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RE: Greenfield


If you look on Google Maps for White Brook Lane, you'll see the ruined building if you zoom in, and a grid of fields which are separated by dry stone walls. They have been in the furthest two fields east and on the slopes behind. I walked up the hill from Tunstead Lane up a footpath. 20 or so mins from the roundabout at the bottom of Holmfirth Road to looking at the birds.

Parking I don't know, don't drive, sorry...somewhere in the village maybe.

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Hi all,

As someone who doesn't know the area well, how do you get to the area where the Ring Ouzels are currently being seen (and where is the best place to park)?

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Andrew

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5-7pm
23 Ring Ouzel seen in fields around the derelict barn just below Pots & Pans. There were probably more, but they were moving about quite a bit and kept disappearing behind walls.
They were flushed on a couple of occasions and moved off en-masse. 3 more birds (2m, 1f) seen from the top of the hill in the burnt section.
Also -
20+ Wheatear (very vocal)
2 Buzzard
2 Dipper on the stream below the reservoir


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Is Know Top Lane below Pots and Pans a good place to view
the Ring Ouzels.
Thankyou

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12.30 28 Ring Ouzel still present spread out in fields beyond the ruined barn and counted right past us as they were flushed by two walkers coming straight up the fields where they were all feeding. They flew round and up the hill towards the war memorial

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Sunday 19th of April 2015 11:53:15 AM

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Sunday 19th of April 2015 03:24:47 PM

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18+ Ring Ouzel at 'Pots and Pans' this morning flushed onto burnt area by a Peregrine (per M Chorley)

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I was trying to be clever this morning, and I headed for Dove Stones via Intake Lane imagining a Ring Ouzel or two might have crossed the valley overnight. Looking across at the slope below Pots and Pans at about 9am I was clearly wrong, as I saw a birder watching something in the fields where Mark Rigby had reported the birds yesterday.

I did see some Lesser Redpoll in the conifers, at least 3, which were displaying I think. Lots of circuits of the trees and calling. Great to watch and listen to anyway.

Nothing much in the environs of the reservoirs.

Walking back into Greenfield I saw a Dipper at the weir at the roundabout, and then I decided to try for the Ouzels up where I'd seen the birder before. This was a great decision if I say so myself. I soon picked up birds in the fields which they had presumably occupied all day; it was about 2pm by now.

Anyway I think there were 10 or so birds about, males and females. The most I had pinned down simultaneously was 8 but there were probably more. Showing well feeding, also lots of nice views as they flew about, perched on rocks and generally busied about. Brilliant stuff, it was really nice up there, some great views back down the valley too. John Spalding turned up too, nice to chat to him.

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A grey and a pied wagtail at Ladhill Lane bridge at lunchtime today - from a distance I expected it to be a pair of greys as they were close together in the same tree.

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Pota and Pans (with Gary Crowder)

Ring Ouzels 15 (Possibly more).
Wheatears 5-6.
Raven 1.
Rook 1.
+ Meadow Pipits, Linnets, Pied Wagtails.

Cheers John

-- Edited by John Rayner on Saturday 18th of April 2015 03:05:30 PM

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'Pots and Pans' area

12 Ring Ouzel (6 male/6 fem) in fields below Pots and Pans near ruined barn (13 present earlier per B.Stanley)
30+ Wheatear
Meadow Pipits
2 Mistle Thrush
2 Swallow

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A walk around the sewage works, about 20 swallows, chiffchaff, a few willow warbler, blackcap, 2 dipper, grey wagtail, treecreeper, nuthatch,
bullfinch plus the usual.

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Just over the border from Mossley, the area opposite Wrights Mill had singing Willow Warbler, Chiffchaff and Blackcap. Also a Jay making all sorts of strange sounds and a Kingfisher fly past.

Then a lifer as I spotted the mythical John Spalding! I've heard about this rare beast for years and exchanged messages via this forum but never, until this morning, clapped eyes on him. ID was easy as he was in typical helmeted plumage and perched upon two wheels! Good to meet up at last.

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Morning (post eclipse) walk around the moorland edge.

Woodcock flew off from bracken at Warlow Clough, heading towards Dove Stone.
Plenty of Red Grouse much lower down the moor than usual - maybe the result of a fire (apparently under control) on the slopes of Alphin Pike.
A fair number of Lapwing displaying in the fields - but not half as many as there used to be round here.

