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RE: Roman Lakes, Marple


A last thrash round Stockport Borough turned up a couple of surprises (but no new birds cry.gif)

En route to Roman Lakes there were 5 Goosander (4m, 1f) on the canal basin at Lockside, Marple.

Roman Lakes, Main Lake:
There was only a minute area of open water, which held 2 Black-headed Gulls, 2 Coot and a male Goldeneye. Quite a turn up for this site.
Also 31 Coot
7 Moorhens
29 Mallard
3 Bullfinches
2 Wrens
2 Jays
4 Great Tits
2 Blue Tits

This was the sum total of all passerines seen. No Thrushes, Robins, Finches no.gif

Cheers, John


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Roman Lakes


26 December (09.15 - 11.00)

Roman Lakes and Mellor Golf Course

Main Lake: Only a tiny circle of water free from ice and numbers were well down:
No Swans
Only 24 Coot
Only 2 Moorhens
48 Mallard
2 Cormorants (river)

Mellor Golf Course:
1 GS Woodpecker
18 Blackbirds
2 Mistle Thrushes
5 Lesser Redpolls
c20 Fieldfare
5 Jays
5 Wrens
4 Bullfinches
12 LT Tits
c35 LBB Gulls over

Cheers, John


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Roman Lakes, Marple


7 December (09.20 - 12.45)

Roman Lakes/ Mellor Golf Course/Linnet Clough/Bottoms Reservoir.

54 Coot (Main Lake)
42 Mallard (Main L)
3 Swans (Main L)
Dipper on river
Female Goosander (river)
3 Treecreepers
2 Woodcock (golf course)
1 Lesser Redpoll

31 Species.

Cheers, John

-- Edited by John Rayner on Tuesday 7th of December 2010 05:59:42 PM

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Just a word of warning, I got my car stuck here this morning. The very top part of Lakes Road is gritted which lures you on further - straight onto packed ice. No joke down a single track 1 in 6 hill, with a steep drop on one side and drystone wall on the other, and no chance of reversing. I somehow managed to slither down to Bottom's Bridge where another 3 cars had already been abandonded plus a lorry driver who said his lorry had been stuck at the nearby farm for 3 days. I was very lucky that a local farmer put some grit down whilst I was there and after another 1.5 hours I managed to drive out.

Put me right off birding here but I did have a quick look over Main Lake and it only held the usual.

Cheers, John

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27th Nov

Main Lake almost completely iced over.

85 Coot
17 Moorhens
66 Mallard
55 Canadas
3 Mute Swans
1 Peacock on the ice

A marked lack of passerines. No thrushes, no finches not even any tit flocks.

Cheers, John

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24th Nov:

Main Lake:
7 Cormorants
68 Coot
9 Moorhens
55 Mallard
17 BH Gulls
3 Mute Swans
1 Little Grebe

Cheers, John

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22 November - very steady yawn.gif

North Lake:
1 Cormorant
2 Mallard

Main Lake:
27 Mallard
63 Coot
2 Cormorants
1 Grey Heron
3 Tufted Duck (1m, 2f)
11 BH Gulls
3 Mute Swans

Cheers, John

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Is that some kind of cheese related festival?



Quite a Gouda joke Rob, but pity you couldn't think of anything Feta.

Salut, John




I think you came out best on that one, John, but then I'm Parmesan



This thread is not very mature!




That's just hard cheese, Riggers



These cheese puns are really grating on me now!


Me too Rob. It's just a curd to me that I camembert any more of them. ohmygod.gif




Quel fromage, John!
Methinks the whey this is going we should get back on topic on this thred lest, er, we fall foul of the big cheese himself




I will have to think caerphilly about a reply to this one!!

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Time to resume normal service i.e. coot counting.

Main Lake only (not surrounding strips of water):

44 Coot
16 Mallard
5 Moorhens
9 BH Gulls
3 Mute Swans
4 Tufted Duck (2m, 2f - new in)
Kingfisher heard

Cheers, John

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John Rayner wrote:

Rob Thorpe wrote:

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Is that some kind of cheese related festival?



Quite a Gouda joke Rob, but pity you couldn't think of anything Feta.

Salut, John




I think you came out best on that one, John, but then I'm Parmesan



This thread is not very mature!




That's just hard cheese, Riggers



These cheese puns are really grating on me now!


Me too Rob. It's just a curd to me that I camembert any more of them. ohmygod.gif




Quel fromage, John!
Methinks the whey this is going we should get back on topic on this thred lest, er, we fall foul of the big cheese himself

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Rob Thorpe wrote:

Mike Chorley wrote:

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Mike Chorley wrote:

John Rayner wrote:

Rob Thorpe wrote:


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Is that some kind of cheese related festival?



