I'm kinda with John on this one though and the use of a nice JCB to enlarge the scrape in front of the hide wouldn't go a miss
Just what I was thinking a lot of dry grassy areas around sandgrounder that could be made into a massive scrape,then we would see how many Avocets would breed in one area.Its a shame to have an area so close to all those waders with 1 moorhen in the whole area today,and with petrol prices the way they are going ,they need to do something to persuade people to travel,and for the time being its off my list.I would rather go to Ainsdale and see thousands of waders .
I'm sure that Sandgrounders hide exists so folk can watch the breeding Avocets - and what a sight it is too
But couldn't agree more with John with regard to the website T'internet's full of sites that haven't been updated since somebody got bored with what they once thought was a good idea
PM NELS Black Tailed Godwit-c1000 Redshank-25+ Little Egret-8
Sandgrounders Nowt-its in need of a re-vamp for me,whats the point of a visitors centre with nothing at the front of it,you look on the rspb website for recent sightings and Get feb 27thyep thats fairly recent,says it all really,If the rspb can't be bothered why should anyone else.
Out on the shore Thousands of Knot,Dunlin,Bar Tailed godwit
Visit this a.m. On shore 5 Summer plumage Grey Plover, 30 Little Egret and 2 Wheatear of note. From Nells had female Garganey, 50 Snipe, 100's Black-tailed Godwit, 10+ Ruff, 15 Redshank but no sign of Pectoral Sandpiper. Cheers Ian
I was there earlier on saturday morning and there were a number of warblers immediately in front of Nels hide. A bonus for me was to see a water vole (again just below the hide). A grand mornin'.
Nel's Hide- Went on the off chance that the Pectoral Sandpiper might still be about. It had been reported earlier in the day and after an hour of searching, it obligingly stepped out from behing a group of Godwits. Cracking little bird, showing really well in perfect, sunny conditions . Thanks very much to the couple who highlighted the key ID features for me. Also at Nel's were: c250 Black-Tailed Godwit 5 Curlew 20 Lapwing 8-10 Ruff (with very varied sizes and plumage) 2 Snipe 1 Golden Plover (winter plumage) 1 Kestrel - put up a group of around 200 Starlings Mixed group of Swallows and House Martins 12 Greylags 3 Shoveler 1 Gadwall
Sandgrounder's Hide- The water levels were very high and there wasn't much about 1 Merlin hunting in the distance 2 Little Egrets 2 Canada Geese 2 Shoveler Several Mallards, Tufted Duck & Coots. 1 Meadow Pipit
In farmland around Snape Green- 1 Corn Bunting 2 Reed Bunting 1 Yellow Wagtail 2 large Goldfinch flocks 3 Greenfinch
Visit last night 7.00-9.20 mainly around nel's hide:
Went looking for the pectoral sandpiper without any joy.around 8.30 a female Merlin came in over the top of the hide and flew low over the marsh and disappeared out of site.next minute it reappeared chasing a pipit next to the bank I was stood on!not sure of the outcome but it made up for dipping on the sandpiper.other birds present included: 11 little egret c150 black tailed godwit 9 ruff 3 snipe 7 curlew 100+ lapwing c80 greylag
The Sand Road (leading to the beach) A single Ringed Plover Skylarks Swift House Martins Kestrel Meadow Pipits Black-headed Gulls
Sandgrounder's Hide Black-tailed Godwits (some getting summer plumage) A single Avocet Shelduck and two juveniles, plus two other juveniles around Black-headed Gulls, chicks and juveniles
Nel's Hide Oystercatcher pair sitting on three eggs Avocets and juveniles Shelduck (lots) Lapwing Redshank pair Large Mallard family A single male Shoveler Mute Swan A Gadwall pair A single male Wigeon (left behind) Sedge Warbler A gorgeous whitish duck with a brown cap - perhaps a hybrid?
UPDATE: After checking my books I'd just decided it was probably an escaped female Red-crested Pochard when Ian PM'd me to confirm that it definitely had a lot of Red-crested Pochard in it, and it may be a leucistic or hybrid with a white duck. Thanks Ian, either way it's a lovely bird.
Some photos on my blog.
-- Edited by Martyn Jones on Friday 22nd of June 2012 09:25:38 AM
My first visit here since 1998! There's been a lot of changes since then. The habitat in front of the hides is excellent and gives really good photographic opportunities.
