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RE: Redgate Recycling, Gorton.


11.30 - 2pm

Caspian Gulls - a 1st W (not Red 5.3), a 2nd W and a 3rd W all in the area during the time I was there.

 



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Reply from Roland-Jan Buijs (Dutch ringing group).

Caspian Gull 5.3
Ringed 17.05.22 at Lelystad (Bataviahaven), Flevoland, NL

18.11.22 seen in Sheffield


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Caspian Gull - 1st winter, red ringed 5.3, on 384 roof 13.47-14.22

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- 1st winter Caspian Gull 5.3 from earlier

Unfortunately I didnt manage to capture the other bird, could well have been the bird from this morning.

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Tues 20th Dec.
Quick call in on way back from a very busy Liverpool route.

- 2 x 1st winter Caspian Gulls on 384 roof.
As I got out of the van with my camera a wagon drove passed and clattered over a road divet flushing a few of the Gulls including 1 of the Caspians.
The other one stayed and I could see it was Dutch red ringed. It did a quick fly round and landed back on the roof.
The ring number was 5.3

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Tues 20th Dec

- 1st winter Caspian Gull on 384 roof at 8.28am until flushed by the gas scarers


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1st Winter Caspian Gull on roof of 384 at 15:45 today.



-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Monday 19th of December 2022 08:03:16 PM

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Mid-afternoon visit on break up to 2.50pm.

Of note
- 40+ adult Great Black-backed Gulls on 384 & BCA, many more Gulls in the air so possibly more

No sign of any Caspian Gulls for me but there was an intriguing 1st winter Herring Gull with a fairly white head and longish slim bill, on the 384 roof and then in the yard, but as it took flight its underwings were dark and it didnt look right for a Caspian, so for me it was a Herring Gull.

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Sun 18th Dec

Morning visit.
- 3rd winter Caspian Gull showing well at times on 384 roof then disappearing behind the rubbish mounds in the yard. It was still knocking around at 11am when I left.

Other birds of note
- c15-20 Argentatus Gulls
- 5 Redwings over
- 1 Wren




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Nice to see Pete Kinsella & Co today. They were present when I arrived for my 2nd visit and theyd had the Caspian Gull mid morning so I reckoned it was only a matter of time before it returned.

Other birds of note
- 14 Argentatus Gulls (probably more, difficult to count as there was lots of activity with Gulls coming and going)
- 1 green ringed Herring Gull (missed the number)
- 1 white ringed Black-headed Gull
- 7 Redwings over
- 1 Grey Wagtail
- 2 Pied Wagtail

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- 3rd winter Caspian Gull

I went back after Lucas football class and after a bit of a wait I picked up a bird in flight over Redgate Lane. It continued over the yard then towards Hyde Rd before swinging round the 384 building and landing in full view on the roof. What a beauty of a Gull this is!
It continued to show well on the roof before dropping into the main yard where it showed on and off, it kept disappearing behind the rubbish mounds.


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Sat 17th Dec

- probable 3rd Winter Caspian Gull early morning but disappeared towards Openshaw

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3rd winter Caspian Gull early afternoon.

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Reply from Tim Frayling regarding 3rd W Herring Gull N:26E from 4th Dec.

- Ringed as a chick at Bowland, Lancs. 17.07.20
- Seen at Queens Park Lake, Lancs (presumably Blackburn) 28.01.22

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Tues 13th Dec

- 1st W Caspian Gull in flight over Redgate Lane and Stoodleys mid afternoon. Seemingly dropped into the yard but no sign since.

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Sun 11th Dec

- 1st winter Caspian Gull

Clocked it at distance first off on Stoodleys roof then realised I could get a better view. Showed well for a bit then it became mobile, before landing on the 384 roof. I lost it eventually but I had to go anyway.

Apologies for the late post as my data went down.


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Fri 9th Dec
Afternoon tacho break on way back from Liverpool.

- Common Gull 4
- Great Black-backed Gull adult 7
- Argentatus Herring Gull 10
- Black-headed Gull c150+
- Grey Wagtail 2
- Pied Wagtail 1
- Starling c200

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Sat 3rd Dec
- ad Yellow-legged G late afternoon


Sun 4th Dec
- 1st W Caspian Gull this morning
- Herring Gull Y:685
- Herring Gull N:26E


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Friday 2nd Dec.  11am -2pm.

1st W and a 2nd W Caspian Gull, Ad Y L Gull, a Lithuanian and a Norwegian ringed B H Gull on the mound and 384 rooftop over the period I was there.

50+ large Gulls

100+ BH Gulls.

 



-- Edited by Craig Bell on Saturday 3rd of December 2022 11:40:12 AM



-- Edited by Craig Bell on Saturday 3rd of December 2022 02:54:58 PM

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Fri 2nd Dec.

Afternoon tacho break on way back from Southport. I was there until it gone 4 and getting quite dark. Virtually all of the Gulls had flown off by the time I was leaving anyway.

Of note
- probable 1st w Caspian Gull in flight
(bad light so not 100%)
- c10 ad Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 3 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
(including the one with the hanging down wings)


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Tuesday afternoon.

