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THE GREATER MANCHESTER 200 CLUB.


I have just realised that this coming November 1st will mark 10 years since the reawakening of my interest in Manchesters birds starting with a Purple Sandpiper at Audenshaw - how the time has flown! I have enjoyed exploring some 40 different water bodies ie flashes, lakes, lodges and reservoirs in this period, (quite apart from canals and rivers). Very well, so there is no coastline of course but G M nevertheless additionally has some other superb habitats comprising hills moors and extensive reed beds and as dedicated a body of patch workers as can be found anywhere.

Coincidentally I have seen exactly 200 different species during the 10 year period (the last one being Penningtons Temmincks Stint in May) added to which I have 15 other species in GM from the old days which I have not seen again within the county.

The penalty for not living in GM and for being out of the country so regularly during the 10 years has cost me dear -conservatively an additional 21 species, (including last weeks Rose - coloured Starling), proving that nothing can be taken for granted, but that all adds to the fun.

Best Wishes to all,

Mike P.



-- Edited by Mike Passant on Saturday 20th of October 2018 03:02:35 PM

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Good evening fellow birders and members, what a lovely evening to be sat on the club balcony drinking cold beer, and chatting about birds books and listing ..

It appears a number of GM birder have been showing off their list on a site called Bubo.org... 18 birders on the Greater Manchester Life List top four all life members, well lads and lassies get your list on there if you want.

I love the birders who has a life list of 1 haha class .

Keep Birding



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Dear Mr Passant, the membership has no bounds, the closet members are still members as for the 250 crew they have a special room within the club , all birders and non birders are welcome, as you say the ranks have slowed down a bit recently , but I feel it the calm before the storm , this autumn could be the best GM autumn yet.

Take care enjoy your birding however you do it, and remember , it is all just a bit of fun .....unless you really need it

Keep Birding



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Its 18 months since I last pondered over the composition of the 200 club. It presently comprises 30 members, (2 ladies and 28 gents). It would be rather nice if we could see more women in the ranks; I should try to get Mrs. P involved as she already has some good species under her belt as I write this (e.g.- Manx Shearwater, Osprey, Bittern, Smew, Kentish Plover, Temmincks Stint, Roseate Tern, Two- barred Crossbill, and Snow Bunting)

What has undoubtedly increased though is the number of closet members (possibly 10 or so) who quietly enjoy progressing in their own way;- nothing at all wrong with that.

What has materialised over the last year or so is the emergence of a really tough club - the 250 club, with 4 very keen birders presently there as members, followed by 4 or 5 aspirants in close pursuit; - some of us though can only ever aspire to be spectators?

Its all great fun!

Good Birding!

Mike P.



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Well what start to 2018, seems listing is still a special thing for some GM birders, I have been asked if we need to set up a top table or rename the club to The GM 250 clunb, its seems 200 is easy nowadays, hahaha, I doff my cap to all who have added to there list recently, remember its just for fun and the only way to add more is

Keep Birding.



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thank you very much fellow birders smile
keith, have sent you a pm.

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Congratulations Steve!

-- Edited by keith mills on Saturday 27th of January 2018 05:41:46 PM

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Mr Burke what an excellent way to get your GM200 bird a double seen on Merseyside and GM borders, I wonder how many times the Hoodie has done this, I have done the same as well, seen it on both location, as it is a lovely bird, I have a soft spot of corvids.

So Welcome to the oddest club in the birding world, I hope you enjoy your birding from now and add the the most sort after list in GM.

Keep Birding



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Nice one Steve....


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Well done Steve ... but ... didn't you have Hooded Crow (same one?) not so long ago near Haydock when the debate was on if it was in GM or not, when viewed from another road???
Surely not still on 199?
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how mean of you mr creek & here is me thinking you were a really nice man no
the hooded crow near haydock back in October when I watched it was clearly not in gm hence the reason I went to see the hooded crow(same one) in ashton -in-makerfield which clearly is in gm biggrin
cheers rob wink
thank you to all who have congratulated me.



Haha, I am a nice man smile
Seriously though Steve well done mate, I don't do listing but I know it takes some doing to get 200!