PM-With Charlie Owen Only things of real note this aft was good numbers of young Avocets for once,front of Nels. 25 black tailed Godwit 1 Distant Wood Sandpiper -apparently(I only had bins-it was a dot in the distance) Loads of swift and plenty Dunlin and Knot along the tideline.
Spent from 9am to 6pm down here, wish it could have been longer.
9am -
Marina - Kestrel Beach - Couple of Oystercatchers and hundreds of Ringed Plover and Dunlins Marsh towards reserve - First ever Winchat
I took the route behind the reserve then, adjacent to the golf course) Saw lots of Swifts and picked up plenty of Warblers.
Hesketh Out Marsh - Reed Warbler, fleetingly (at the start of the path in reeds) 1 Avocet 1 Little Egret 1 Likely Corn Bunting
Back to Marshside RSPB:
Pool near Sand works - Two Redshanks and Four Black-Tailed Godwit Sandgrounders Hide - Couple of Avocet, plus the usuals, never stay long here.
Nel's:
Brought the Avocet numbers to around 40 through the whole reserve, 1 Curlew Sandpiper, 1 Greenshank (well pleased), Handfuls of Wigeon, Teal, Shoveler and Oystercatcher, 50ish Dunlins, quite a few Redshanks and Black-tailed Godwits around, a flyover raptor too quick into the sun (someone speculted Peregrine) lots of Swans
Beside Platform going home - Singing Reed Warbler
Plus to top it off a Male Wheatear on the Marsh :=)
-- Edited by John Doherty on Saturday 12th of May 2012 10:03:39 PM
-- Edited by John Doherty on Saturday 12th of May 2012 10:54:39 PM
I spent a sunny but windy afternnoon at Marshside yesterday. Not an awful lot about but I did see the following:
Nells Hide 1 Garganey (lifer) 8 Avocets in danger of being swept away due to very high water levels 2 Wheatear on far bank 2 Little Grebe 2 Redshank Shoveler (m and f pair) Many Shelduck with a couple of fights between males Also Mute Swans, Lapwing and the more usuals
Sandgrounder's Hide Black-headed Gull city, mainly on the ground 1 Avocet Fewer of the usuals here
Sandworks 3 Wheatear and could be more 1 Whitethroat 1 Willow Warbler heard
Beach/Marshes 2 Oystercatchers 4 Mallard Several Skylarks singing up high and dropping to ground 1 Meadow Pipit 1 possible Stonechat Lots of Swallows and House Martins passing through
1 Great Black-backed Gull ripping a bird carcass to bits 1 Kestrel over
Not many raptors around, probably too windy and I saw surprisingly few Godwits
Little Stint 30+ Avocet 180 Golden Plover (some in breeding plumage) 40+ Ruff - some of the males looking very splendid 1000+ Dunlin flew along beach 200 Black-tailed Godwit 12 Wigeon 15 Gadwall 4 Shoveler 2nd Summer Med Gull 2 Little Egret Imm Peregrine - putting everything up
Small numbers of Meadow Pipits and Swallows moving over
I had a good omen from the train when I saw a nice clutch of six Shelduck in a field past Burscough Bridge station.
I kicked off today at ten o clock at the Marina, which yielded a single Little Egret in the roost. A single Oystercatcher flew across calling.
I the made it to the main Marshside reserve on foot, picking up a few Golden Plover on the beach en route.
From the viewing platform on the reserve I had my one and only lifer of the day, a female Merlin , which was sat on the reserve near Nell's hide. I also heard a Chiffchaff here. I had many Redshank and Shelduck to start me off, plus a few Wigeon. Nell's itself produced 22 Avocet in a nice group, plus small numbers of Shovelers, Teal, Wigeon, and Pintail, Lapwing etc etc and lots of Shelduck and Redshank. I saw some courting action between some Mute Swans too. I didn't stop for long at all at Sandgrouser's, but there were a further 8 Avocets and 2 Curlews, plus the usual stuff, and about 5 Tufted Ducks. Crossen's Inner Marsh had 2 Oystercatchers.
Crossen's Outer Marsh was braced by a cold wind. I was limited by only having binoculars as I know there is a lot of stuff out there. I walked all the way to Crossen's Pool - I was rewarded with: 1 Kestrel, which circled the marsh before thinking twice about hunting. Also - a lone Pink Footed Goose, 10 Little Egret, loads of Shelducks and Redshanks, and a handful each of Oystercatchers and Black-Tailed Godwit.
