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RE: Holcombe Moor and environs


Hi Frank,
Re your post on Paddys Pond it is marked on the OS at 767171. (Pond Bay)
It was named after Colonel Panton OBE 1st Battalion Queens Regt who was once CO at the Ranges during his time in the Forces.. He was a top man and lover of all things green and outdoors and apparantly spent much of his time by the pond
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I've seen it mentioned before, Rob, but where is Paddy's Pond? It's not marked on any OS map, so presumably it's a local name or somewhere where Val Doonican grazes his goat.

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Short eared owl hunting off Watling street, Affetside, at 4pm

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Originally posted today by Keith Holland:

Short eared owl hunting in fields off Turton Road 7.15am

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Last light walk over to check the Stonechats were hanging on ok.. Pair still present in same loc .. Green Woodpecker near Paddys Pond..

Rob Archer

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Evening walk as the sunset today, great view of the Little Owl at the small quarry. Alas did not get to see the Short Eared Owl. Heard yaffling of Green Woodpecker over Reddisher Woods.

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Afternoon walk over saw the Red Brook Stonechats still in situ and a Short Eared Owl below Harcles Hill..

Rob Archer

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2 Raven only birds of note in fact only birds seen!

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very windy

Raven, 2 Stonechats, Heard Greater Spotted Woodpecker and Nuthatch Reddisher wood

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Over 100 fieldfare in various flocks of between 5 and 50 in the valley off Moorbottom road plus 4 kestrel.

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10 - 11.30am. Flock of 70+ Feildfare foraging in hawthorn bushes and on the ground in the field between Moorbottom Road and Saplin wood. Plus a single Ring Ouzel seen twice in the group. 2 Stonechat in on the slopes above.

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8am. Flock of 12 fieldfare in hawthorn bush off Ramsbottom road Hawkshaw plus a 2nd flock of around 30 flying towards Affetside.

4.30pm. Flock of 80+ lapwing flying from jumbles towards Affetside

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11.30 am - 2.00 pm

Walk along Moor Bottom Rd and up the valley.

3 Flocks of Fieldfare (30ish each) travelling up the valley from the rifle range (S to N)

5 buzzards in the air together over the ridge looking to the west. Trailed off one by one eastwards over Holcombe Moor.

Two pairs (m/f) of stonechats quite confident and close to Moor Bottom Road

At least 4 kestrels hunting (successfully) and two sparrowhawks. Spectacular aerial display at one point involving sparrowhawk, kestrel and mobbing crows

Several meadow pipits along the way


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7.30 - 11.30am

Had a go at migration watching from peel tower

Picked up a large skein of distant ducks to my south they were heading west towards winter hill, managed to get the winter hill watchers onto them and they turned out to be Pintail and about 80 in total!!

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Hen Harrier - ringtail picked up coming over the valley above Ramsbottom went SW and also picked up at winter hill

Ring Ouzel 2 (1 sw at 8.35 and a Male south 10.06)

Woodpigeon 960 sw
Stock Dove sw
Skylark 32 sw
Meadow Pipit 140 sw
Fieldfare 186 sw
Redwing 117 sw
Chaffinch 40 sw
Starling 100 nw
Jackdaw 121 sw


-- Edited by Simon Johnson on Saturday 15th of October 2011 03:17:38 PM

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Fine afternoon for Birds of Prey over the ranges;
2 Juv Peregrine together
8 Buzzards in the air together across towards Quarlton
3 Sparrowhawk
4 Kestrel
2 Little Owl, Harcles Quarry
1 Raven

Rob Archer

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Originally posted by Mike Horwood today:

inbetween showers 1100 1500 , 50+ mipits 2 stone chat, 6 wheatear, 2 whinchat on footpath below moor bottom road and just above army training ground, not seen anyhere for 15 yrs , green woody, many swallows,10+ house martins, crow with reddish ( !!!) bill

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A very early start on a day spent birding in the Bury Borough.

The moors were quiet to start but picked up as it got warmer

Fem/imm Merlin flew off the moor at peel tower SW
Kestrel 7
Sparrowhawk 3
Peregrine
Buzzard
Tawny owl - paddy's pond
Raven 3

2 Sparrowhawk, 4 Kestrel and a Raven were playing about by Peel tower when the Merlin came bombing over chase for a while by the Kestrels it circled round before powering off.

