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Rob Creek


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Reply from Mark Fitzpatrick.

F41:M is indeed a Manx bird, ringed as a chick on the Calf of Man on 28.06.24.
He has it as a Herring Gull whereas I wasnt sure what it was and opted for Lesser Black-backed, I always think they are difficult at that age, so thats that sorted, Herring Gull it is.


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I think its only right to state that the recent bird Ive been posting as a 3w Caspian Gull has been re-identified as a Herring Gull. Apologies for the misidentification, this one certainly caught me out confuse

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Mon 24th March

- 3w Caspian Gull on 384 roof at 7am but flew over onwards BCA roof and I couldnt relocate it - I had to go to work anyway.


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Sun 16th March

- 3w Caspian Gull this morning.
Bright sunlight made for difficult viewing around the 384 roof area but it eventually dropped into the yard where it showed well for a while.

Also of note a 1w bird F41:M on an orange ring. I think it?s a Lesser Black-backed but I?m by no means certain. Its likely a Manx bird.


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Fri 14th March
Late afternoon visit.

- 3w Caspian Gull same bird as yesterday, flew in and landed on the red prefab near the 384 building.

Nice to see John Raynor, shame the Caspian turned up after youd gone. I reckon it will be there over weekend.




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Thurs 13th March.
Late afternoon visit.

- 3w Caspian Gull
- 1w Caspian Gull

Both Gulls on 384 roof together but couldnt get them in same shot.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Friday 14th of March 2025 09:51:50 AM

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Fri 7th March

- small influx of Lesser Black-backed Gulls with 25+ adults around the yard and on 384 roof

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Tues 4th March

- 2 yellow legged Herring Gulls, possibly a 3rd but Im not sure if its the same adult from the other image.


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Sun 2nd March
- individual present that I was reporting as a Yellow-legged Gull with yellowish orbital last year, could well be a hybrid, its just not quite right for michahellis.


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Fri 28th Feb.
Few visits during the week but a big reduction in Gull numbers.

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- Lesser Black-backed Gull H4:W present, a Walney Island bird thats visited here a few times in the last few years.

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Sat 22nd Feb.
Afternoon visit.

- 2w Caspian Gull
A clean cracking looking individual. Showed well on 384 roof then flew off to BCA roof.


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Thurs 20th Feb.
Mid-afternoon visit.

- 1w Caspian Gull
Admittedly not a smart example but I think theres enough in it.

- 2w Caspian Gull
The regular bird thats showing more grey mantle now, again not a classic example.


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Weds 19th Feb

- Yellow legged Herring Gull, probably same bird.


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Tues 18th Feb

- Yellow legged Herring Gull present mid afternoon


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Sun 16th Feb
Early morning visit before the churchgoers.

- the pale northern Herring Gull again
- what I think is a 4CY Caspian Gull



-- Edited by Rob Creek on Wednesday 19th of February 2025 11:06:35 PM



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Thurs 13th Feb.

- Herring Gull (a far Northern one)

An unusual Gull for me with its pale primaries and a lovely scapular pattern. I initially thought it couldve been some type of Glaucous hybrid. A smart looking individual.


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Weds 12th Feb

Not too many large Gulls around but of note .. the supposed 2w Caspian Gull was on site mid afternoon.


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Fri 7th Feb
- 4 x 1w Great Black-backed Gulls
- 1 Redwing over

Sat 8th Feb
- 2w Caspian Gull present at 8am


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Few visits this week but not many Gulls and nothing of note in the ones present.

Thurs 6th Feb
- 2w Caspian Gull again.
Although I keep posting this bird, its certainly not a classic in my opinion but probably enough in it to submit as a record.


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Sat 1st Feb

- 2w Caspian Gull again, last seen 12th Jan
- 3 x 1w Great Black-backed Gulls


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Thurs 30th Jan.

- same 1st w Caspian Gull present again mid-afternoon.
Certainly not the best of examples but I feel there are a few things going for it.


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Tues 28th Jan

- 1st w Caspian Gull
Same bird that had the orange staining on its face recently.


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Fri 24th Jan
Afternoon visit but not a single Gull, mustve all been blown away in the hurricane force winds.

