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RE: City Centre Peregrines


The Town Hall seems to be a very popular perch these days, there regularly seems to be at least on bird on the top north facing side of the "steeple".


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Just had a juv bird fly past my office window (Peter House) and land on the roof of the derelict office building opposite. I couldn't quite read the ring on its leg, but it was red and think it had a number 7 on it. It pranced about on the roof picking at stones and other muck, running from side to side, before perching on the concrete and jumping off 15 minutes later.

Lovely to watch it so close and always handy having a pair of office binoculars so my colleagues got to enjoy the sight too! biggrin.gif

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Good to see that the Co-op accept returns....






Let's just hope that Judith and Adrian's efforts pay dividends no.gifno.gif

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That's good news.

I suppose that the mirror glass is just a man made problem that the birds have to face for choosing the City Centre.

Were they in "wilder" habitat there would be other dangers facing them that are missing at the top of the CIS.

Good to see that the Co-op accept returns....

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Judith Smith brought the juvenile peregrine back from Stapley today and the bird was released successfully at about 2.30pm. It flew out about 150 yards , circled and returned to the roof just above us. We quickly left the site and and as soon as we left the building the adults returned. Food was brought in by them. The juvenile swooped down low over Roy Ridings and myself who were carrying on observation from the edge of the car park providing a superb view. The bird is very flappy close to buildings but otherwise seemed like a very strong flyer.

Thanks to Roy (RSPB volunteers) and a big thanks to CIS staff who have, forgive the pun, been very cooperative and a big thanks to the guy at the Crown Plazza who was persistent in getting someone to help the bird. I went to the hotel to thank him and he was over the moon to learn of the release. Finally thanks Paul Heaton for being patient with my anxiety!!!

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The juvenile was successfully reunited with its parents today. They found her within 5 minutes of us leaving the roof and Adrian spent about 2 hours monitoring them. The male dropped off some prey, so all is well.
Apparently the "mirror glass" is a film applied to many of the buildings in that area to minimise bomb blast damage after the explosion a few years ago. Doesn't help the Peregrines though.

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I agree the mirror effect of the glass is likely to be the main cause.

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The Crown Plaza Hotel is not very tall though and the bird must have been flying at low level to have collided with it. The CIS stands alone in that area as a tall building and between it and the hotel in question there is nothing of particular problem structure wise which might create unexpected turbulance etc. and the bird would have basically have to have flown cross a large and empty car park. I cannot understand quite why it would have struck it other than inexperience and perhaps the illusion created by mirrored or atleast highly reflective windows


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Now the remaining young Peregrine is also in care at Stapeley RSPCA wildlife hospital. It apparently hit the Crown Plaza Hotel nearby and concussed itself. From the hotel it was taken to Animals in Distress at Irlam, from where I collected it this afternoon for transfer to Stapeley. Fortunately it doesn't look too bad, and hopefully Paul Heaton will be able to return it on Monday to CIS.
It's looking like very high buildings are creating updraughts and downdraughts which may be causing inexperienced birds to collide with them - we may have to take some advice about whether to continue with that box there.

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Yesterday, I got a call from the CIS building manager who informed me that one of our young peregrines had flown into a window and died. Of course I was gutted. I went to pick up the body of the bird and it seems to me that the neck was broken so hopefully the bird did not suffer. It's a cruel and tragic fate for the bird to have died on its maiden flight. I have arranged for the dead bird to be sent to the 'Birds of Prey Monitoring Sheme' so the bird's demise will at least be useful to good science.

On a more happy note, the sibling bird fledged yesterday afternoon. It took to the air joined by its parents and shortly went back into the nest tray after doing one or two fancy manoeuvres (information provided by RSPB volunteers). Today the young peregrine spent most of the day on the lower roof of the CIS building ...in excess of 6 hours it made several false starts at flying and just before 8.00pm it shot off towards the centre of Manchester with confidence and no hesitation. I was not able to relocate it. Let's hope it survives!

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Female (I think) very agitated this morning, constantly circling the CIS tower and making a hell of a racket. Either someone is on the roof or she's trying to encourage the young to fly.

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Saw what I think was the male approach and then circle the nesting area a few times before drifting off towards the triangle area at 12.40pm

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I was working late last night ,on he 24th floor of CIS right next to the nest site, both birds where flying within 10 feet of me. Saw the male come back twice with birds for tea. Absolutely stunning seeing them fly so close if only i had had my camera with me, maybe next week when im up there working overtime.

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Great views this early evening of two Peregrines chasing in vain, a pigeon. l parked up near the CIS and there the battle was already on. They all flew and dipped and twisted as the Peregrines tea and the pigeons life was at stake.

All three ended up heading in the direction of Collyhurst/Monsall. The Raptors returned but not with their tea.

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There were 2 chicks. It makes you wonder if it's the same pair, given that they've always had 4 before. I suppose we could always have the DNA samples from last year and this year compared.

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What news folks, after the earlier "will they won't they" posts its all gone quiet!

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The ringing of the birds will be shown on NW Tonight today (Thursday) at about 1845 I guess, or after - wildlife usually with the weather!

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I am able to confirm that the female bird has one alloy ring so it may well be the case that we have the same pair.

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Judith Smith wrote:

You've discussed it with Craig and Colin, then?






Craig told me that he will contact Colin today. Colin sent me a message that he would be doing a risk assement/recky tomorrow since I indicated that the CIS would prefer a counterweight mode of decent.

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Peregrines having a bit of a "domestic" this afternoon.