When I returned to the Inner Marsh I had two Oystercacthers and there were good numbers of Black-tailed Godwit, plus 1 Hare! The Redshank and Shelduck numbers held strong, and there were loads of waterfowl. Also there was a handful of Pink-Footed Geese (5), plus 2 Pied Wagtails.
I made my way to Nell's (I was the only one in the hide) and the Avocets could not be seen, but two flocks of Golden Plover were there (80 collectively) 1 Little Grebe, plus the same stuff from last time, minus the Shovelers.
I caught up with them (c12) at the platform when it was time to call it a draw. There were lots of Redshank around, as there had been all day, and some Black Tailed Godwits had made it up this end.
Finally, a Chiffchaff sang on the back of Hesketh Golf Links - the Blackcap don't seem to have made it this far East yet :/
Cracking day!
-- Edited by John Doherty on Sunday 1st of April 2012 09:04:47 PM
late post for yesterday sun 11th, 10.30-6.45pm 55 species seen.
went for the glaucous gull that is still around,after a 30 min walk up the beach from the pier towards marshside i thought my luck was in but it actually turned out to be a 1st winter iceland gull one off two that are also around. whilst watching this fantastic bird for over an hour it then landed next to a lesser black backed gull showing size comparison, a flock off 50+ twite was moving around landing/ feeding & as the tide started to come in i got good close views off these birds around 10metres away before a dog came running close by & they were gone also had 2 ringed plover just after the dog past nice close views also but did not stay long. 4 little egrets, hundreds off curlews, oystercatchers, shelducks, skylarks & meadow pipits along the marsh before getting to nells hide.
nells hide (1st visit)
2 avocets 2 knots 1 ringed plover 1 dunlin 1 grey plover,flew off after 20 mins. 3 grey partridges 2 little grebes 1 barnacle goose in with the canada & greylag goose. 500+ golden plovers 1000+ black tailed godwits good numbers off teals, wigeons, pintails plus the usual birds around
sandgrousers hide..
24 avocets 8 linnets 1 little grebe similar to nells teals, pintails, wigeons, black tailed godwits & b h gulls making a lot off noise.
crossens outer marsh..
2 peregrine falcons 1 merlin thousands off pink footed geese still on the marsh,did manage to pick out 2 white fronted goose. again thousands off black tailed godwits flying around, at least 12 little egrets. the glaucous gull was sighted around here at 12.30pm by another birder
nells hide (2nd visit 5-6.30pm)
similar to 1st visit but numbers increased in golden plovers & black tailed godwits & b h gulls. 1 dunlin (still) 15 ruff whilst scanning to see how may hares i could find on the far side (4) found a barn owl in the trees ripping some prey up to pieces at 5.50pm watched for 5 mins. at 6.10pm the great white egret flew past the hide going to roost. finally left nells at 6.30 crossed the road to the marsh & was greeted to a brief view off a short eared owl, a great end to the day
lots of Wideon, Teal & Shoveler. A good number of Pintails and Shelducks, also Black tailed Godwits, Curlew, a little Grebe. Big flock of Pink Footed Geese, a Common Gull and a pair of Black Swans (do they count)
I am going to return next week and get onto the sands too.
Called at Hesketh Out Marsh for a quick look before driving home but nothing there.
10.00am til dark, 55 species seen. first a walk along the beach from the pier towards marshside produced... 80+ twite (lifer) there has been quite a few reports off them lately so was well rewarded,did actually follow them back and forth for over an hour just to make sure i was not seeing things. other birds along beach... 40+ knot 1 bar tailed godwit lots off redshanks, curlews, shelducks + all usual gulls, a reported glaucous gull south off the pier. at nells.. 1 golden plover amongst the lapwings at least 4 snipe black tailed godwits, teals, pintails, wigeons, shovelers, curlews, redshanks, mallards, coots, moorhens & linnets. just a quick look in sandgrousers... all the usuals (as nells) plus pink footed geese, 7 barnacle geese & little egrets. crossens outer marsh... 2 peregrine falcons 2 buzzards 1 merlin 1 great white egret + little egrets, skylarks & linnets. stayed around here til 4.50pm to see if any short eared owls appear,but none did. but whilst walking back past sandgrousers just getting near to nells hide 1 appeared off the marsh and flew over the road,watched that one fly away and another appeared and had a little tussle with it,then another 2 came from nowhere,by this time it was getting to dark, typical. but still good to see,very good day out
Returned today, all day- conditions very cold (and I left my gloves on the train and boy did it cost me ) but very bright.
