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RE: Sunbank Lane area (includes Manchester Airport)


07/01/2013 - 12 Waxwings flew south low over the cargo center at Manchester Airport at 10.40am. I've not found a regular flock here despite some searches but the several one-off sightings in the area suggest there may a feeding flock around.

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Steve Suttill wrote:

John Harden wrote:
I think the thing that people fail to realise is that so much of the UK's much publicised need to increase airport capacity is because of the still rapidly increasing number of flights made for leisure purposes



... and how many of those leisure flights are full of people going on exotic birding holidays?

Perhaps you could tell us Steve!! But please don't associate the tiny,tiny, numbers of birders who fly out of
M/c airport with the concreting over of Sunbank Lane.


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John Harden wrote:
I think the thing that people fail to realise is that so much of the UK's much publicised need to increase airport capacity is because of the still rapidly increasing number of flights made for leisure purposes



... and how many of those leisure flights are full of people going on exotic birding holidays?

(sorry Ian, I know this should be in the discussion forum, but I had to say it!)

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And I was merely saying that there is spare capacity elsewhere, I wasn't saying people shouldn't go on holiday by air!

-- Edited by John Harden on Thursday 3rd of January 2013 11:43:59 PM

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Tim Wilcox wrote:

'letters of praise'!!! I don't think so. I sent mine of complaint from oh-so-snobby Moss Side

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Thursday 3rd of January 2013 12:05:43 AM





Thank goodness you have a more enlightened view Tim.
I think the thing that people fail to realise is that so much of the UK's much publicised need to increase airport capacity is because of the still rapidly increasing number of flights made for leisure purposes. Manchester doesn't need to expand to accommodate yet more holiday flights when Liverpool airport is still operating at about 25% capacity. It's just a matter of using what's already there more efficiently. Now, if Manchester Airport bought Liverpool off Peel Holdings, then I'm sure the continued expansion of Ringway could be halted. (And yes I know that the Sunbank Lane site is "needed" for cargo, but if there were fewer holiday flights, then there would be ample space within the existing boundary rather than concreting over more green fields.)
Sorry! Rant over!!!

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'letters of praise'!!! I don't think so. I sent mine of complaint from oh-so-snobby Moss Side

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Thursday 3rd of January 2013 12:05:43 AM

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Rafik Filobbos wrote:

Once again many thanks to those who have signed the petition. Having read several of your passionate views on the e-petition I am back asking for more help, particularly from those of you know the local area.

Manchester Council have published the Planning Documents submitted by the airport and opponents have until 21st September to reply.

As I previously stated in the discussion forum we would be very keen for anybody interested and opposed to the plans to concrete Sunbank Lane to review Manchester Airport's claims about the effect of the proposed development on the native bird population - the airport's overall assessment is that the development will have a "minor adverse effect" on the local breeding bird habitat - I personally think this is an underestimation of the impact but I think those of you whom freqently walk this area are best placed to pass comment on the claims of the airport about the impact on the local bird population.

The council website is:- http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/MCCList1.aspx?100263/OO/2012/S2
Having read further into the documents supplied by the airport the main report is in fact:-
100263-EIA-0002.pdf section 4.103 - the proposed effects of a "moderate adverse impact with minor adverse effect " on the breeding bird habitat are described under section 4.147.
Further info is contained in 100263-EIA-0009.pdf related to the studies performed.

Any further help you can provide us with would be much appreciated - I would ask you to submit your objections to Mr David Lawless : Senior Planner, PO Box 532, Town Hall, Manchester M60 2LA ref 100263/OO/2012/S2- we are currently centralizing our own responses to the following email address:- savesunbank@gmail.com.


Many thanks in advance for any of you who may help - the more letters of objections submitted the better.





Regrettably, despite objections from locals and Trafford BC, it has been reported in the local press that Manchester City Council has granted planning permission (possibly only outline at this stage) to the scheme. They had received (allegedly) many letters of praise for the scheme from residents of the City of Manchester who see the expansion of the airport as a positive thing.