Called in on way back from Liverpool, absolutely loads of Gulls, c150-200 large Gulls around the site with a rough count of 60 on the 384 roof alone.

- No sign of the 2W Caspian Gull, probably already at Audenshaw
- 25+ Argentatus Herring Gulls, varies every day
- 1 Grey Wagtail
- 3 Pied Wagtail
- 1 Robin

and then the highlight, an adult type Iceland Gull appeared in flight over the yard, no time to get the camera so I swiped my iPhone to camera and took an image of the large group it was in before it disappeared. I think I got it but could be wrong.
Hopefully gets picked up at Audenshaw as I wont be at Redgate now until Friday.



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Tues 29th Nov
Quick stop on way to Liverpool.

- a 2nd winter Caspian Gull appeared flying over the yard then towards Hyde Rd. I re-found it on the 384 roof on the Hyde Rd side but in an awkward spot for any good photos but I took some anyway.

Also forgot to post Herring Gull N:54L yesterday afternoon.


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2nd winter Caspian Gull showing very well this morning and 7 Great Black backed Gulls.

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Mon 28th Nov
Afternoon visit during work lunch break.

- a superb 2nd winter Caspian Gull flying around and then dropped into the yard in full view.

I thought I had a 1st winter Caspian Gull too in flight over Redgate Lane looking ready to land in the yard, but the area I anticipated it landing didnt pan out and it disappeared over the back fencing so didnt get a close up Im afraid.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Monday 28th of November 2022 06:31:56 PM

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Fri 25th Nov
Pretty much the same as last couple of visits.

- 8 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 6 ad Great Black-backed Gulls

Of interest 3 Common Gulls turned up and spent the next 5-10 minutes chasing Black-headed Gulls for bits of food.

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Reply from Tim Frayling regarding 1W Herring Gull N:66E from 5th Nov.

Ringed as a chick at Walney Island, Cumbria, on 4th July.


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Sat 19th Nov (am)
- 9 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 5 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 1 Grey Wagtail
- 2 Pied Wagtail

Mon 21st Nov (pm)
- 11 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 6 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 1 probable intermedius Lesser Black-backed
- 1 Redwing through
- 2 Pied Wagtail

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Mon 14th Nov
Nipped out in my lunch break mid afternoon.

- 4 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 9 ad Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 2 Pied Wagtails

Then as I was driving off on Hyde Rd I noticed an adult Gull coming in and land on the 384 roof near the corner of Redgate Lane and Hyde Rd. Something about it just said have a look before you go Rob, I pulled in to the side street and got my bins out.

- adult Caspian Gull
Beautiful bird. I was in the right place at the right time, and managed some ok shots from across the road, it will be submitted as always. I even saw it cough up a pellet or something like, it then ate it again.
Image time & date says October, my fault, its November!


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Monday 14th of November 2022 10:53:14 PM

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Fri 11th Nov
Mid afternoon visit on break
- Lesser Black-backed N:W34 again


Sat 12th Nov
Lunchtime visit for an hour or so.
- c50 Pink-footed Geese over W towards the city centre
- 7 Redwings together
- 2 Greenfinch
- 2 Grey Wagtails
- 3 Pied Wagtails
- 2 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 6 ad Argentatus Herring Gulls
- c100 Black-headed Gulls

Also worth a mention was the decent number of Woodpigeon over, mainly singles and groups of 5-10 birds, possibly around 50-75 birds over, nothing spectacular I know, but over a virtually city centre site I thought was ok.


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Had a reply from Roland-Jan Buijs in Holland regarding Caspian Gull 6.V from 18th October. The reply went to my spam so didnt see it.

Caspian Gull 6.V (R-6V)
Ringed - 30.05.22
Ringer - Albert de Jong
Location - Lelystad (Bataviahav), Flevoland, NL



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Sat 5th Nov
(Forget month on image, I was altering time settings and accidentally caught it.

- Herring Gull (presumably) N:66E
- 6 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 4 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- c150 Black-headed Gulls
- 1 Jay in 384 yard
- 1 Sparrowhawk being harassed by 8 Redwings
- 2 Grey Wagtails
- 3 Pied Wagtails


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Didnt get much chance to visit the site over weekend as my car went into shutdown mode after the battery decided to pack up on Hyde Rd on Saturday morning.

Called in this afternoon (Tues) on tacho break.

- 14 Redwings over N
- 2 Argentatus H.Gull
- 1 Grey Wagtail

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Fri 21st Oct
- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:W34 again (pm)
- 4 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 2 Great Black-backed Gulls ad
- 1 Jay over BCA


Sat 22nd Oct
- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:W34 (am)



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- 1st winter Caspian Gull
Dutch ringed 6.V

Went back after work but there was no sign of it, I thought I had another Caspian Gull possibly a 2nd winter but it was distant and difficult to tell, Ill probably put it down as a Herring Gull.

- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:W34 again
- 1 Grey Wagtail
- 1 Pied Wagtail
- c150 Starling


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Tues 18th Oct

- cracking 1st w Caspian Gull this afternoon on 384 roof

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Sun 16th Oct

- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:W34 again, last here a few weeks ago.


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Sat 15th Oct

- c15 Redwings low over Redgate Lane / yard

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Sun 9th Oct

- Herring Gull Y:685 still visiting the site. Looks totally different to a month ago now with its streaked head. It will probably visit the site on and off over the winter as it?s done in the past.

Tues 11th Oct

- 1 Jay over BCA, dropped down near PDSA (am)
- 2 Raven over Hyde Rd / Redgate Lane (am)
- 4 Grey Wagtails this evening (2 on 384 roof, 2 on prefabs)


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Few visits this week but with the darker nights drawing in its been a bit late after work and most of the Gulls have gone to roost.

However, just had a Raven low over the site (Friday) and on Tuesday and Wednesday there were 2 Grey Wagtails both visits, and a Sparrowhawk on Sunday afternoon.

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Few visits over weekend, a few intriguing Gulls seen but I will probably dumb them down as nothing interesting.

Sat 24th Sept.
- 3 cracking Argentatus Gulls

Sun 25th.
- 4 Argentatus Gulls
- 1 Ring-necked Parakeet

Mon 26th.
- 4 Argentatus Gulls

and a Lesser Black-backed Gull K+N on a very pale green ring. Bird flew off so no images but got the ring number with my bins when it was fairly close in the yard.
Tried cr-birding with a lime green ring and 2 alpha settings, even though it wasnt really a lime green. Pete Rock came up as possible ringer and if it wasnt one of his then hed probably know whos it was as he is one of the cr-birding
co-ordinators.

Had a reply this afternoon and it is indeed one of his.
It was ringed in Bath 09.07.14, has been seen again in Bath 2016, but as Pete put in his reply Good work Rob, this bird has stayed under the radar for over 5 years.
And his definition of the ring colour is PG3 (Pale Green 3) that he has only used 3 times, certainly not lime in his opinion!

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Thurs 22nd Sept

- adult Yellow-legged Gull
Showing well for a short while on 384 roof this afternoon but flew off towards BCA, tried to relocate it but the rain was getting heavier and my lunch break was ending.

-- Edited by Rob Creek on Thursday 22nd of September 2022 09:20:05 PM

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Tues 20th Sept

- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM again late morning.
- 4 adult Great Black-backed Gulls
- 1 Grey Wagtail
- 2 Pied Wagtails
- an unexpected Great Spotted Woodpecker flyover

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Just had a reply from Mark Fitzpatrick, Manx Ringing Group.

Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM

I apologise for the lack of replies. Thanks for your three emails about T0XM. It is interesting that it is hanging around the site and not just feeding up and moving on south. This LBB Gull was ringed as a chick near the Point of Ayre, at the northern tip of the Isle of Man on 1/7/2011.

Some of our Manx LBBs of a similar age have been seen over 20 times, mostly from their wintering sites in southern Spain or in Portugal. This has been seen only twice since ringed, prior to your sightings:

visit_date capture_time location_name gridRef
01/07/2011 18:00 SAN-POA (Point of Ayre) NX4604
22/12/2012 12:00 SANLOR (San Lorenzo Beach, Gijon)
06/08/2014 12:00 AGP (Point of Ayre Gravel Pits) NX4504

San Lorenzo Beach is on the north coast of Spain, west of Santander.

The BTO ring number for this bird is GR21815.

kind regards,

Mark

Mark Fitzpatrick
for Manx Ringing Group

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Rob Creek wrote:

Mon 19th Sept
- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM still

Tues 20th Sept
- 128 Pink-footed Geese over North 8.20am
(2 skeins 60 & 68)





Another 54 over North at 8.48am

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Mon 19th Sept
- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM still

Tues 20th Sept
- 128 Pink-footed Geese over North 8.20am
(2 skeins 60 & 68)


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Back early hours Friday morning from a week in Crete, serious Gull withdrawal symptoms not only from missing Redgate but also through a lack of Gulls over there!

Of interest I has a few replies from Tim Frayling regarding some recent ringed birds seen here in the last few weeks.

N:M03 Lesser Black-backed Gull
Ringed 06.07.22 at Abbeystead Fell, Bowland, Lancs

N:M43 Lesser Black-backed Gull
Ringed 06.07.22 at Abbeystead Fell, Bowland, Lancs

N:W34 Lesser Black-backed Gull
Ringed 15.07.22 at Walney Island, Cumbria

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Tues 6th Sept

- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM present yet again today, showing well early evening.





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Reply from Mike Jackson today.
Y:685 not seen since it was last here at Redgate early this year.

Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM present this lunchtime.
Not had a reply from the Manx group yet.

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Sat 3rd Sept

- Herring Gull Y:685
No stranger to Redgate this one.


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Reply from Tim Frayling regarding N:81C

Ringed at Bowland, Lancashire 05.07.19 and has been here at Redgate on a few occasions, the only place its been resighted.

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