the Town Hall at the corner of Princess 0street and Albert Square at 7.50.

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Black Redstart singing from the top of flag poll on Ship Canal House, King Street at 7.40 this morning. Flew down King Street to the next building and continued singing there.

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Black Redstart now singing and showing well on the town hall building, mainly from the small spire on the Princess Street/Albert Square corner.

Info thanks to Adrian Dancy

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Standing opposite Lloyds Bank as the Town Hall clock struck 9, two birds with the right jizz (I was looking into the sun) flew up King Street towards the Ship Canal Building. I followed and heard singing from roofs on Kennedy Street not far from Albert Square.

Open you office window, Adrian - you should be able to hear!

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I saw the Black Redstart myself shortly after Adam's sighting, singing from an aerial on Lloyds Bank. At about 0807 he flew over King Street in the direction of Four Yards/South King Street.

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Black Redstart heard and then seen this morning at 7.45 from above the Diesel shop on Cross Street (opposite Lloyds building). It then flew across Cross Street to position itself above the Chop House.
A life time first for me. Having associated myself with the song this morning, it was not difficult to identify when I heard it.
A great start to my working day.

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It's still New Cross though

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I was watching Black Redstarts in the city centre before they'd invented the "Northern Quarter" smile.gif

What was it you were saying about my grey hair, Ian? disbelief.gif

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Ancoats Steve . I hope you're not referring to the Northern Quarter as Ancoats! New Cross perhaps but Ancoats...

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King Street? Are the Ancoats birds going up in the world?

Knew something had to turn up soon. Well done Adrian!

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Black Redstart confirmed as singing from the Lloyds Bank building this morning (first heard briefly last week) at the junction of King Street and Cross Street. The bird was then seen to fly towards Deansgate along King Street at 9:30ish.

Info thanks to Adrian Dancy

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I feel a song coming on! What ate the Peregrine?

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That wouldn't be the Kestrel that was killed by a Peregrine was it? cry.gifcry.gif

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There remains the (real) possibility that the Northern Quarter male (which probably toured the city centre on occasion) was taken by a Kestrel and fed to it's young!

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I was wondering about the black redstart(s) - no sightings for several weeks? cry.gif

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Nothing seen or heard in Spear St area all week cry.gifcry.gif

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Singing at 1.05pm from buildings on George St heard from the China Town car park but once again by teh time I'd gone back to the office for my bins he was gone. Busy boy I hope he strikes lucky soon.

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Historically they have bred in the Portland St area as it's near the canal.

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Hello

I'm new to this forum but have been reading it to help me find black redstarts so I thought I'd return the favour!

I heard and saw one singing on Thursday 16th evening, around 930pm on Faraday street, on the large building near to Lever street. He was previously on Spear street.

I also think I heard one in the distance when stood outside the Premier Inn on Portland street the following morning, has anyone heard them in this area before?


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I feel we should have a police incedent room type whiteboard with his movements tracked on it!

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l heard and saw the male (presumably) at 9pm, last night.

l was on Clarence Street and he was on the top of a building on Tib Lane at the top of Cross Street.
Very vocal and flitting around.

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What time Mark?






Sorry it was 8-30 again. He seems to like that time for his evening chorus.

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What time Mark?

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Male giving his usual Friday evening performance. This time on building where Spear Street meets Back Piccadily. Sang for few mins and then flew off towards Stevenson Square.

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Well, it would be nigh on impossible to seperate two second calender year birds on plumage so the chance of two (or more) birds is far from unlikely. That said, having combined working and birding in the city centre for the past 17 years including regularly being privvy to many priviledged views from high vantage points it is very easy to underestimate just how big the city centre of Manchester is. It is actually tiny, particularly as the Black Redstart flies!

Having pondered seriously over the current situation in an attempt to decide how many individuals may be involved I too have come to the conclusion that it is perhaps most likely all sightings relate to just one bird. Of course this may, hopefully, be proved wrong in due course

The majority of sighting come from the 'northern quarter' of the city but the sighting from China Town is not that far down from Lever Street (where the bird has been tracked to). China Town is of course very close to the town hall. The town hall is very close to Bridge Street which is in turn just down the road from St.Annes Square and is on the way back towards the northern quarter. Even the Boddingtons sighting is but a short flit from the northern quarter too. Could this male be on a circuit of the city centre, expanding it's chances of attracting a mate?

It seems feasible although I wouldn't be surprised if there was two or even three

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Friday 18th of June 2010 10:20:15 PM

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In one of the fastest u-turns in history I have changed my mind.

The Bridge Street bird so closely resembles the bird I saw in the Hilton Street area that I am comfortable that there is every chance that they were one and the same.

The Bridge Street bird showed well late afternoon.

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