Certainly local Trafford press carried several letters from people complaining about the attitude of people from "snobby Hale & Altrincham" who they perceive as being NIMBY's. An unfortunate attitude from poorly informed people who have no idea of the irreversible harm that the scheme will do to the local environment and cannot see the need for green spaces!

-- Edited by John Harden on Wednesday 2nd of January 2013 04:24:52 PM

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01/01/2013 - 1pm: 2 Red-legged Partridges - in field nearest motorway

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04/12/2012 - c20 Waxwings just north of the Romper pub perched up in birches and feeding on hawthorn berries from 11.50-12.30pm. They flew off shortly after and weren't relocated in the adjacent cargo center (an area favoured 2 years ago).

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Tuesday, 23rd October.

Apart from my Pink-feet sightings, 60+ Golden Plovers flew North over Manchester Airport at 0910.

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Once again many thanks to those who have signed the petition. Having read several of your passionate views on the e-petition I am back asking for more help, particularly from those of you know the local area.

Manchester Council have published the Planning Documents submitted by the airport and opponents have until 21st September to reply.

As I previously stated in the discussion forum we would be very keen for anybody interested and opposed to the plans to concrete Sunbank Lane to review Manchester Airport's claims about the effect of the proposed development on the native bird population - the airport's overall assessment is that the development will have a "minor adverse effect" on the local breeding bird habitat - I personally think this is an underestimation of the impact but I think those of you whom freqently walk this area are best placed to pass comment on the claims of the airport about the impact on the local bird population.

The council website is:- http://www.publicaccess.manchester.gov.uk/associateddocs/MCCList1.aspx?100263/OO/2012/S2
Having read further into the documents supplied by the airport the main report is in fact:-
100263-EIA-0002.pdf section 4.103 - the proposed effects of a "moderate adverse impact with minor adverse effect " on the breeding bird habitat are described under section 4.147.
Further info is contained in 100263-EIA-0009.pdf related to the studies performed.

Any further help you can provide us with would be much appreciated - I would ask you to submit your objections to Mr David Lawless : Senior Planner, PO Box 532, Town Hall, Manchester M60 2LA ref 100263/OO/2012/S2- we are currently centralizing our own responses to the following email address:- savesunbank@gmail.com.


Many thanks in advance for any of you who may help - the more letters of objections submitted the better.



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Cheers Ian!

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The link is on the discussion forum.

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Dennis atherton wrote:

there is also a link here to show where to sign the petition


http://manchesterbirding.activeboard.com/t50686707/say-no-to-the-world-logistics-hub/





Thanks Dennis,

I signed the petition that someone had put the link up for, but it then disappeared!



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there is also a link here to show where to sign the petition


http://manchesterbirding.activeboard.com/t50686707/say-no-to-the-world-logistics-hub/

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Petition signed, although I do fear the worst unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong though!

I would strongly recommend that as many Forum members as possible please show their support by signing the petition.

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Charles Coutts wrote:

33 young Swallows on wires at Hangar Car Park,No Adults noted
1 Swift
2 Chiffchaff next to Viewing Park

Brains gone Dead,is that the way you spell Chiffchaff,no time to look it up



-- Edited by Charles Coutts on Monday 3rd of September 2012 08:16:42 PM





If is indeed Chiffchaff Charles and not the dreaded Chiff Chaff

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33 young Swallows on wires at Hangar Car Park,No Adults noted
1 Swift
2 Chiffchaff next to Viewing Park

Brains gone Dead,is that the way you spell Chiffchaff,no time to look it up



-- Edited by Charles Coutts on Monday 3rd of September 2012 08:16:42 PM

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30/07/2012 - 7.15-9pm with Phil Owen:

1 possible Whimbrel - seemed really short-billed but only got brief silhouetted views on the deck
3 Kestrels - 2 juvs + male
2 Buzzards - juvs calling
1 House Martin
c20 Swallows
4 Swifts
1 Linnet