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Rob Creek wrote:

Well done Steve ... but ... didn't you have Hooded Crow (same one?) not so long ago near Haydock when the debate was on if it was in GM or not, when viewed from another road???
Surely not still on 199?
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how mean of you mr creek & here is me thinking you were a really nice man no
the hooded crow near haydock back in October when I watched it was clearly not in gm hence the reason I went to see the hooded crow(same one) in ashton -in-makerfield which clearly is in gm biggrin
cheers rob wink
thank you to all who have congratulated me.

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Well done Steve ... but ... didn't you have Hooded Crow (same one?) not so long ago near Haydock when the debate was on if it was in GM or not, when viewed from another road???
Surely not still on 199?
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Congratulations to Mr. Steve Burke who has just joined the club.

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Mr Hargreaves, yes I have found the papers and correspondence regarding the self found rules , and to simplify for the common everyday birds, ie Coot Mallard Pigeon etc its the largest count of that species thats you have seen that year. Now on the same shelf was the rules from the now defunct UK 250 Club , they had some great self found rules , the re-find rules is very strange , re-finding a bird rare or not , the rule again roughly is... the bird has to have been unreported from some time and believed to have moved on, ( the time is flexible ) then you have to be surprised by the re-find.. hahaha basically it all a load of ...... well whatever you want it to be, listing is listing its fun and challenge , and game one up-manship.

I have had some great twitches and kept great day list week list month lists year list holiday lists ect ect, and it was all good fun.

I now want to look back on those days with fond memories and move on to a different level, again just for the love of birding.

Have fun which ever way you want to bird, just Keep Birding.

ps a birder once told me his mate had a huge Garden list... he rules were he counted anyones garden, or any garden any bird was flying over



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Paul,deep in the library (if memory serves)there is an article by Ian which covers his "self found" definition,something along the line ofyou visit a patch a few times and note the Coot present. if on the next visit there is an increase you have selffound aCoot.That may be wrong but a list is just your own record,my puzzle is if you refind a bird or a rare bird turns up years later is it self found times2.

happy listing geoff



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Feliz Navidad from Madrid !

To all friends in the Manchester birding community, (whether in the 200 club or not); and if its not too soppy, a special Merry Christmas to all those Hawfinches this last few months who brought so much pleasure and fun to many of you; - (candidates for species of the year?)

I havent been in Manchester since last January so didnt have the pleasure myself of bumping into a Hawfinch down there.

Best Wishes for 2018!

Miguelito



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May all GM Birders have a happy festive time and a bird-full start to the new year, lets hope 2018 can bring back some good old fashion GM twitches, all the best.

Keep Birding



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Sorry Gentlemen, for the late reply.

Mr Charles Owen, has a list of 200 ! just for Pennington, wow ..now that's a proper list, well done that man, these are the right and proper members of the GM200 Club.

The club was originally going to be called the silent meals club, due to the trouble we used to get in when we got home... however the GM200 Club, seemed to give, a target for people to try and reach, over the years I have often raced out just to add a bird to a list.

I know there has been loads of discussion on the rights and wrongs of listing, twitching etc but deep down it should always be personal, you can list what you want when you want, personally I have given up twitching ? ok Wallcreeper and Male Siberian Rubythroat maybe ones to pay homage to .

I do like the self found list which is open to all sorts of odd rules and anomalies, how do you self find a Coot or a Mallard ?

So the birders that have a list of 200 for one place are good old fashion proper birders, and I doff my cap to them, for I am well short of finding 200 birds in GM, and in fact recently as I have been on a Hawfinch hunt ( i know thats not PC ) but I mean a figurative hunt, I have seen loads of common birds really well, and it has brought back by real love for birding, which is just watching and seeing birds, really looking at them, watching behaviour, looking a plumage , and just watching birds.

Perhaps Club members should do that in 2018, lets have a return to old school birding, lets just enjoy birds for what they are, lists are fun and a little bit of competition is good. But enjoy your birding for whatever reason you want to.

Keep listing ,Keep Birding,



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As a long servingwaiter at the top table I,d hate to upset any new members with "sorry your not on the list" at this years xmasbash,please submit your list.

In good fun geoff



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Another nominee from me - I like to keep things going! Charlie Owen has informed me that he too has over 200 birds on his Pennington List and would like to be considered for membership.

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A special Well done to Bill, an unassuming, modest and dedicated Pennington stalwart, with whom Ive had the pleasure to spend many a happy hour in recent years, (though not thus far in 2017).