The main reserve itself - Stuffed with Lapwing, Wigeon, Teal, Shoveler, Pintail, Mallard, Black-tailed Godwit; the odd Curlew was around, a female Kestrel sent everything scrambling; a group of 100 Pink-footed Goose dropped in early morning.
I moved towards Banks in the afternoon - two Marsh Harriers (a pair) were sharing a tree - the male disappeared across the salt marsh and didn't return within the hour whilst the female stayed put. On the salt marsh at least 5 Little Egret could be seen, but no sign of a reported Great White Egret. Presumably what were Golden Plover could be heard, and lots of Shelduck were out here with hardly any in the RSPB reserve, plus some Dunlin, Black-tailed Godwit and Oystercatcher (if only I had a scope )
Only my second visit to this excellent reserve. Most of the day today produced:
3 Kestrels c300 Black-tailed Godwits 1 Little Egret Lots of Wigeon, Teals, Pintails, some Shoveler and Gadwall Plus the usuals
A stroll across the saltmarsh produced a further two Little Egrets and there were lots of Shelduck out there - I didn't get to the head of the salt marsh properly but from a distance on the way in I could see Black-Tailed Godwit, Redshank and Cormorant from a good distance
A female pintail associating with a group of mallards was a nice surprise on the marina
cheers
-- Edited by John Doherty on Tuesday 10th of January 2012 06:34:17 PM
10-4.30pm 53 species seen. raptors throughout the day... 3 marsh harriers 2 merlins 1 peregrine falcon 4 kestrels 1 sparrowhawk no short eared owls a walk along the beach produced good numbers off... oystercatchers shellduck dunlin knot redshank small numbers off... bar tailed godwits & grey plovers. + curlews, b-h, herring, common, l b b, g b b gulls & cormorants. good numbers off teal, wigeon, shoveler, pintail & black tailed godwits at nells & sandgrousers. 3 snipe (nells) 4 grey partridge (nells) 2 pochard (sandgrousers) pink footed geese all over,did manage 1 white fronted & 1 barnacle goose at sandgrousers. 6 whooper swans (over ) 1 little grebe (junction pool) cossens outer marsh... at least 10 little egrets plenty off linnets, few meadow pipits & skylarks. plus usual birds around
-- Edited by steven burke on Sunday 13th of November 2011 08:57:03 PM
sunday 4.00pm ish short eared owl on post next to pond at hide near sandworks, then it went for a fly round right in front of us for 10 mins, fantastic views.
Another quiet morning there compared to last sunday.
Plenty of greylag and pink footed geese. Large numbers of black tailed godwits. A single snipe. Wigeons, Teal, Pochards, Gadwalls, Little grebes, Shovelers and Shelducks.
Highlight for me was a water rail showing well from the main hide plus I saw my first Redwing there.
The only bird of prey today was the kestrel I saw over the marshes,
Visited this a.m., on coast side of road 1 female Marsh harrier, 2 Peregrine, 1 Merlin, 4 Kestrel and 1 Short-eared Owl(this seen at high tide, 11'ish), 100's of Skylark. Also 3 Little Egret, large numbers of all the usual waders, ducks etc and excellent weather made for an great morning. Cheers Ian
Very quiet around Marshside early this afternoon, even the hides were locked up 30+ BT Godwits behind the screen with a couple of Wigeon. A walk around the Sand plant hoping to see a Merlin only turned up, Skylark 60+ Goldfinch Reed bunting Peregrine sat on a post and another Peregrine flying along the shore line.