Quite a Gouda joke Rob, but pity you couldn't think of anything Feta.

Salut, John




I think you came out best on that one, John, but then I'm Parmesan



This thread is not very mature!




That's just hard cheese, Riggers



These cheese puns are really grating on me now!


Me too Rob. It's just a curd to me that I camembert any more of them. ohmygod.gif

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Mike Chorley wrote:

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Is that some kind of cheese related festival?



Quite a Gouda joke Rob, but pity you couldn't think of anything Feta.

Salut, John




I think you came out best on that one, John, but then I'm Parmesan



This thread is not very mature!




That's just hard cheese, Riggers



These cheese puns are really grating on me now!

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Mark Rigby wrote:

Mike Chorley wrote:

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Is that some kind of cheese related festival?



Quite a Gouda joke Rob, but pity you couldn't think of anything Feta.

Salut, John




I think you came out best on that one, John, but then I'm Parmesan



This thread is not very mature!




That's just hard cheese, Riggers

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Is that some kind of cheese related festival?



Quite a Gouda joke Rob, but pity you couldn't think of anything Feta.

Salut, John




I think you came out best on that one, John, but then I'm Parmesan



This thread is not very mature!

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John Rayner wrote:

Rob Thorpe wrote:


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Is that some kind of cheese related festival?



Quite a Gouda joke Rob, but pity you couldn't think of anything Feta.

Salut, John




I think you came out best on that one, John, but then I'm Parmesan

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Is that some kind of cheese related festival?



Quite a Gouda joke Rob, but pity you couldn't think of anything Feta.

Salut, John

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Briefest of scans over main lake.

Nothing new in, no Teal today and Little Grebe not seen.

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Glad to hear the Kingfisher is still about, haven't seen it for ages.
Had a quick wander around yesterday, but apart from a flock of Longtailed Tits, there wasn't much to report.

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North Lake:
1 Cormorant

Main Lake:
1 Little Grebe (not been seen for a while)
1 Teal (new in)
1 Kingfisher (perched nicely)
+ usuals

Bottoms Res:
42 Mallard (where a more usual count is 0 - 5)

Cheers, John

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A quick visit. Wildfowl numbers down to normal again. Kingfisher perched at Main Lake.

Cheers, John



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09.30 - 10.15: A noticeable increase in waterfowl.

Main Lake:
84 Canada Geese
71 Coot
17 Moorhen
53 Mallard
1 Little Grebe
2 Tufted Duck (new in)
3 Mute Swans (1 imm)
2 Cormorants
14 BH Gulls

North Lake:
2 Canada Geese
1 Cormorant
1 Moorhen
4 Mallard

Cheers, John





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1 November (11.00 - 13.15)

Roman Lakes/ Mellor Golf Course/Linnet Clough/Bottoms Reservoir. A circular walk counting every bird.

Highlights were 1 Green Woodpecker, a flock of c55 Lesser Redpoll, 1 Goosander. Other counts were:

Jackdaw 106
Carrion Crow 28
Magpie 9
Jay 6
Coot 61
Moorhen 17
Canada Goose 21
Mallard 29
Mute Swan 3
Cormorant 2
Black-headed Gull 9
Wood Pigeon 21
Starling 26
Pheasant 1
Wren 7
Robin 16
Nuthatch 3
Blue Tit 22
Great Tit 10
Coal Tit 3
Long-tailed Tit 9
Blackbird 12
Mistle Thrush 5
Grey Wagtail 1
Pied Wagtail 2
Sparrowhawk 1
Bullfinch 8
Chaffinch 1
Goldfinch 5
Dunnock 1

33 species, 502 individuals.

Cheers, John




-- Edited by John Rayner on Monday 1st of November 2010 05:02:28 PM

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30th Oct.

Much the same as usual:

73 Coot (high count)
Little Grebe (new in)

Cheers, John

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24th Oct:

3 Wigeon
2 Goosander (River)
11 Redwing + 1 Fieldfare
+ usual.

Cheers, John

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22nd Oct

Main Lake:
53 Coot
1 Great-crested Grebe (new in)
2 Wigeon (now seem to be resident)
21 Canada Geese

North Lake:
1 Cormorant

Cheers, John

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18th Oct

Main Lake:
54 Coot
1 drake Teal (new in)
1 Wigeon

North Lake:
1 Canada Goose was the only water bird around cry.gif

Cheers, John

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Main Lake 08.30 - 09.30.

Not a lot to report. 4 Cormorants perched on the dead tree on the island. Coot numbers are up at 68 yawn.gif and a single Wigeon remains.