-- Edited by Henry Cook on Monday 30th of July 2012 09:46:09 PM

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pair of Curlew
juv. Kestrel
2 Buzzards
20+ Swallows
2 Linnets

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A pleasant 7.15pm-8.00pm walk with the dog around Sunbank Lane fields:

1 Grey Partridge
1 Pheasant
1 Reed Bunting
1 Great-spotted Woodpecker
1 Common Whitethroat
2 Linnets
2 Long-tailed Tits with young
3 House Martins
1 Swift
Lots of Swallows about
amongst others




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24/06/2012 - 5.30-6.45pm with Phil Owen, birded the fields around Sunbank Lane:

3 Mallards - first birds on the new newt ponds near cot.clough.
1 Kestrel
3 Buzzards
1 Grey Partridge - showed down to 3m from the car in the verge
6 Swifts
30+ Swallows
1 House Martin
3 Mistle Thrushes
1 Lesser Whitethroat
2 Common Whitethroats
1 Blackcap
1 Chiffchaff
3 Linnets

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2 Oystercatchers airside near Fire Station
Wheatear same location
8 Swift flying low near Romper pub

Sadly when cycling home at junction of Runger Lane and Avro Way,was a Dead Oystercatcher, obviously a road casulty

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13/06/2012 - BBS sightings from Ringway:

1 Curlew - over W
3 House Martins
20+ Swallows
4 Swifts
3 Blackcaps
1 Chiffchaff
2 Whitethroats
1 Goldcrest
2 Jays
2 Great Spotted Woodpeckers
1 Bullfinch
1 Linnet
2 Reed Buntings

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09/06/2012 - 7-9pm with Phil Owen:

1 Curlew - over W
4 House Martins
20+ Swallows - first brood now on the wing
1 Swift
2 Blackcaps
1 Whitethroat
1 Linnet

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Walked around noted nests last couple days around Hangars.
2 Swallow nests abandoned
3 Starling also abandoned

No sign of any youngsters anywhere around site,the only fledglings are 2 Pigeons inside the Monarch Hangar

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Saturday 19th May at 05L runway end produced:

- Whitethroats
- 1 male Bullfinch
- 1 Buzzard
- 1 Reed Bunting
- several Chiffchaffs
- Willow Warblers


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Peregrine noted over South side boundary on Saturday morning. Lots of Willow Warblers and Chiffchaffs also.

-- Edited by Ted Ralph on Monday 14th of May 2012 10:40:41 AM

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Wheatear by where new control tower being built
Linnet nesting beside Hanger 4(Security Pass] needed to view
In the quiteness between Aircraft taking off and landing,Im sure I heard a Cuckoo over Styal area,most likely in Cheshire,Dont think it was on the Airfield

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Quick evening check of the Sunbank Lane fields at 7.30pm.

1 Lesser Whitethroat
1 Common Whitethroat
2 Red-legged Partridges
6 Swallows (around Oak Farm)


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Since 11.00am with Tony Darby
Lesser Whitethroat heard and seen in hedge n of Cotteril Clough
Another splendid male Redstart same hedge
Whitethroat
Willow Warbler
Blackcap 2
Dunnock
Long-tailed Tit 2
Grey Heron in the Clough

Further news if we find anything else

Oak Farm Oystercatcher 1
Partridge species flushed but as it flew away and over a hedge I was not certain which
Goldcrest singing near the Bollin where good numbers of butterflies: Orange Tip, Small Tortoiseshell, Peacock, Comma

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Thursday 3rd of May 2012 05:55:59 PM

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Mad dash to Sunbank Lane before sunset, after acting as a taxi

Lesser Whitethroat chak-chaking away

A very pale Buzzard confused me for a bit

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5.45pm-6.45pm round Sunbank Lane fields with Henry Cook:

1 Lesser Whitethroat
(rattling away in hedgerow by path from Sunbank Lane to Cotterill Clough)
1 Common Whitethroat
1 Blackcap
1 Chiffchaff
1 Linnet
1 Oystercatcher
5 Lesser Black-backed Gulls
15 Swallows
2 House Martins
2 Buzzards