Best Wishes, Bill,

Cheers,

Mike



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I shall let him know Paul. I'll tell him to dust off his tux for the special medal presentation!

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Craig I think a special medal for 200 birds at Pennington Flash is in order, puts a GM list in the shadows .

But hell yes Bill Harrison is a very welcome member of the GM 200 Club.



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Whilst chatting with Bill Harrison, Pennington Flash stalwart, the other day, he casually mentioned that the Arctic Skua the other day was his 200th species. Not in GM as he doesn't keep a GM list, just at Pennington. He's seen other birds in GM so his total must be well over 200 for the county. However I thought I'd submit his application for him just based on his Pennington total.

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Well done Mr. Tromans upon entering the hallowed portals of Mr. Heaton's Nuthouse. I do find the place to be a great source of comfort and solace in time of crisis/stress, with the added bonus of the availability of the padded rooms when things are very hard in the wider world beyond.

-A cautionary note though John, don't ever stay overnight, as the frequent wailings and gnashing of teeth from other inmates isn't conducive to a good night's sleep.

I did place a shilling each way on you to be the next new member, and shall be skipping to the local bookies to collect when it stops raining.

Regards,

Mike P.



-- Edited by Mike Passant on Thursday 29th of June 2017 07:07:51 AM

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Rob, an extra 0, can just add a bit of fun, thought it best to edit it before the someone else does.

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Paul Heaton wrote:

Mr John Tromans, how very pleasing that we can now add you as a full member of the elusive GM 2000 Club, well done on your latest two ticks, I hope you get many more.

Keep Birding.





You're damn right it's elusive Paul. It looks like John could well be up there on his own for many years to come. 2000 is some achievement and may never be rivalled in our lifetime. wink

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Mr John Tromans, how very pleasing that we can now add you as a full member of the elusive GM 200 Club, well done on your latest two ticks, I hope you get many more.

Keep Birding.



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The clubs ranks have swollen considerably since I last perused it in March of 2011 when there were some 20 members.

Presently in the published rankings are 29 people (comprising 2 ladies and 27 gentlemen). In addition are three other people whose names sadly no longer appear, (gone but definitely not forgotten), and an unknown number of "closet" members.

There have been no new entrants during the current year so far, so who might be the next one?

The smart money is on a certain Mr Tromans, a thoroughly nice man who enjoys his birding, but who has a masochistic streak in being a Birmingham City fan.

-Just teasing John!



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Barry Hulme congratulations on reaching the grand total of 200 for your GM county list.
I had thought you were going to stay on 199 forever, well done,

An excellent bird the Sabines gull to gain you into the hallow halls of the GM 200 club.





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Indeed it was - on both counts! Apart from 1 or 2 obvious species I had pretty much used up my 'easy' ticks, so it was always going to have to be something a bit different, and a Hoopoe was just about as good as I could have asked for (apart from maybe a second Black-faced Bunting because I missed the first)!

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Craig Higson, well done sir, what a cracking bird for your 200th. excellent way to become our newest member.

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Well, assuming that the Hoopoe passes the County Rarities Committee I've added it to my list today which I reckon takes me to the magic 200 mark -as long is I don't discover any omissions and no one decides to lump meally redpoll with Arctic or other silly decisions of course.



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Vic Chatterton, thats excellent news , and having to use buses trains and walking makes it all the better.

and as for streetpeckers, hey we count them as well.

Congratulations on your efforts

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Is Vic there? He is now....well done Vic!smile

-- Edited by Ian Boote on Thursday 23rd of April 2015 08:21:40 AM

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Saw a Barn Owl yesterday at a site in Gtr. Manchester - for obvious reasons can't say where. This and Sandwich Tern being the biggest GM blockers for me.

This brings my total to 200 in Gtr Manchester (201 really but I just can't count "Streetpeckers" (If I did then Two-barred Crossbill would have brought up the 200).
Living on the edge of Greater Manchester meant that I didn't keep a GM list but had a 10 mile list instead - otherwise I would have many more.
It was only when I checked up 2 or 3 years ago that I realised I was on over 190 that I started pursuing a list. Having to contend with bus, train and on foot meant that I've missed quite a few including the Heaton Park Red-rumped Swallows which I missed by 40 minutes.