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Ventured out after the rain, sleet and snow had abated.

Not a good day for Dippers - all their favourite perching stones under water due to high river levels. Two Grey Wagtails.
Now at least 9 occupied nests in the heronry and 3 Rook nests being built/renovated near the King Bill PH.
3 pairs Tufted Duck the only new additions at Royal George lodge.
Pink-footed Goose now back in Greenfield.

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March's WeBS counts (dreary drizzle)

Waterside Mill (Tanner's) Lodge: pair Oystercatcher (site first)

Royal George Lodge:

pair Oystercatcher (site first - probably the same pair as at Tanner's)
Mallard: 15
Canada Geese: 43
Moorhen: 8
Coot: 1
Little Grebe: 1
Black-headed Gulls: 19
Common Gull: 1

+ the introduced birds: Mute Swan: 2, Wood Ducks: 4

Pair of Dipper gathering moss on riverbank.


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Another tour round the valley with more sleet and hail showers:

ETW: 5 male & 1 redhead Goosanders on river. Heronry not yet in full swing but at least 3 nests definitely occupied.

Confluence of Tame and Chew Brook: Cormorant, pair Grey Wagtails (one with metal ring), Dipper (unringed)

Royal George Lodge: Little Grebe, pair Tufted Duck. 15 Moorhen and 202 Canada Geese in Well-i-hole Farm fields (Pinkfoot has decamped to Mossley).



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Pleasant stroll between the sleet and hail showers:

Pink-footed Goose with Canadas in field where John Spalding noted it a month ago. Not limping as badly as when I first saw it. Reports from Elton that their Pinkfoot was present this morning mean that it's not the same bird (I had wondered...). 9 Moorhen in the same field but the Water Rail hasn't returned this winter.

Singing Dipper with metal ring at Wrights Mill on the Tame.

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February's WeBS counts (minus 4C and foggy!)

Royal George Lodge (c60% frozen)

Mallard: 40
Canada Geese: 23
Moorhen: 7
Little Grebe: 1
Black-headed Gulls: 62
Common Gull: 1
Heron: 1

+ the introduced birds: Mute Swan: 2, Wood Ducks: 4


Waterside Mill (Tanner's) Lodge (completely frozen)

No water birds. One drumming Gt. Spotted Woodpecker had his territory invaded by two others and a noisy scrap ensued.
If visiting, beware the very aggressive rams in the field by the lodge!

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Late afternoon walk yesterday to see if Herons had started building nests - they hadn't.

However I did discover a magpie roost in trees between the old railway bridleway and Well-i-hole Farm fields. When I left there were at least 49 birds in two adjacent trees, many perched in pairs like Jackdaws.

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A walk between 11 and 12. There was a Pink Footed Goose amongst the Canadas in the field behind the Royal George Lodge.
Also a couple of Dippers on the river by the sewage works.

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January's snowy WeBS counts

Royal George Lodge (c10% frozen)

Mallard: 26
Canada Geese: 70
Moorhen: 8
Little Grebe: 1
Black-headed Gulls: 142 (a WeBS count record for this site)
Common Gull: 1

+ the introduced birds: Mute Swan: 2, Wood Ducks: 4

also one Dipper (unringed) on the river

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Couple of puzzling goose sightings this morning:

First, in the fields by the Manns, there was a grey goose amongst the flock of 150+ Canadas. Almost certainly a Pink-foot (though I couldn't get a really decent view) it was walking with a limp. I had seen a grey goose flying with two Canadas on Dec 27th nearby but in very poor light. I presume this would have been the same bird. Has anyone else noticed this bird?

Second, as I walked back to Mossley along the towpath there was one Canada Goose by itself (which is unusual anyway) on the canal just inside the Greenfield border. It was definitely smaller than your average Canada (though there were no others to compare with it) and something about it didn't seem right. Its neck feathers were permanently raised and it swam back and forth as though it was frightened by something, though it never made any attempt to fly. Only managed one rubbish photo before my memory card was full cry

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2 Rough-legged Buzzard relocated at 'Pots and Pans' viewable from Tunstead Lane on moorland East of the Obelisk at 1330hrs (info A.Platt)

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December WeBS counts

Tanner's Lodge: absolutely no waterbirds (but no anglers to blame this time) though c40 Fieldfare over.