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02/05/2012 - 10.00-11.30am, sunbank lane, fields to the south and sunbank wood:

1 Kestrel
2 Buzzards
1 Moorhen - plus 3 youngsters doing well
1 Lesser Black-backed Gull
2 Swifts
1 Swallow
2 Lesser Whitethroats
2 Common Whitethroats
4 Linnets
1 Reed Bunting

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Visited Sunbank Wood for the first time this morning, very impressed, good habitat, with Great Spotted Woodpecker, Treecreeper, Nuthatch and Blackcap amongst the typical birds seen. Lots of wild flowers also.
Cheers Ian

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81 species in total which is pretty impressive for Manchester Borough.
It will never be a hotspot such as Wigan Flashes or Pennington, and we don't get the waders like Heaton Park or Audenshaw.

Still hoping for a Ring Ouzel one day and there's always a chance of a flyover Osprey, Red Kite etc.

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Sunday 22nd of April 2012 06:54:57 PM

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7.30pm-8.30pm.

1 Reed Bunting (by Oak Farm)
1 Oystercatcher (by Oak Farm)
1 Kestrel
20 Lesser Black-backed Gulls (over)

Tawny Owl calling in Cotterill Clough

-- Edited by Phil Owen on Friday 20th of April 2012 11:24:15 PM

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Glad you got the Greys - they are a bit tricky to see there.



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18/04/2012 - 2 Grey Partridges and an Oystercatcher this evening.

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17/04/2012 - Many more birds around the fields this evening with Phil Owen and Jason Atkinson:

1 Redstart - male, in hedge south of sunbank lane

1 Kestrel
1 Sparrowhawk
2 Red-legged Partridges
1 Oystercatcher - by Oak Farm
19 Lesser Black-backed Gulls - over W towards the Rostherne roost
5+ Swallows
2 Wheatears - male and female by Oak Farm
3 Chiffchaffs
4+ Linnets

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Walk round the area tonight with Jason Atkinson and Henry Cook:

No sign of the Redstarts (which more than likely left overnight) and fairly quiet otherwise with 2 Linnets and 1 Red-legged Partridge amongst the usuals.

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Tim Wilcox wrote:

Male Redstart in hedge alongside path from Cotteril Clough to Sunbank Lane 11.00am
Field near Oak Farm Red-legged Partridge 3
Linnets 2
Kestrel





Thanks for the heads-up Tim.

I'm glad you decided to go there this morning. I just knew something would have to turn up while I was away, typical!!

Cheers

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Myself and Phil Owen had 2 Redstarts along the same section of hedgerow this evening - a fem and subadult male (possibly different to Tim's bird?).

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A Quick nosey down sunbank lane this evening produced some birds in the form of:

1 Blackcap
1 Kestrel (f)
1 Chiffchaff
and a Cormorant which flew overhead

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Male Redstart in hedge alongside path from Cotteril Clough to Sunbank Lane 11.00am
Field near Oak Farm Red-legged Partridge 3
Linnets 2
Kestrel

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Kestrel around the farm again

Singing Chiffchaff and Willow Warbler

2 Buzzards

Great-spotted Woodpecker and Nuthatch in Cotterrill Clough

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Quick visit this evening at 6.30pm:

Quiet tonight with just a single Swallow by Oak Farm and a Kestrel over the fields amongst the commoner species.



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A pleasant 6.00pm-7.45pm walk round the area with Stuart Smith:

2 Red-legged Partridges in the field closest to the M56, seen running towards the Brambles.

1 Treecreeper in a hedgerow by the houses.
1 Buzzard
1 Kestrel

1 Oystercatcher and 2 Lapwings still around.

Nice to meet you Stuart.







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07:45 2 Grey Partridge by track to houses on Sunbank Lane

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Quick check of the fields 6.30pm-7.00pm:

1 Oystercatcher still in field by Oak Farm and 2 immaculate Lesser Black-backed Gulls feeding in the cattle field by the layby, otherwise fairly quiet.

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