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Post Info TOPIC: BLACK REDSTARTS IN MANCHESTER CITY CENTRE


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RE: BLACK REDSTARTS IN MANCHESTER CITY CENTRE


A Black Redstart was on the roof of Central Library at around 11am this morning.

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Rob Smallwood wrote:

Totally agree Ian - I meant release the numbers?


 Hi Rob.

I might have replied earlier but have had computer issues and 2 operations on my foot and the doctors haven't finished with me yet! 

I can only inform in regard to what I know. There were 2 nest sites that I observed. Both sites had not less than 4 birds fledge. At the site where the birds fledged first, one of the fledglings was predated by a Lesser-black Backed Gull within a couple of hours of fledging. It is a miracle that more were not predated. The birds dispersed a week or so after fledging. At the second site, the birds stayed around for much longer, and as I understand it, birds have been seen recently in the city centre.  I will be going into town tomorrow to see if any are still around. It is possible birds have bred elsewhere in the city. If they have bred, I am not aware of their breeding. As for the second pair I was able to witness both adult birds lose their tails through moult and regain them. Their behaviour was amusing and quite endearing at that stage. 

I might add that each year I look in places where they have not been reported. This year I looked around the Cambridge Industrial Estate/Strangeways areas...the environs there is perfect for them, it seems Manchester/Salford birds prefer the buzz of a busy city. I will be looking this area over again on a more regular basis.

I will add a few images over the week-end.

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Totally agree Ian - I meant release the numbers?

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Actual breeding locations shouldn’t be posted here Rob, in case they are used again next season. 

Of course their real value lies in being recorded with the official recording organisations (GMBRG and GMEU), not least so breeding locations can be protected from the many planning applications in the city centre.



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One was repirted near Victoria Station at the weekend. Now the breeding season is over is it safe to release the known breeding attempts?



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Well done Andrea.

Black redstart singing & showing on bootle street this afternoon, another or posibly the same one seen on the library just before getting on the tram in St Peters square this evening.

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Heard and saw my first ever black redstart at lunchtime today on the chimney pot of the Albert Square Chop House  It may have been a brief view but made me smile for the rest of the afternoon - I know, I'm easily pleased.........

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After weeks of trying I *finally* caught up with one of the black redstarts this lunchtime. About 12:40 it was singing from the Town Hall roof and hawking for insects around the windows of one of the walkways across Lloyd Street. Lovely to see. Turns out the secret is to go into town to buy birthday presents and leave the bins and camera at home. :)

They were a jolly sight easier to connect with back when they lived in the dodgy old factory on Port Street!



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Black Redstart singing from back of Bootle Street at the old Police Station and Rudy's Pizza again today at 10.48am then flew off at 10.50am towards Deansgate. Images attached shows the bird viewed from Bootle Street where I've heard it recently as previously posted, from the gates of the old Bootle Street police station which is now a derelict yard and has limited viewing.

-- Edited by Rob Creek on Friday 22nd of June 2018 03:32:30 PM

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Singing male Black Redstart on the Convention Complex off Windmill Street this morning.

 

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One singing from the Town Hall extension as the clock struck 9 this morning.

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One was singing from the roof of Zizi's on King Street then flew across to the Town Hall at 14.30 today

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As per James' report, he's still there as I type! 



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One singing loudly off the town hall at the LLoyd Street end at 08:30 this morning :)

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One singing above King St near Waterstones around 13:00

I wonder how many individuals there are in the City?



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Black Redstart heard singing at 07.20am in St Peter's Square on China town side. It eventually came into view about an hour later and flew onto the town extension roof and then disappeared from view.



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I heard singing from town hall extension when I arrived at 5.10pm. Singing stopped at 5.20pm.

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Tuesday 12th June 07:10

One singing this morning close to the Waterhouse pub and Town hall on Princess Street.

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I have had two probable sightings and heard singing around my office on Bridge Street. 



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Heard but not seen singing from the Town Hall today around 4pm as I wandered through Albert Sq.

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Black Redstart singing, feeding between Carlton House and the Town Hall at 12:05 before flying over to the top of Piccolinos on Princess St. 



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Male singing clearly from the roof of Pret a Manger at the junction of Oxford Street and Chepstow Street at 4:30pm this afternoon, singing from the round ball like object on the roof.

Phone shot attached, which if you can zoom in the Bird is 'just' visible!!!

 



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black redstart singing, feeding & showing well on the cathedral & corner exchange this afternoon from 3.10pm, watched for over an hour as it was flitting around.
another was seen & heard singing on the extension of the town hall at 5.35pm for several minutes before it flew towards the midland hotel & lost to view.

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One singing at 12:56 today on Blackfriars House on the corner of Parsonage and Blackfriars Street, high up on a lightning conductor/ aerial. Actually got to see it as well this time too.