Royal George Lodge:
4 WOOD DUCKS - 2 females by Manns cottages, 2 males on the main lodge.
(can only presume these have introduced by the same person who brought the swans - what next? Flamingos no

Mute Swan: 2
Mallard: 17
Canada Geese: 60
Moorhen: 11
Coot: 1
Little Grebe: 2
Black-headed Gulls: 54

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Back to the routine WeBS counts after all last week's excitement...

Tanner's Lodge: only one waterbird - a Moorhen, but Red Grouse very vocal on the nearby moor and a male Gt. Spotted Woodpecker in a pondside willow.

Royal George Lodge:

Coots have now all gone but the wintering Little Grebes are back.

65 Canada Geese
26 Mallard
10 Moorhen
2 Little Grebe
2 Tufted Duck
2 Mute Swan (usual "Polish" introduced birds)
41 Black-headed Gulls
1 Heron

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Mark Rigby wrote:

JamieDunning wrote:


They're almost annual over the moor there!





Almost annual Jamie? 2011 was first record since the Uppermill bird in 1990. disbelief



We'd had reports at Dove Stone from 2010 (2-3 independent on the Isle of skye road from Holmefirth) and (If I remember correctly) from 2009, on the Crowden side.
Didn't see either myself and can't vouch for their authenticity. I guess they need to have been seen by someone using a website like this one and reporting their birds somewhere. It's the problem with an area as under watched as the saddleworth moors - I'm only speaking anecdotally.



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Further sightings/updates of the Rough-legged Buzzards are now on the Dove Stone thread.

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Hope you get this one without getting hypothermia mate like we did sat all day on the moor without success for the Lees Hill bird. I'm working tomorrow so will hope for Sunday...
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Wouldn't worry to much about hypothermia Tim ........... there will be plenty of cardiovascular body warmth from the exhilarating walk up from Binn Green. biggrinbiggrin

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Brian, they covered quite a distance over a huge area and probably could have been viewable from binn green but to get a better vantage point your better walking up the hill to over look more of the moorland

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brian fielding wrote:

cheers mark, how far is it aprox from binn green car park, did you view the birds from the tarmac pull in, thanks, brian.





Hope you get this one without getting hypothermia mate like we did sat all day on the moor without success for the Lees Hill bird. I'm working tomorrow so will hope for Sunday...

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Cheers Steve. Sorted the Grouse a few weeks ago but ta anyway.

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That's the one Craig. Don't take the first right (signposted Dove Stone) but carry on up the hill and it's the next turn on the right that isn't a private road. Don't worry you can't miss it.

If you didn't get Red Grouse up on Horwich Moors you'll get plenty up here smile

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Never been to Binn Green. Presume that's the Car Park on Holmfirth Road?

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JamieDunning wrote:


They're almost annual over the moor there!





Almost annual Jamie? 2011 was first record since the Uppermill bird in 1990. disbelief

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As well as the two juv Rough-legged Buzzard also saw c20 Fieldfares flying low over and seeming to landed in the heather (as Mark said vis mig ), one Peregrine seen to mob one of the RLBuzzards, one Common Buzzard, four Ravens and plenty of Red Grouse

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cheers mark, how far is it aprox from binn green car park, did you view the birds from the tarmac pull in, thanks, brian.

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Incredibly, as I arrived I immedistley picked up the Rough-legged Buzzard hanging in the wind. I jumped out of the car when my son shouted "there's a Kestrel above it". Raising my bins in utter disbelief, another Rough-legged Buzzard was hovering about 50 meters above the first. Both juveniles, one with very clean underparts.

Knowing Gary Crowder was on Featherbed Moss and having no phone signal, I drove up to get him. We soon located a single bird and watched it until 1630hrs when light began to fade. I would think there is a good chance the birds will be present tomorrow.

The parking will be very tricky. Best bet is to park in Binn Green car park and walk up the road and view from there. Higher up the road there is no footpath and the road is very busy. There is a small red Tarmac pull in for a couple of cars on the right hand side.

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Parking suggestions would be good too please!

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could someone please post directions, best place to look etc, will have a look asap tomorrow, thanks, brian.

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Rough-legged Buzzard on Featherbed Moss at 15:20 today.

