Presumably at some point the ancestors of Edward Sabine adopted (or Anglicised from Gaelic) the name of the Apennine tribe of Classical antiquity. Notable for their part in the legend of the founding of Rome and the story of the Rape of the Sabine Women frequently depicted in Renaissance painting and sculpture.
Edward Sabine it seems was one of those amazing polymath explorers who voyaged with Ross who in turn gave his name to Ross's Gull. There's a very nice stuffed one of those in Manchester Museum. Now what are the chances of one of those at Penny?
-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Tuesday 11th of August 2015 09:57:04 AM
It was in the early 1800's from what I've uncovered so yes, it's open to individual preference nowadays. But it was interesting to find out some of the origins though. As long as we all know what each mean when we say Sabine's, personally I think that's what matters most.
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Just a little more info. The ine (as in I'm or bine is from Italian and would be no doubt more appropriate over here. In texas, they pronounce it as sab-een, like a more American version. That's the info I've found and will explain a lot.
-- Edited by Richard Thew on Monday 10th of August 2015 01:13:48 PM
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Which bird is ideal for keeping cakes in? I asked. The answer: a Bun-tin.
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I've listened to an official recording pronunciation from a friend and it's.... Sab (sounds like "sad" but with a b) then ine (that sounds like "I'm" but with an n and with a slightly longer tone on the vocal cords - like saying yippee with a few extra e's). I hope this helps. Guess that means we can't call it sabs now. Now how do you pronounce passerines?
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Which bird is ideal for keeping cakes in? I asked. The answer: a Bun-tin.
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Now can we start the 'predatory fish are eating our vagrants' debate?
We'd better be careful how we word the "Pike eats Vagrant" headline. Some of our more right-wing gentlemen of the press may think it a spelling mistake, and see it as a solution to two of their problems in one go!
-- Edited by David Walsh on Monday 10th of August 2015 07:54:48 AM
This has been discussed before elsewhere - ive also heard it discussed (in person!) relating to Joseph Sabine (who was an early member of the Linnean Soc & gentleman naturalist).
As the gull was named after his brother, who's name I can't remember, they're pronounced in the same way.
It's SabEEn
Now can we start the 'predatory fish are eating our vagrants' debate?
I like this discussion Sid ... some would just shrug it off but I think we have got to get it right as it was named in honour of Sir Edward and his brother.
I'm just wondering if they suffered from the "Hyacinth Bucket" syndrome ? As for "Sabs" .... horror of horrors ! How dare you ! I'll go and get Ians red-hot pincers ready !
Roger.
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