At one point the female almost knocked her mate out of the sky. This was followed by much screeching. I'm not much good at Peregrine-speak but it seemed to be something like "Have you seen the state of this place? We've got those ringers coming round soon!" biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

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You've discussed it with Craig and Colin, then?

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Graham Smith wrote:

belive me wedensday is the day for ringing inside info






Graham...a date has not been set yet.

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belive me wedensday is the day for ringing inside info

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In order not to create any confusion it has not been decided what day the peregrines will be ringed. The steeplejack will be doing a risk assessment on Tuesday. After that it is all subject to the availability of those concerned and of course the weather.

-- Edited by Adrian Dancy on Saturday 22nd of May 2010 10:03:27 PM

-- Edited by Adrian Dancy on Saturday 22nd of May 2010 10:04:14 PM

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i work at the cis and know that on Wednesday the chicks will be ringed

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Sad news

the female kestrel at the town hall was the target of a successful peregrine kill. I estimate the kill took place about four days ago. It is ironic but not unexpected that since I have been watching and photographing both families over recent years that their paths would cross. The kestrels had moved and nested in the Piccadilly basin area when peregrines arrived in Manchester. They were most probably disturbed by metro-link works and other building activity and forced back to the Town Hall. The female did her bit for kestrel populations and I was honoured to rescue release two of her young. Of course I am gutted but that is nature.

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Large breakfast item delivered at 9.20 this morning.

Interesting that one of last year's young is still around. Didn't think breeding Peregrines tolerated that?

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I did a stint of volunteering today at the RSPB stand and saw the Peregrines perched on the CIS tower throughout the day, seeing both birds together on one occasion and then three on another, one of which was apparently one of last years young. It was strange to see three Peregrines flying in formation though.

Highlight though was seeing one eating preywink.gif on a balcony of the Premier Inn!

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I'm furious that they've moved - I've just manufactured a move to a desk on Floor 13 of my office with a grandstand (if distant) view of the old ledge!

The CIS is at least 3 times further away...

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Sorry if that appeared to be a negative comment, Ian, actually I'm very pleased that the nest site is in a position such that it's safe to let the whole world know of its exact location.

(I hope the CIS let their window cleaners know!)

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I know they are out of area but the peregrines just over the hill from me in Oldham get robbed every year since the RSPB left them to their own devices, I dont suppose this year will be any different, saw them the other night. The female is magnificent.

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Be fair Neil, their breeding location last season (and those previous to that) was kept a pretty decent secret. For whatever reason their move to the CIS this year and it's widespread publication (including on this forum) has little bearing on their safety as I really think they're quite safe on the CIS building

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The pair on the CIS building which had been described as "at a secret location" last year have been "outed" by the BBC local news .

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Pair circled, then landed on, CIS building 20.00 hrs tonight. 1 bird landed on the lower ne part of the building, the other on the east-facing S.

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Peregrine wheeling around the Town Hall tower this morning, perching just under the clock face, Albert Square side.

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They appear to have abandoned the usual nest tray and are now sitting in the nest box at the CIS buillding (north side).

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Birds seen copulating today...per Ivan Ellison.

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Good views this evening of bird on cathedral, sadly really crap light. I think the bird winked at mebiggrin.gif

Thanks for your text Rob...very much appreciated. I heard from RSPB that the birds were 'at it' last week. I saw the female drive the male off her favourite perch on the town hall tower earlier this week.

I'm keeping fingers crossed for the Bolton bird.

-- Edited by Adrian Dancy on Friday 12th of March 2010 08:17:15 PM

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Very acive now - we have had several great views of hunting birds from the office as well as far more frequent sightings.

The birds were copulating close to a previous nest site early afternoon today.

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They seem to have become much more visible again, and have started to show some interest in the nest site.

Best places to look for them at the moment are on the north side of the Town Hall (right at the top) or on the "E" of Arndale.

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two birds circling and swooping around CIS tower for quite some time this morning. At least one of the birds calling quite vociferously - normally the calls that you get when they are disturbed in the breeding season. Can't work out what's upset them.

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Adult sat on Bloom Street chimney for about an hour this morning in the rain

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2 Peregrines flying together over the Big wheel this afternoon.

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1 swooping down on pigeons over Chorlton St car park

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Two peregrines flying over Whalley Range at 4.00 this afternoon - I think 1 adult and 1 young but too high up to be sure.

-- Edited by gus gem on Monday 6th of July 2009 08:50:48 PM

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edited to cover my male dominated ignorance!

-- Edited by brandon mulhern on Wednesday 1st of July 2009 08:12:13 PM

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brandon mulhern wrote:

Rach wrote:

I've just noticed how late it is having spent an awful long time looking at Binoculars !biggrin.gif





he's hooked!





Or she, it could be Rachel. biggrin.gif

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Rach wrote:

I've just noticed how late it is having spent an awful long time looking at Binoculars !biggrin.gif





she's hooked!


-- Edited by brandon mulhern on Wednesday 1st of July 2009 07:46:22 PM

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Hi Geoff - yes I live high rise, I'm pretty much at the top of the tower block, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for more visits! I've just noticed how late it is having spent an awful long time looking at Binoculars !biggrin.gif

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oops i upset the boss! I should have set the priority to manchester birding photo gallery deserve the picture first, then send it to birdguides if it gets manc approval!!!








Hardly Brandon.

I was just pointing out to those that might not already know about the article (I take every opportunity I can get!) and of course of the inferior nature of Birdguides to our own website, or rather as Geoff says 'Burdgiuds' (must be Wigan speak ).

Of course I am seriously bias on the issue

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Tuesday 30th of June 2009 11:41:07 PM

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