Info thanks to Gary Crowder via Mark Rigby

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Nice one Steve, They're almost annual over the moor there!

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ROUGH-LEGGED BUZZARD

Walking along Moor Edge Road from Mossley to Greenfield this morning I was descending the path to Warlow Brook when a large bird of prey flew down from the moor. As it passed in front of me I said to myself "Buzzard" but as it flew below me and banked over I could see the tail was white with a dark tip. It was only a five second view before it disappeared behind the shoulder of the hill, but surely it was a Rough-legged? I retraced my steps to get a better view down the valley but it had gone.

Continued the walk and above Tanners Mill another Buzzard appeared high in the sky. I got my bins on it but it was just a silhouette and then a Peregrine cruised into view and the Buzzard disappeared quickly.

I returned along the same route, and as I was approaching White Lee Farm along Intake Lane, the first Buzzard reappeared descending from the moor again right in front of me. This time I had a longer view and got the bird in my bins. The tail was very white and the tip black. Upper body and wings were mainly dark brown with some feathers looking silvery grey in the bright sunshine. The bird rose briefly to give a view of the underwing pattern. Apart from the dark primary tips it seemed very pale apart from the carpal patches which were very dark - much more contrasting than any Common Buzzard.

The bird continued to fly down low over Greenfield village where I lost sight of it.

Checking my field guides, the tail pattern would suggest it was a juvenile.

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Liz Headon wrote:

I'm surprised at the numbers on Royal George Lodge. On Thursday morning (before 8.00 am) it was totally deserted, as was Manns. There were a few geese and gulls in the field near Manns, but nothing on the water in either location.





The "Royal George Lodge" site includes the Manns pond and adjacent field for the purposes of the WeBS counts. However, all the Canadas were actually on the lodge yesterday, as were the swans, the Coot and half the Mallards. I've been doing counts here at the same time of day, for the best part of 20 years and there seems no obvious reason why one day the geese are feeding in the field and another day they're mooching around on the water. The increasing numbers of folk on the campsite might be an influence?

As for Tanner's Lodge, I wasn't blaming the anglers - though there's usually a Heron and quite often a Cormorant when the human fishing folk aren't there.

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Steve Suttill wrote:



Tanner's Lodge: absolutely no waterbirds (probably as a result of the large number of anglers)
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I had a look round on Tues (2nd) afternoon ...... there was no sign of life then either Steve ...... nor any anglers.

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I'm surprised at the numbers on Royal George Lodge. On Thursday morning (before 8.00 am) it was totally deserted, as was Manns. There were a few geese and gulls in the field near Manns, but nothing on the water in either location.

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First WeBS counts of the "winter"

Tanner's Lodge: absolutely no waterbirds (probably as a result of the large number of anglers) though Chiffchaffs singing and Red Grouse very vocal on the nearby moor.

Royal George Lodge:

49 Canada Geese
24 Mallard
1 Coot
6 Moorhen
2 Mute Swan
8 Black-headed Gulls

+ Dipper (unringed) on river

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Hi Liz, It sounds like you'd be better looking at photos of birds taken in the hand. If you 'google' the species you're interested in followed by 'ibercajalav' it should take you to a fantastic Spanish website with PDFs of most of the common birds in Europe. Hope this helps.

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Mon 25th Aug. 15.30 hrs.

4 Swallows flying around Dysarts.

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Further to my previous report - almost as soon as I'd posted it, I heard a chaffinch singing, went to the window and had superb and lengthy views of a pair !

However, my main reason for posting today is a question, which I hope nobody minds. Can anyone recommend a website with good pictures of birds in flight - diagrams would be fine, it doesn't have to be dramatic/arty in-flight photos, which is what I am getting when I do a Google search. I need clear images of pattern on back and upper wings.

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Greenbridge Lane, around lunchtime. Pair of grey wagtails feeding by stream

Friezland Lane, afternoon/evening.
Family party of long tailed tits - young recently fledged, judging by behaviour.
Swifts, swallows, house martins.
Finches - if I hear a finch and see it, it is almost always a goldfinch. I'm hearing lots of chaffinches at the moment, and the occasional greenfinch, but I rarely see either. They must be singing from the trees - in heavy leaf, of course - whereas the goldfinches seem to perch on the wires and poles to sing.
Garden warbler.
The usual wood pigeons and jackdaws, of course...


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