Cheers, John

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I made enquiries to the Cheshire Swan Study Group regarding the resident Mute Swan at Roman Lakes wearing a green darvic ring, CV38.

A condensed history:

29/10/07. Ringed as a female cygnet at Acre Dell Pools, Somerford

2008: Visited Lower Moss Wood and Nantwich.

2009: Visited Roman Lakes (07/03/2009) before travelling back to Acre Dell Pools (05/07/2009)

Presumably then travelled the 25k back to Roman Lakes and found a mate this year. Hatched 3 cygnets in 2010 one of which still survives.

Cheers, John

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7th Oct 10.15 - 12.30

North Lake:
1 Grey Heron
3 Mallard
1 Moorhen

Main Lake:
1 Wigeon
9 Mallard
3 Mute Swan
49 Coot
19 Moorhen
58 Canada Goose

Bottoms Bridge to Roman Bridge:
19 Robins (recent influx)
3 Nuthatch
2 Chaffinch
1 Pied Wagtail
7 Goldfinch
19 Blue Tit
10 Great Tit
41 Long-tailed Tit
3 Blackbird
4 Dunnock
7 Wren
7 Jay
c15 Carrion Crow
26 Jackdaw
8 Magpie
1 Great Spotted Woodpecker

Cheers, John




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5th Oct 9.30 - 12.00

Main Lake:
3 Wigeon again
46 Coot
5 Moorhens
3 Mute Swans

Bottoms Res:
2 Buzzards
3 Bullfinches
4 Jays
23 Goldfinches
1 Goldcrest

Elsewhere:
4 Nuthatch in territorial dispute (Linnet Clough)
Green Woodpecker (near Windybottom Farm)

(Presumed Brown Trout trying to leap up a raging 8 foot weir).

Cheers, John



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Nothing much changed except a new temporary flood in the horse fields opposite Main Lake held 67 Canada Geese and 35 Mallard.

2 Wigeon on Main Lake.

Cheers, John

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3rd Oct. Main Lake:

Now 3 Wigeon
1 bedraggled Buzzard through
1 Cormorant
+ the usual.

Cheers, John



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2nd Oct

Canoes out on North Lake and loads of anglers on Main lake. Not surprisingly all the birds have cleared off, apart from 32 Coot and 3 Swans.

Cheers, John

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2 Wigeon again on Main Lake (absent yesterday).

Also this morning (in driving rain):

2 Cormorants
37 Coot
5 Moorhen
9 BH Gulls
3 Mute Swans
Great Spot perched atop dead tree on island.



2nd visit this evening after the downpour. Additions were:

1 Sparrowhawk
Green Woodpecker heard
1370 Jackdaws flying west

Cheers, John

-- Edited by John Rayner on Friday 1st of October 2010 07:23:47 PM

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Fired with that 'anything-can-turn-up-anywhere' enthusiasm following an early morning visit to Moses Gate CP (57 Swans, 3 Teal, 1 Wigeon as well as the Gannet) I visited Roman Lakes, which is a similar sized patch of water, although heavily disturbed as it is mainly used as a fishing pool.

Main Lake:
Amazed to find 7 Teal and 2 WIGEON. (This is only the 2nd sighting of Wigeon in Stockport Borough this year following a pair at Reddish vale in February).
Usual numbers of Coot and Moorhen plus 1 Cormorant.

North Lake:
Usually dead but 2 Teal, 5 Moorhens and 1 Heron

Worth a second soaking of the day.

Cheers, John





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North Lake:

3 Mallard
2 Moorhens

Main Lake:

56 Coot
28 Mallard
12 Moorhen
1 Grey Heron
Mute Swans (2 ad, 1 juv) resting on the bank. Confirms the one with the green darvic CV38 is still in residence.

General Area:

4 Nuthatches
5 Jays
4 Wrens
1 Mistle Thrush
1 Goldcrest
A largish Tit flock (c25-30) with a Chiffchaff expending much energy chasing Blue Tits and Wrens out of its feeding territory.

Cheers, John


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Highlights - there were none cry.gif

Main Lake:
49 Coot
15 Moorhen
21 Mallard
1 Grey Heron
3 Mute Swan (inc 1 fully grown juv)
2 Jay

North Lake:
1 Moorhen
1 Grey Heron
1 Chiffchaff

No other warblers and no hirundines anywhere

Cheers, John

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A 2 hour walk in the rain - 25 species

Great spotted Woodpecker 2
Nuthatch 1
House Martin 37
Swallow 7
Blackcap 3
Chiffchaff 8
Kingfisher 1
Mute Swan 3 (2ad, 1 juv)

Cheers, John

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Main Lake:
Many young Coot and Moorhens with 1 adult Coot building a new nest.
1 Juv GC Grebe but adults not seen
Pair of Mute Swans now have just 1 cygnet
2 GS woodpeckers
Nuthatch and Jay
Juvenile Wrens, LT Tits, Robins and Chiffchaffs

Bottoms Reservoir:
Very quiet - only 3 Mallard and a calling Blackcap.