Redstart Male and Female in the minature pony field
Stonechat 3 ad male and 2 just fledged juv red brook
Wheatear 3
Siskin 3 - saplin wood
Goldrest 2 paddys pond
Skylark 2
Meadow Pipit 150+
Goldfinch 15
Green Woodpecker 2

Vis Mig included
Cormorant flock of 6 SE
House Martin 24 SE
Meadow Pipit 15 E
Swallow 211 mainly E SE

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rob archer wrote:

Ivan,
Stonechats have bred successfully this year in the Holcombe area up near Red Brook . There were at least 2 juv fledged about a month or so up there and the birds are still in the same area ( On a second brood I would imagine)
The same goes for Wheatear up there.. 3 pairs have bred that I know of, of which only one pair are still in the area feeding young (As of yesterday). Another 2 pairs have nested further along Moorbottom Road into Lancs.
The only other GM Stonechats I know of this year were up by Ashworth Moor Res and also in the Naden Valley. Both have nested successfully.

Rob Archer




Cheers Rob, thats good news. I didn't walk as far as that.



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Ivan,
Stonechats have bred successfully this year in the Holcombe area up near Red Brook . There were at least 2 juv fledged about a month or so up there and the birds are still in the same area ( On a second brood I would imagine)
The same goes for Wheatear up there.. 3 pairs have bred that I know of, of which only one pair are still in the area feeding young (As of yesterday). Another 2 pairs have nested further along Moorbottom Road into Lancs.
The only other GM Stonechats I know of this year were up by Ashworth Moor Res and also in the Naden Valley. Both have nested successfully.

Rob Archer



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Steve Suttill wrote:

Following the last couple of winters, it seems to be bad for Stonechats, fullstop

Haven't seen one all year and I've visited about 10 former breeding sites over in the east of the county. I don't think I saw any last year either.

It's not just round here either. They've disappeared from the place I always go for a holiday on the west coast of Scotland and, being down at sea level, their winters haven't been as cold.

I'm afraid the Stonechat map on the new atlas won't give the full picture and will need some explanatory notes!

Steve




Thanks Steve for this

-- Edited by Ivan Ellison on Tuesday 12th of July 2011 11:08:13 PM

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Following the last couple of winters, it seems to be bad for Stonechats, fullstop

Haven't seen one all year and I've visited about 10 former breeding sites over in the east of the county. I don't think I saw any last year either.

It's not just round here either. They've disappeared from the place I always go for a holiday on the west coast of Scotland and, being down at sea level, their winters haven't been as cold.

I'm afraid the Stonechat map on the new atlas won't give the full picture and will need some explanatory notes!

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A couple of hours there this afternoon looking for Stonechats and Wheatears. Didn't see any Stonechats but got a couple of Juv Wheatears on one of the walls, Has it been a bad year for Stonechats breeding in the area.

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Walked over..0530 till 1130..Saw the following of note;
c20 Blackcap through the day
many Willow Warbler
2 Chiffchaff
4 Grasshopper Warbler
2 Whitethroat
1 Garden Warbler
2 Green Woodpecker
2 Curlew on the Ranges with 3 juv
f Sparrowhawk
Lesser Redpoll
m Stonechat
m f Wheatear
Dipper
Spotted Flycatcher on the way home in Lancs

Rob Archer



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went there yesterday afternoon from 4:00 pm till 6:30 pm
2 stone chat (J)
1 little owl near red brook gully
7 wheatear
10 meadow pippit
2 green woodpecker
1 curlew
3 skylarks heard more singing though
1 kesterel
and 1 linnet

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Walked over..0500 till 0930..Saw the following;
Dipper high near Red Brook Gully.
2 Green Woodpecker
c20 Lesser Redpoll
6 Linnet
2 Whitethroat
2 Garden Warbler
1 Chiffchaff
Many Willow Warbler and Blackcap
Cuckoo flying between Ranges/Sapllin Wood.
2 Grey Heron

Rob Archer

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a walk along down from the firing range today were 2 green woodpeckers and 1 little owl, lots of wheatears and meadow pipits, skylarks, 2 peregrines together, 1 calling golden plover, 1 curlew, 1 stonechat, male, though i agree with previous posts there are not many stonechats about recently, cry.gif

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Originally posted today for Holcombe village by Mike Horwood :

Garden Warbler at old road end of village very visable and a long song in the rain at 15- 30

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Holcombe Moor


Lunch time walk

Male Redstart in gardens off Holcombe Old road
Garden Warbler 2 - bottom Saplin wood
Blackcap - several
Chiffchaff 5
Jay 2
Starling - several squadrons flying up valley to feed - over 100 birds
Kestrel
Spahawk
Wheatear 6
Green Woodpecker 2
GSW 2
Linnet 15 - single flock flew over
Redpoll

No sign of any Kite

-- Edited by Simon Johnson on Monday 2nd of May 2011 02:43:55 PM

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Another visit yesterday...sadly no ring ouzel. Plenty of Wheatear.

