hi all,i called in on the north wharf site this am and despite the fuss of a low loader leaving still had definate sightings of two little ring plover and six lapwings,also i flushed what i presume was a jack snipe(never seen one in the feathers if you know what i mean)which dived towards the bollards.Just to clarify the situation i propose that we build up a concise list of sightings on the sightings section,maybe titled, bird sightings north wharf os ref sj801973,and move the chat over to discussion bit ,that way the sightings will appear as clear record of observation,and if some one can get photos all the better.what do you all think ??the disscusion side is now open.
Since posting the last message I have been in touch with Greg Conway, survey organiser at the BTO. Below is his reply:
This sounds like a tricky one!
I don't have any pervious experience of such a case, however, I would not think that the disturbance issue comes into effect until breeding activity starts (ie building the nesting scrape/egg laying).
Unless the site is actually occupied by LRP's, there isn't much that you can do. However, if they are on-site you could write to the local council (Building Dept) and the BBC/developer, to inform them that the birds are present and potentially breeding. At least if they are aware of their presence they can't plead ignorance.
The other course of action would be to contact you local Police Wildlife Liaison Officer, who will know the legal issues involved and should be able to deal with the falconer.
I hope this is some help and do let me know hoe things progress.
Steve - Since LRP bred last year they should be turning up somewhere on the Quays very soon. When does the Act consider the breeding season to begin for LRP - In my book it would be from when a male arrives on site to establish a territory - any thoughts or past examples?? Bit of a tricky one this. I'm sure you would have to have proof of a breeding attempt (ie a nest and, preferably, eggs) but these "developers" have money for clever lawyers. Maybe Judith would have a better idea as she's on the Rare Breeding Birds Panel?
I had the same thought so went over to Pomona, after work at about 1715hrs. There were 6 Lapwing on the site but no other Plover. I've noticed each time I've visited Joggers use the closed off road as a route presumabley from the Quays to developments closer to the city centre. Therefore there is regular disturbance so I'd be surprised if any Plovers took up residence. There must be a few suitable "brown-field" sites along the MSC so may have a look around at other sites, the problem being most are industrial and private.
Nick - Thanks, Good to see guess number 2 was correct, although i prefered the lowry art conclusion. I hear contractors are getting into the breeding bird prevention game (see netting covering street trees in City Centre Manchester. also aimed at the prevention of breeding birds slowing down development).
I popped down to check out Permona Docks area this morning as the BBC site was crawling with surveyors. Its worth a look now the invading grassland and scrub has just been cleared prior to development. I have a feeling that any displaced birds may use this area if they get there before the proffessional bird scarers.
Steve - Since LRP bred last year they should be turning up somewhere on the Quays very soon. When does the Act consider the breeding season to begin for LRP - In my book it would be from when a male arrives on site to establish a territory - any thoughts or past examples??
I'm sure you are all keeping a keen eye on this site but can you particularly watch out for Little Ringed Plovers?
Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 as amended by the Environmental Protection Act 1990. It is an offence to intentionally disturb this species during the breeding season without a valid licence. You can quote that to the Harris Hawk!
If either (or both) Ringed or Little Ringed Plover are allowed to nest there, the BTO is doing a breeding survey this year so let me know and I'll send you a recording form.
I took a wander over to the back of the Lowry today, 1230hrs, to view the BBC area with bins. The Ground Investigation company is in attendance and working but there was also a silver 4x4 with red company sign on the side (the angle of the vehicle meant I couldn't read the sign). Out from the 4x4 appears one Falconer, one Harris Hawk and a couple of Terriers !! There were also two other individuals in attendance taking photos of the Falconer and Hawk. The three then proceeded to walk around the site, flying the bird post to post.
Unsurprisingly I didn't see any birds !!
Now I could be charitable and state that perhaps they are clearing the sites of rabbits, although the cynic in me may suggest that its more likely they are doing this to prevent any nesting birds taking up territory (and therefore potentially delaying development) but I'll leave that for open (lively) debate !!!!!
tried a new spot today,sj802973 or north wharf in the a to z , 3 ringed plover 6 mute swan 8 cormorant 12 magpie(must be hundreds of the buggers i counted thirty mobbing two crows that were just passing through the other day) 6 goldfinch 2 greenfinch 2 blackbird 2 mistle thrush 1 skylark (singing)just over me head
but it was only a quick stroll before work ,so i,ll go and spend some quality time with em next week