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Well done to Mr. Wilson on finally hitting the 200 mark in style, thanks to Simon's excellent double find at Heaton Park!

I wasn't in a position to make a move myself due to commitments in the NE, and even if I had set off, the birds would have been long gone before my arrival; - one of those situations where one takes life on the chin and quickly moves on.....

Best Wishes,
Mike P.

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Mr Wilson, after very careful consideration, and a double recount of your list, its give us great pleasure to finally accept you as a member of the 200 club.

very good of Simon Johnson to share his excellent find with us all , allowing you to reach the magical 200 .

Perhaps you can repay him with a nice find at Elton.

Great to see so many faces again today.

keep birding your patch and sharing the news.

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Unfortunately I was on a train heading towards Leeds when the news broke! I didn't swear.

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Paul Heaton wrote:

Paul Wilson thats very upsetting news, to be one short, but your conduct as a gentleman, in informing us is very topper !

Now dont worry, its only the start of the year, and I am positive you will get that extra bird this year




Got it - Red-rumped Swallow - not a bad bird to bring up the 200

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Paul Wilson thats very upsetting news, to be one short, but your conduct as a gentleman, in informing us is very topper !

Now dont worry, its only the start of the year, and I am positive you will get that extra bird this year

Take care
Keep Birding.



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Recently celebrated reaching the magical (?) 200 at a site recently (getting lots of congratulations from fellow birders). Unfortunately, something had gone amiss in my Excel spreadsheet where I keep my records, and for some reason Common Sandpiper appears twice!

Therefore, I'm still one short. :(

But, looking on the bright side, it shouldn't be too long (hopefully) before I can celebrate all over again :)

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Well what a Talk last night .Birders of Greater Manchester you missed a fine night of entertainment.

The Highlights were of course all the wonderful fact and figures In Mr Atkins presentation, and his new and first public story of the Willow Tit / Marsh Tit Saga, ,but i felt the Female Chairperson from the CHESHIRE wildlife group, thanking birders for making the journey from the North was just Hilarious, she was referring to the birders from Rochdale and the moors of Tameside .
it was a jest made in fun, but it did make us all laugh, and it was the best turn out at a meeting I had seen in ages.

I am concerned that the age range of these meeting is high, please if you have kids of your own or Grand kids get them into Birds flowers trees whatever, Birders and the like are now on the Red List .

Keep Birding.

up in the north you know who you are !

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It's a 7.30 start , sorry !

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Is it a 7.45 kick off?

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Well Gentleman and ladies a chance perhaps to put a face to a name

A Talk regarding the Breeding Birds of Greater Manchester by Steve Atkins.
For the Cheshire Wildlife Group.

Wednesday 26th November in the lounge of St Marys Church Moss Lane Sale M33 6GD.
3 non Members 2 members.

With perhaps, a tankard of ale! afterwards in the Plough Inn Aston Village.

Keep Birding.

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Well there we are the great and powerful webmaster has spoken, actually he a honourable member but keeps it quiet, .

As long as it is understood the Gm 200 is a pure fictitious part of mine and its members imagination, I am proud to be part of it, and see how Gm Birders race to the 200 mark, and enjoy a bit of banter along the way.

If anyone wants to put a face to a name Steve Atkins he presenting a talk at the Cheshire Wildlife trust on 26th November in St Marys Church Sale, can you imagine if the whole club turned up.

Be proud, Keep birding.

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I'm on 130 and a target like 200 is a great motivator to bird in GM rather than always go to the low-hanging fruit nearer the coast or at RSPB places. The thread is brilliant to read too, and is a clear reason why the forum as a whole is one of the best birding sites on the web. The surreal touches about the Xmas do etc are the icing on the cake!

DO NOT DELETE IT!

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Sorry Craig, had not realised how close you were, dont worry safe for now, had a couple of positive feedbacks, thank you Gentlemen as we all know its is just that, a bit of fun, a benchmark for the heck of it, yet it makes Gm Birders want to go out and find stuff.

I certainly have spent more time birding in Manchester as a result of Ian's website and thank him for it, this thread has given me a great amount of enjoyment and I hope we can continue in the manner it was intended.

Craig,I wish you luck in getting in before the yuletide.

Bernard glad you have come out of the woodwork, and I wish you all the best in your next 9 visits

Keep adding to your GM List biggrin

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