A song thrush taking food to the nest in the morning was seen feeding a chick in the evening on the slope of the hill.

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Thanks for that Keith

I visited Holcombe Moor today...it's a two buses and tram trip for me plus a long walk lugging gear around.

I only stuck to the main path and got:-

4 Wheatear
4 Ring ouzel
1 Green woodpecker that flew over my head twice
Oddly a tawny owl calling from the wood below at about 1500hrs
1 Kestrel
Plenty of meadow pipits ..not counted
1 Sky lark
1 Curlew calling
Usual corvids
4 Mistle thrush
2 willow warbler

I heard the ring ouzel at the top of the hill and for me going straight up is a hard climb. I managed a shot so I will just have to see how it has turned out. Returned exhausted.



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Adrian Dancy wrote:

It seems from recent posts we are without stonechats.





I have not seen one this year and I know that I am not alone over this, as we have been discussing Stonechats in our group. Although a few have been posted they are just not at the usual places.
It was the same story in Norfolk when we visited in March.
Barn Owl deaths last winter have been in the news,but I think that the point you make is correct and Stonechats have been effected too.


-- Edited by keith mills on Sunday 24th of April 2011 04:12:49 PM

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Walk this evening 5-7pm quite windy

1 Ring Ouzel m
2 Kestrel
10+Wheatears
3 Linnet
2 Green woodpecker
Tons of Mipits
3 Swallow

Ouzel flew out of the area behind the sheep pens where they were last year and went up onto the side of the hill. No Stonechats tonight but there's at least a pair right at the bottom end of the valley in the firing range if not 2.

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It seems from recent posts we are without stonechats.

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9 until 11.30 this am.
Walk along Moorbottom Road, with a dip into the woods on the way back.
smile.gifGreen Woodpecker 1 (4 others heard)
Willow Warbler 1 ( 4 others heard)
Swallows 7
Linnets...at least 9
Mistle Thrush 6
Wheatear 3
Pied Wagtail 1
Plenty Magpies , Jackdaws, Crows , Wood pigeons, Blue and Great Tit.
Few Pheasant and Blackbird.
Chaffinch 1 seen, several heard.
BH Gull 1

No luck with the Grey Partridgeblankstare.gif
Nice to meet David Wells.

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Walk along moor bottom road this eve (still no Ouzels for me)

Grey Partridge 2
Pheasant 15 - all males
Linnet 10 +
Goldfinch 10+
Wheatear 9
Green Woodpecker 2
Willow Warbler 5
Stock Dove

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Whilst doing my BBS Survey Squares this am around the Ranges/Redisher saw the following of note;
1 f Ring Ouzel north of Paddys Pond
Single Golden Plover by Lark Hill
Single Brown Hare.

Walking home through Saplin;
1 f Sparrowhawk
1 Grey Partridge
1 Lesser Redpoll

Rob Archer

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Early start..0530 till 1530 over to Jumbles.. Best bits were;

6 Ring Ouzel (4m) just above the Ranges
6 Wheatear
2 Kestrel
Pair of Buzzards Moorbottom Road
Little Owl in a spot I have not seen them before just in Lancs
Many Willow Warblers and Blackcaps
2 Chiffchaff
c15 Fieldfare
2 Green Woodpecker
1 f Sparrowhawk, Affetside

2 Goosander (mf) Two Brooks Fishing Lodge

2 Common Tern and 5 f Goosander on Jumbles Res

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2 hours this evening - dead is the only word to describe it

Wheatear 3
Curlew 2

-- Edited by Simon Johnson on Thursday 14th of April 2011 09:30:06 PM

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Walk over early doors before work..0520..0810..
Grants Wood.
1 Blackcap (h)
4 Willow Warbler
2 Chiffchaff

Moorbottom Road.
2 Goosander (mf) over Saplin Wood
1 m Stonechat below Red Brook gully
8 Wheatear (4 m)
1 Kestrel
2 f Ring Ouzel up the Glen near Cinder Hill Farm remains..
Poss 6 Green Woodpeckers heard throughout the local woodlands.
6 Linnet

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Great day on`t moors. 0545 till 1630.. Saw the following;
5 Grey Partridge in usual spot.
4 Green Woodpeckers(2 h)
10 Linnet
2 Blackcap
1 Chiffchaff
6 Willow warblers.
7 Wheatear (3m)
3 Red Grouse top of Red Brook
21 Golden Plover on`t border near Black Moss
1 f Ring Ouzel Red Brook. flew north towards Wet Moss
2 Kestrel
1 Peregrine soaring so high into the sky I could hardly see it.. Superb
4 Little Owl in regular spots
4 Stock Dove
2 Raven carrying food
Skylarks, Curlews and Meadow Pipits galore
4 Swallow
1 Buzzard
2 Grey Heron high over Bull Hill.