Sat 25th Jan
Early morning & lunchtime visit but again not a single Gull.

Sunday 26th Jan
Few Gulls starting to arrive back from where they ended up on Friday.

Of note
- 14 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 1 yellow legged Herring Gull
- 2 Ring-necked Parakeets
- unexpectedly c20 Fieldfare over




-- Edited by Rob Creek on Wednesday 29th of January 2025 05:27:25 PM

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Tues 21st Jan

Mid afternoon visit.
- Yellow legged Herring Gull, looking at the palish mantle and the reduced white on the primaries, I think it?s an Argenteus. Initially picked out by another birder.


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Sat 18th Jan

- 1w Caspian Gull
Showed well in the main yard and then on the 384 roof. Same bird as yesterday, it has the orange staining at the base of the bill on the left side of its face.

- Yellow legged Herring Gull
Superficially it looked like an Argenteus but the white proportion on the primary pattern suggests otherwise.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Monday 20th of January 2025 09:49:54 PM

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Fri 17th Jan

Early afternoon visit on way back from Liverpool.
- 1st w Caspian Gull showing well on 384 roof

Late afternoon visit after work.
- adult Caspian Gull showing well on 384 roof


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Weds 15th Jan

- German ringed Black-headed Gull XU42 again, not seen it since since November.

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Sun 12th Jan

- 2w Caspian Gull
Usual bird, starting to look a little different now, slightly whiter head.


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Fri 10th Jan

- adult Yellow-legged Gull
Same individual as one of Tuesdays birds. It was a bit closer and better views of the open wing too.

- 2w Caspian Gull
The usual bird thats been hanging around last few weeks.


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In relation to Tuesdays sightings post, it transpires there was a 3rd individual in my images that I thought couldve just been the 2nd bird.
The thing is now, do I think its a Yellow-legged Gull? Well I thought it looked like one the other day hence why I took the photo, but unfortunately I didnt see open wing, and its probably unwise to confidently identify it from the image.
I will look for it again in the meantime.

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Thurs 9th Jan

- 1w Caspian Gull
Nipped out of work early afternoon on my lunch, but like an idiot Id left my SD card at home after transferring some images to my phone yesterday so only managed a poor iPhone shot in fog, but I think you can see what it is. Will try again tomorrow at some point.


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Tues 7th Jan

- probably 2 ad Yellow-legged Gulls

1st individual a bit on the small side, bill not the heaviest, possibly female, legs a little bit on the wishy washy side, mantle shade and primary looked to be ok. Got a good flight view too.

2nd bird a bit larger, heavier bill, bit of faint head streaking on this one, legs more obviously yellower, good view of open wing on 384 roof.

Both birds will be submitted.


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Sun 5th Jan.
Early morning visit and some decent birds around.

- 1w Caspian Gull
Same individual as 1st & 3rd Jan, showing well in the yard.
- c60 Fieldfare low over east
- small flock of c15 Redwing west
- 1 Raven over

Gulls.
- Probably c300-400 large Gulls present, vast majority being Herring Gulls and unidentifiable 1ws
- c40+ Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 41 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 4 ad Lesser Black-backed Gulls
- 4 Common Gulls chasing Black-headeds
- 100+ Black-headed Gulls


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Fri 3rd Jan

- 1w Caspian Gull
I wasnt going to post this one but events unfolded that made the identification a bit safer so to speak.
I was toying with 1w Great Black-backed due to large size, long legged, fairly heavy looking bill, whitish head but some streaking, but something wasnt right. Caspian crossed my mind but I dismissed it and started leaning towards 1w Yellow-legged Gull. Thats where I got stuck and wasnt sure at all.
But looking at the greater coverts on images of the bird below and from the 1w Caspian that I claimed on New Years Day, you can see its the same bird so Ive got to stick with my 1st Jan conviction as a 1w Caspian.


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Happy New Year to all forum members.

- cracking 1st winter Caspian Gull in the main yard this morning to kick the year off with a bang

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Mon 30th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull
same recent bird



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Sun 29th Dec
Morning visit.

