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Rochdale Town Hall Peregrines


I watched the birds yesterday afternoon after doing the Manchester Peregrines in the morning. I saw both adults and three juveniles. One of the juveniles attempted to catch a woodpigeon about 10ft above my head...quite spectacular.

Images from yesterday attached. The image of the three juveniles together was made on 20th June 2017. 



-- Edited by Adrian Dancy on Monday 3rd of July 2017 11:57:19 AM

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No, Charlie, I can assure you, from the screeching and flying about this afternoon, they are definitely still there! This, in fact, is the best bit of it when they've found their wings and voices and are flying about. Recommend a visit to the town centre. Remember last time there were four I saw all six in the sky at once. Brilliant!



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It's been good to see the video coverage this year. I hope the guys in Rochdale Council's IT section  for delivering on this get a thank you for it.



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No sign of the young now it would appear that they have grown up and gone. She raised all four..........Happy ending.



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Saturday 17th 4.30-5.30pm

1 of the juveniles visible on the main ledge of the town hall, could not see the others. the adult female sat just above.



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All four sat on the ledge.



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......and now the tray is empty!!!!



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Just one left in the nest tray now. Plenty of vigorous wing flapping going on...

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Just seen another one step off the box.


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Youngster being fed on ledge just below tray by parent now



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The group involved with the monitoring and welfare of these birds has consulted with further experts in the UK on this subject and all things taken into consideration, the best course of action has been deemed to be to leave the single bird in situ.

Ivan is indeed right in that any human intervention at this point would most likely cause the remaining young to jump from the nest. A plan is underway to attempt to provide food for the single bird without disturbing the other young but its fate seems perhaps tenuous at the moment.



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I think you will find any intervention may cause more problems. Any human approach to the nest will result in the other chicks jumping from the tray , They then will probably fall to the ground and may be injured. As sad as it seems it is best left to its own devices - it may be fed by the adults or indeed may well die.

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Please intervene to save this precious chick!

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Its definitely not getting fed, witnessed it twice today  cry



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> Hazel, please see my comment below as the situation is being monitored by the relevant and correct group involved who will act accordingly as, when and if necessary.


thank you Ian

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Hazel Rothwell wrote:

Just wondered if this can be flagged up to someone who can assist with the Rochdale Peregrine Falcon chick that fell out of the nest this morning; here is a link showing the stranded chick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NjYAlbvy_V8
I have looked for help links and failed so hope you don't mind me posting here. Update: via RSPB forum: .........."RSPB have been contacted and will be onsite as soon as possible, but likely to be tomorrow morning to assess the situation"

-- Edited by Hazel Rothwell on Sunday 11th of June 2017 06:01:03 PM

-- Edited by Hazel Rothwell on Sunday 11th of June 2017 06:01:18 PM


 Hazel, please see my comment below as the situation is being monitored by the relevant and correct group involved who will act accordingly as, when and if necessary.



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Just wondered if this can be flagged up to someone who can assist with the Rochdale Peregrine Falcon chick that fell out of the nest this morning; here is a link showing the stranded chick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NjYAlbvy_V8
I have looked for help links and failed so hope you don't mind me posting here. Update: via RSPB forum: .........."RSPB have been contacted and will be onsite as soon as possible, but likely to be tomorrow morning to assess the situation"

-- Edited by Hazel Rothwell on Sunday 11th of June 2017 06:01:03 PM

-- Edited by Hazel Rothwell on Sunday 11th of June 2017 06:01:18 PM

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dave broome wrote:

The smallest chick fell from nest at 09:40 and is a ledge below, info thanks to Neil Tasker


 The balcony is netted so the chick cannot fall off the ledge and the group who supply the box and ring the young are aware of it and are monitoring it to make sure the parents feed it.



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The smallest chick fell from nest at 09:40 and is a ledge below, info thanks to Neil Tasker



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fredford wrote:

Good news all round!
How do we get on the webcam, please?


 Scroll down a few posts to the 14th May for an answer Fred.



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Good news all round!
How do we get on the webcam, please?