A great day.. Rob Archer





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Early morning walk up moorbottom road

Wheatear 14
Grey Partridge 2
Kestrel 2
Raven
Little Owl
Green Woodpecker 2
Lesser Redpoll 6 - 3 of whch went north
Pied wag 10 NE one of which looked like a White Wag
Linnet 6 singing males
Stock Dove 5

Reddisher Woods
Green Woodpecker 2
Nuthatch 3
Chiffchaff 6
Willow Warbler 10
Blackcap 3


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This afternoon . Shortish walk, up to the Firing Ranges and back, on the main path/road.
Willow Warbler : At least 12 seen. Most vocal.
Oh and I nearly forgot:
One very red Linnet.

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Thank you very much Rob for the info.Looking forward to exploring a new area.

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Morning Brian. Re your posting for info on walking in the Holcombe area Ian has described a couple of the best walks around the Holcombe area ,through Redisher, Moorbottom Road and up to Pilgrims Cross and back over the tops via Harcles..A great walk , as Ians says with a variety of habitat.. ( can get very busy on sunny weekends though) If you have the OS Explorer map 287 you can see that the Firing range area only covers a small section of the countryside here and that even when the flags are flying there is still loads to go at. Lots of folk avoid the Ranges even when the flags are down and it is always noticably quieter as soon as you enter the MOD Property.. West of the ranges ( and into Lancs) there are miles of brilliant footpaths towards Quarlton that you can walk all day even on weekends and see hardly a soul..(Good chance of a Buzzard around here too) Going north over the Moors (again into Lancs) towards Black Moss and Bull Hill its a proper bleak northern moorland ( I love it!) with few defined paths, but Red Grouse are in the area along with Golden Plover near Wet Moss.. If you take a look on the Rossendale Ornithologists website a couple of their birders are regularly on these moors and describe whats about and areas they go. Basically, if you have the Map and follow you nose you cant go wrong.. Its a great area.. Just depends how far you want to walk really!! Good Luck. Rob Archer

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Thanks for the reply Ian , will try and take a look up there next week. Thanx again

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good walk through redisher woods follow the path straight bit of a climb through to moor bottom road follow that right around to the other side of the valley then a path cuts back across the rifle range past the other side of reddisher woods to the start. Gives quite a few different habitats. Alternate instead of going around take the right fork at the end of moorbottom road and get onto the moors. Don't worry about the range, flags fly if you are in danger and its well marked to avoid. Times can be checked on the net for the range. cheers ian

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Hi , Could either Simon or Rob or for that matter anyone who knows this area well please give me a little information on the best walks around it.Have just moved to Bury and aswell as Elton this looks a decent birding area.Having looked on the OS maps it looks like there is a rifle range up there and didnt want to be wandering through that !!! Thanks .

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11.30 -15.30 A bit of Vis Mig at lunch time 70 Meadow Pipit , 6 Sand Martin, 10 Chaffinch & Swallowall NW. Raptors inc 3 Sperate Spahawks, 2 Kestrel 2 Buzzard Peregrine 3 Raven knocking about also On the moors well over 100 Mpipit 31 Skylark, 3 Wheatear - red brook - 2 male displaying and singing with a female. Stonechat - female - top track near the pony field Little Owl - on farm ruin near red brook Stock Dove 3 Saplin Wood Chiffchaff 2 Jay Green Woodpecker Reddisher Woods Grey Wag 2

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Morning walk on the Moors, Ranges to Red Brook. 0915to 1400. 1 f Sparrowhawk over Saplin 4 Green Woodpecker thoughout the area 3 f Wheatear 1 m Stonechat 2 Raven ( the pair with missing primaries on right wing) Peregrine over Harcles Hill Lots of Meadow Pipits/Skylark 1 Red Grouse top of Red Brook 4 Curlew above Red Brook 2 Stock Dove, Red Brook 3 Chiffchaff, Redisher Rob Archer

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Walked over first light.. Saw the following; Pair of Grey Wagtails on the Irwell, Nuttall Park 1 Swallow by Hollingrove Farm 3 Redwing 1 f Wheatear 2 Kestrel displaying 2 Green Woodpecker 4 Stock Dove 1 Little Owl 2 Chiffchaff 1 Raven 1 m Peregrine causing havoc along the hill top from Red Brook to Top o the Moor Farm. 6 Linnet back in the hillside gorse Loads of Meadow Pipits/Skylarks Pair of Goldcrest , Moorbottom Road Rob Archer

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