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One singing above Waterhouse pub 10:45

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Three Black Redstart showing well at the top of the Town Hall, Albert Square facing side 08:50-09:10

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Black Redstart singing back and forth from The Waterhouse Pub/Town Hall from 16:30 until 16:40 then flew down Princess Street to the chimmneys of the Princess St Hotel where it continued to sing for another 10 minutes. At this time it appeared to be joined by another bird which without my bins handy could not 100% confirm, however I am pretty confident by size and vibrating behaviour was another Black Redstart. Both birds then flew towards the Town Hall in which one bird continued to sing until 16:55.

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A lot of the roads were closed on Monday around the Town Hall, Albert Square, Peter St, Bootle St (where my delivery was) and part of Deansgate coz of a church march. I phoned the customer at 11.30am to notify them the roads were closed but within minutes they were opened up one by one and when they'd passed you could hear the Black Redstart.
I'm now wondering if the singing is echoing down those side streets that are literally yards from the Town Hall?


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One singing away from the Lloyd Street end of Town Hall this morning.



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Rob Creek wrote:

Bank holiday Monday approx 11.40am.

- Black Redstart singing from same location I posted last month, from the square behind the old Bootle Street police station not far from the Town Hall and Central Library.





Interesting. At approx. the same time I had it or another singing from top of town hall in much the same place as the described on Sunday. Singing from the chimney at top right in the attached photo then dropped to feed on the ledge below the smaller arched windows.

Cheers John.



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Bank holiday Monday approx 11.40am.

- Black Redstart singing from same location I posted last month, from the square behind the old Bootle Street police station not far from the Town Hall and Central Library.

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Black redstart singing from Town Hall this morning from about 10.15; Lloyd Street side, at the very edge of the building, showing, but quite high up.

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Female feeding on the roof of the Vine Inn, Kennedy Street this afternoon around 3.20pm. Flew off eventually in the direction of the Town Hall.

Great views, as my office overlooks the rooftops of Kennedy Street.

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As I was about to leave the office earlier, I heard the Black Redstart singing. Went over to the window and looked up just as the bird was flying across from the Town Hall right towards me, at eye level. He must have landed a few feet above my head on the Extension roof.



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One was singing from the Town Hall roof (Princess Street side) at12:45 today.

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One on the building north of St Anne's Church. Also pair of Mallard on the fountain pool near the football museum.



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A Black Redstart was singing just now from the Town Hall roof (Lloyd Street end of Albert Square).



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16.50 Black Redstart heard singing from a roof on the section of St Ann Street south of the square, then moved down across Deansgate to St Mary's Street on the roof of the building facing the side of Kendals before relocating to the far side of Parsonage Gardens. Was meeting friends for meal/theatre so couldn't pursue it any further.

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Monday 23rd April
Black Redstart singing possibly from roof of GAP store near St.Ann's Church at 1.25pm, couldn't see it though.

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Black Redstart singing this afternoon (4pm) from the roof of St Anne's Church. Then flew up St Anne's Street and onto rooftops at the junction of Cross Street and Chapel Walks.

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Caught up with our resident Black Redstart again today at 9:25 on the chimneys of the Waterhouse pub on Princess Street, singing and showing well.
Brilliant to catch up with so many birders this week Steven, Adrian, Steve, Shannon. Hope to see you all around soon. Im going to start spreading out my search in hope to find more Black Redstarts in the surrounding areas of the city centre.

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6:00pm today, on the roof of Carlton House. Was there for a minute then flew in the direction of the town hall and another bird joined. Possibly a pair? impossible to id the 2nd bird though. 



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09:00 Finally tracked down a singing black redstart to the rooftops around 1761, Tib Lane just now, to the north of the Town Hall.

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Black redstart on carlton house this aft/eve, heard more than seen.

Nice to meet Paul baker.



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There's a good article on this very website: http://www.manchesterbirding.com/articles.html


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Black Redstart just appeared on Carlton House at 4.18pm Also Peregrine on the Town Hall clock tower

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Well said Rob. After watching the same bird as yesterday again today I feel more confident that this bird is in fact a juvenile male, after factoring in the plumage along with how vocal this bird has been behaving it only adds to this assumption.

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I'm certainly no expert but in my view I wouldn't assume that just because it's in female looking plumage that it is a female. Some males never develop the plumage you associate with males, and remain looking like females or immature males.
It's called NEOTONY according to something I've read online with reference to Nigel Odin who runs Landguard Observatory where they've rung hundreds of Black Redstarts. They also say singing females have been noted too!
Confusing or what?

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I wonder how important the green roof on the Town Hall extension is for black redstart foraging.
If it's used regularly I bet there's some good views from inside the building over the green roof.

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Black redstart seen on Carlton House this morning, as per Paul's post below.

Nice to meet you, Paul.

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