- adult Yellow-legged Gull
- yellow legged Herring Gull
- Great Black-backed Gull JC643 (code to be checked)
- Lesser black-backed Gull A:70W
- 6 Common Gulls
- 2 Ring-necked Parakeets over


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Sat 28th Dec

- adult Yellow-legged Gull
- 6 Common Gulls
incl 3x adults & 3x 1w
- Lesser Black-backed Gull A:70W



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Boxing Day.
Early morning and early afternoon visit.

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- yellow legged Argentatus Herring Gull
- 30+ Great Black-backed Gulls
mainly adults, but also 3 x 1w, 2 x 2w


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Christmas Eve.
Early afternoon visit on way back from Liverpool.

- adult Yellow-legged Gull
- yellow legged Argentatus Gull


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Mon 23rd Dec
Early afternoon visit.

- 20+ Argentatus Herring Gulls incl yellow legged individual
- 25+ Great Black-backed Gulls incl 4x 1w, 1x 2w

Numbers of these 2 seem to be pretty much constant recently

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Sun 22nd Dec
Early morning visit before the gospel churchgoers.

- adult Yellow-legged Gull on 384 roof
- 2nd winter Caspian Gull appeared later
- 21 adult Great Black-backed Gulls (also 1w & 2w)
- 20+ Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 2w Herring Gull with the half eaten blue fabric sticking out of its mouth, its been like that for over a week now


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Fri 20th Dec
Early afternoon visit on way back from Liverpool.

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- Yellow legged Herring Gull
The regular bird, now leaning towards Argentatus


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Sun 15th Dec
2 hour stint this morning in dim and murky conditions but still some decent birds around. Decent numbers of Argentatus Herring Gulls again but Ive only stated what I could see properly, still many Gulls on BCA roof unaccounted for.

- 2w Caspian Gull again
- 23 Argentatus Herring Gulls on 384 roof & main yard
- Yellow legged Herring Gull probably Argenteus
- Herring Gull Y:992
- 4 Ring-necked Parakeets over
- 2 Redwings over
- Carrion Crow with white wings



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Sat 14th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull again this morning, showing well on 384 roof albeit in poor first light early this morning (7.50am), nice little birthday present smile

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- 20+ adult Great Black-backed Gulls and a nice 1w bird too
- at least 15 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- group of 7 Redwings over towards city centre
- 2 finch-types over, sounded like Lesser Redpoll so Im gonna stick with that
- at least 40 Carrion Crows around


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Thurs 12th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull again, showing well on 384 roof and in flight

- c50+ Argentatus Herring Gulls around the site.
I thought it was a decent count with at least 30 on 384 roof and in the yard, but even more were on BCA roof.

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Tues 10th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull present again.
Spotted it with my bins on 384 roof as soon as I parked up the van but no sooner had I reached for my camera - the whole lot went up due to a gas scarer in the yard.

Also 25-30 Argentatus Herring Gulls

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Sun 8th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull
Same individual as Thursday, probably not the best example but its got a decent enough look about it. Admittedly there is still some fine streaking to the head and to the flanks which was a concern, the bill had a slightly more defined gonydeal angle than Id like too but I cant help but feel it is a Caspian.

Also this morning..
- adult Yellow-legged Gull couldnt pin it down for a photo
- 2 Ring-necked Parakeets


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Thurs 5th Dec

A very intriguing 2w Gull that I think was a Caspian but unfortunately instead of pressing transfer, I pressed erase and lost the photos. I managed to retrieve them with a special app but they are only as extension files so cant transfer them yet!


Sat 7th Dec
Absolutely diabolical weather at one point mid-morning and not many Gulls around, highlight was a Grey Wagtail.

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Also on Saturday

- JU668 Great Black-backed Gull

Ringed 13.06.09 at Finnmark, Norway.
Also seen 28.05.10 at Moore NR, Warrington.



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Sat 30th Nov
Early morning visit at first light then a late morning visit.

- a cracking Raven over the yard
- 40 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 28 Argentatus Herring Gulls
(Many Gulls unaccounted for in the way of identification as they were asleep on BCA roof so primary patterns not visible and light wasnt the best so probably a lot more)
- 2 ad Common Gulls chasing Black-headed Gulls


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