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Please see the following for information from the Rochdale Borough Council website on the naming of the Peregrine chicks:

Name the falcon chicks competition

For a chance to win afternoon tea for two at the Clock Tower Dining Room, and a short tour of Rochdale Town Hall, just send us your suggested names for the chicks along with your name and postcode.

Send your answers, giving your name and postcode, using any of the following ways:

Entry is open to residents of the UK except employees and members of Rochdale Borough Council. The competition closes on Monday, 29 May 2017 at 12midnight. 

Read the full terms and conditions for the competition



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Went up the clock tower to ring and colour ring the chicks in the tray this evening.  4 fit and healthy young ones in there, which although still smallish were sexed almost certainly as 2 Males and 2 Females. There was concern in the Town Hall foyer on arrival that there was a small and unwell chick that wasn't getting fed but on inspection the chick is ft and healthy and all chicks had big crops full of food.

Again a big thank you to Rochdale Council for allowing our access and for providing the webcam for everyone to enjoy watching them on.



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Thanks, Ivan, managed to catch it yesterday. Great to watch.



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I meant it's nothing unusual.

-- Edited by Ivan Ellison on Sunday 14th of May 2017 04:59:23 PM

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Ivan I disagree....it is special..... it gives the opportunity to watch the progression of the species in a non intrusive manner, and is very interesting.blankstare   



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Robin. It's nothing special. The male usually brings the prey in and female takes it from him, sometimes the male will feed them while the female has a fly around. The prey is ripped into small pieces and the young get fed, the strongest first and the weakest last.

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Use this link scroll to the monitor and start it. To go full page click the small white square bottom left corner.

 

http://www.rochdale.gov.uk/falcons



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How do we get on the monitor?

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Missed those last two occasions, Ivan, and new to watching newly hatched chicks. How does the female feed them?



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All four now hatched, just been fed x female.

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At this moment one parent feeding the three chicks in full view.



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No 3 hatched :)

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Its encouraging to hear that at least 1 site is hatching this late.

I have been monitoring a pair on a London towerblock near where I live and the birds are still incubating. Don't know the date that the eggs were laid, but suspect that they are already past the window for hatching. :(

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2nd hatching this morning.

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Adrian Dancy wrote:

It appears first chick has hatched. I have not seen it yet but the egg shell remains are clearly visible on the monitor at the moment.


 Just seen the first chickbiggrin - three more eggs to hatch.



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It appears first chick has hatched. I have not seen it yet but the egg shell remains are clearly visible on the monitor at the moment.

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4th egg just been laid. :)

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Google Rochdale peregrines or use this link http://www.rochdale.gov.uk/falcons



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Please instruct us how to get on the camera.

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Now 3 eggs.

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Robin , they can't make an egg that quickly. The egg forms inside the bird with a soft rubbery shell, when about to lay this hardens up and is laid as a complete egg. The birds will copulate until the clutch is laid fully.

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Just one more thing. I'm assuming they couldn;'t make the egg in an hour and a quarter, so was there any connection between copulation and laying?



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Thanks very much, Adrian, for your information. This is very much a learning curve which I am thoroughly enjoying.



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A second egg has now been laid:)

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Egg number two just been laid approx. 1330 hrs

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The birds copulated on camera at 12.13 pm. They are not camera shy.



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Robin, unlikely to stick at one egg , unless something has gone wrong with bird or at another attempted nest site. Usual clutch is 4 but can be between 2 and 5 - very rarely 6. The bird will cover the eggs just to stop them chilling or overheating. Will start to incubate when clutch is complete so they all hatch out roughly the same time- maybe 24/36 hrs between the first and last. Owls however start to incubate after first egg laid so that they deliberately hatch at different times. This means different sizes of youngsters and in event of low food counts/availability the eldest will out-compete the youngest until they die and they then get eaten by their siblings. Falcons are generally not put out by bad weather so can continue to catch food for their youngsters throughout. Nature can be cruel sometimes. Some other great cctv of peregrines can be seen at Nottingham, Norwich and Bath- amongst others, All these 3 sites are sitting already and you will see hatchings before the Rochdale pair.

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Not very au fait with things like this; is it likely to stick at one egg now? She seems to be incubating again and did all night.



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Not sure Sid, it is a very pale egg, they are often a lot darker brown than this. Fingers crossed all is well.

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