Bottoms Hall:
2 Willow Warblers
Kingfisher
Pair Blackcaps with 4 juvs
1 juv Bullfinch
6 Goldfinch + 1 juv
Just 4 Swallows (and no other hirundines)

North Lake:
1 Moorhen only. I don't understand why this well vegetated pool is so unattractive to wildfowl, unlike the busy Main Lake, which is swarming with visitors and fishermen. It looks ideal for a Garganey or some such so I'll keep looking smile.gif

Cheers, John









-- Edited by John Rayner on Wednesday 4th of August 2010 03:21:32 PM

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Hi,
I suspect this is a problem with specimen anglers using heavy gauge nylon line.
Brenda and I are Carp fishers of 20 years, so whenever we become a concern with the local birdlife we back- lead the lines, pinning them down to the lake bed. Perhaps the owner of the lake could make this a prerequisite for lines over 3 lb breaking strain. Un fortunately breaks happen now and again, usually due to poor knots, ergo lack of experience!!. The use of safety clips etc., will reduce the likelyhood of birds getting caught up in any loose line.
Hope this helps,
Brenda and Paul Owen.

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In my many years of dealing with swans I have come across line around both Darvics and metal rings.

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it's not only discarded line, but line attached to rods which catches on the rings as the swans swim through the line, in the vast majority of cases this results in a broken line and a swan entangled in what has now become "discarded" line.

not a situation that any decent angler will want to encounter but one which nevertheless happens, though not with unringed birds and even so extremely infrequently with ringed ones. i have seen it happen 4 times in 35 years as an angler.
the more freequent ocurrence is that a bird will find an anglers bait more before the fish do and eat it, this has happened to me personaly about 6 times(not all swan). fortunately in all but one case i managed to land the bird and retrieve the hook, on one occasion only by my angling partner wading chest deep into a lake, the swan demonstrated it's appreciation of being saved from being tethered by turning round and biting him on the nose. biggrin.gif

so i can understand the desire to consider the safety of the birds over the desire to put rings on them..





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10 years? Surely much less? The last cygnets all died close together in time when more or less fully grown. In the past the owner Bernard has usually been very cooperative wrt to Swans, but I suspect he relies on his day ticket revenue from anglers. Most ponds in Stockport are heavily fished and Swans in particular are very unwelcome with anglers to such an extent that we have had persecution of several pairs at other locations to my knowledge.
Is there a problem anywhere else with discarded tackle catching on rings, or is this a case of confusion between causes?

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Last time they bred there (which is over 10 yrs ago I think) I seem to remember lead poisoning was a problem, as well as line.

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21st June

Good news - the pair of Swans are tending 3 cygnets. Also 2 very vocal juv Great-crested Grebes and many young Coots and Moorhens. Grey Wagtail at Bottom's Bridge.

Earlier this year I was asked by NW Swan Study Group if I could approach the owner for permission to ring the cygnets and I did this today. He was surprisingly anti with the argument that they "are always having to get a boat out to rescue birds that get the rings tangled up in fishing line".

I did consider asking how many unringed birds were snagged, as only a very small proportion of birds would be ringed, but realised it wasn't worth pursuing the matter. (Sorry Steve cry.gif)

Cheers, John

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But you have to add on the number of eggs x 2, John (as they only lay every other day) so you could add 12 days for 6 eggs. Incubation won't begin till the last egg as they hatch synchronously (or more or less)

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The Mute Swan is still sitting. As the normal incubation period is 35/36 days and I first recorded her sitting on 20th April it is likely these eggs are infertile.

Cheers, John

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went to roman lakes today not expecting too much from the reports on here.

by the time i'd got the camera out the boot we'd seen 3 buzards.
2sparrowhawks and a peregrine in a full stoop dive.

gc greebes with2 well grown young
plenty of coot
canadas with goslings at least 10 young some well grown on.
2 tree creepers plus one later sighting but may have been one of the previous 2.
and a diper on the river.

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Main Lake:

Mute Swan still sitting
Total of 9 Coot chicks
G C Grebes have 2 young which are getting on well, almost 1/2 adult size now.
2 Buzzards

Bottoms Res:

Chiffchaff feeding at least 2 fully fledged young
1 Garden Warbler singing


Cheers, John



-- Edited by John Rayner on Wednesday 19th of May 2010 03:13:53 PM

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