very quiet here today,at nells hide there was a little water with only.. 50+lapwing 30+ starling 1 common gull 1 grey heron 2 wood pigeon 2 goldfinch
at junction pool.. 1 common sandpiper 1 grey heron +mallards
at sandgrousers.. 3 curlew 1 oystercatcher 1 little grebe 1 kestrel gadwalls, teals, shovelers, mallards,coots, canada goose & greylag goose sand martins, house martins & swallows over
high tide was around 11am so stayed on the pier for a couple off hours so the best birds were actually on the beach between southport pier & marshside with good mixed flocks off.. knot, sanderling, ringed plover, grey plover, dunlin, redshank, oystercatchers & curlews 2 sandwich tern flew over the pier, also found 1 in with flock off b-h & common gulls on the beach (1st winter) only managed to see about 12 black tailed godwits at least 9 little egrets, + all the usual gulls
Myself and Jon Bowen were also here yesterday morning. We saw what looked like a part-leucisitic Starling in the fields beyond Sandgrounders hide. It had a white head and partially white neck. Anyone else see this? Must admit, it got the hearts racing when we first saw it!
very quiet 12-2.10 no water at all at nels=no birds 1 dunlin at juction pool sandgrounders area black tailed godwit-50 on the pool to the right avocet-approx-20 altogether-no young peregrine-1 imm chasing the godwits redshank on the sandplant area 1 crackin male greenland race wheatear sedge warbler lot of meadow pipits a few linnets thats about all i saw
little stint still from junction pool today, also 2 curlew sandpipers coming into plumage from main hide giving good views, lots of black tailed godwits as usual, ringed plover, but a higher count of dunlin today with around 60 ish, also redshank, and avocets though none of this years chicks so far have survived still a few still trying though,
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Did you see it? It was small and brown and flew that way.........................
full day here, a walk from the pier at southport up to marshside produced.. 56 species highlights being..
1 dark bellied brent goose, close to pier. thousands of waders along the beach swirling around and trying to avoid the 2 peregrine falcons that were stooping at them,still could not make what waders they were. the peregrines went off with breakfast though. waders i did manage to see along the beach.. black tailed godwits,grey plover,ringed plover,redshank,dunlin also had 1 yellow wagtail just before nels hide.
at nels hide.. 2 garganey good views but only reasonable pics,for me anyway. 1 dunlin, 1 golden plover, lots off black tailed godwits,ringed plover, redshank, avocet,oystercatcher and usual ducks also 1 barnacle goose with canadas. at sandgrousers.. avocets being the highlight and usual suspects. lots off b-h-gulls. whitethroat next to hide, swallows battleing the wind. around sand works.. 1 whinchat, 3 wheatear, 1 swift, skylark,linnets and meadow pipits. also the wind blew my scope over and unffortunatly broke the glass inside (gutted) but still got a good photo off wheatear went back to sandgrousers to inspect the damage to my scope and while i was there the rspb told me there was a little stint at junction pool,so off i went and yes 1 little stint also 1 common sandpiper, 1 ruff, 1 wheatear, coot and mallard with chicks, sedge warbler (heard) great day apart from the damaged scope.
Hi Joe. Just a query but are you sure your two Ruff were juveniles and not females? First summer birds may be identifiable by some retained juvenile wing coverts but it particularly difficult to gauge in the field unless they're really close. Actual juvenile plumage would not be encountered at this time of year
-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Sunday 1st of May 2011 02:27:17 PM
Carried on my train journey from seaforth to southport as I could sort of claim that it was on the way home and could get it free on my ticket. Turns out it was well worth the visit! Highlights were: 11 Avocet- one that sat right below the hide which was nice c.200 Black tailed godwit- majority summer plumage 2 White Wag c.5 Wigeon c.10 Teal 3 Ruff- 2 in juv. plumage but one adult male looking odd half in summer plumage c.10 Redshanks 2 Oystercatcher c.20 Shellduck 2 or 3 families of Greylags and Canada geese 1 Garganey- Incredibly good views- in the reeds surrounding nel's hide, but came out- amazing photos! most avocets on eggs so understandaby a bit ratty, not just towards each other but even towards godwits!
My first visit here - cracking! Only had a little while down here but haul included:
4 Avocet 2 White Wagtail 2 LRP 3 Oystercatcher 25+ Shelduck 6+ Lapwing 2 Ruff 1 Garganey 2 Shoveller (M F) 2 Teal 4 Tufted (3m 1f) Redshank Greylag - some flying over to Fairclough hide from the golf course where ten (plus young) were based. Some Sandmartins (over) And the usuals
No less than three pheasant from the train home
-- Edited by John Doherty on Friday 29th of April 2011 10:12:01 PM
-- Edited by John Doherty on Saturday 30th of April 2011 08:23:33 PM