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Sun 15th Dec
2 hour stint this morning in dim and murky conditions but still some decent birds around. Decent numbers of Argentatus Herring Gulls again but Ive only stated what I could see properly, still many Gulls on BCA roof unaccounted for.

- 2w Caspian Gull again
- 23 Argentatus Herring Gulls on 384 roof & main yard
- Yellow legged Herring Gull probably Argenteus
- Herring Gull Y:992
- 4 Ring-necked Parakeets over
- 2 Redwings over
- Carrion Crow with white wings



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Sat 14th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull again this morning, showing well on 384 roof albeit in poor first light early this morning (7.50am), nice little birthday present smile

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- 20+ adult Great Black-backed Gulls and a nice 1w bird too
- at least 15 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- group of 7 Redwings over towards city centre
- 2 finch-types over, sounded like Lesser Redpoll so Im gonna stick with that
- at least 40 Carrion Crows around


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Thurs 12th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull again, showing well on 384 roof and in flight

- c50+ Argentatus Herring Gulls around the site.
I thought it was a decent count with at least 30 on 384 roof and in the yard, but even more were on BCA roof.

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Tues 10th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull present again.
Spotted it with my bins on 384 roof as soon as I parked up the van but no sooner had I reached for my camera - the whole lot went up due to a gas scarer in the yard.

Also 25-30 Argentatus Herring Gulls

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Sun 8th Dec

- 2w Caspian Gull
Same individual as Thursday, probably not the best example but its got a decent enough look about it. Admittedly there is still some fine streaking to the head and to the flanks which was a concern, the bill had a slightly more defined gonydeal angle than Id like too but I cant help but feel it is a Caspian.

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- adult Yellow-legged Gull couldnt pin it down for a photo
- 2 Ring-necked Parakeets


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Thurs 5th Dec

A very intriguing 2w Gull that I think was a Caspian but unfortunately instead of pressing transfer, I pressed erase and lost the photos. I managed to retrieve them with a special app but they are only as extension files so cant transfer them yet!


Sat 7th Dec
Absolutely diabolical weather at one point mid-morning and not many Gulls around, highlight was a Grey Wagtail.

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Also on Saturday

- JU668 Great Black-backed Gull

Ringed 13.06.09 at Finnmark, Norway.
Also seen 28.05.10 at Moore NR, Warrington.



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Sat 30th Nov
Early morning visit at first light then a late morning visit.

- a cracking Raven over the yard
- 40 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 28 Argentatus Herring Gulls
(Many Gulls unaccounted for in the way of identification as they were asleep on BCA roof so primary patterns not visible and light wasnt the best so probably a lot more)
- 2 ad Common Gulls chasing Black-headed Gulls


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Fri 29th Nov
Probably around 250 large Gulls mid-afternoon.

- 21 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 2 ad Lesser Black-backed Gulls
- easily 30+ Argentatus Herring Gulls
- Black-headed Gull XU42 again


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Few visits during the week.

Tues 26th Nov
- Pete Kinsella & Mark Nightingale were on site, they?d had a 1w Caspian Gull shortly before I arrived early afternoon.

Thurs 28th Nov
- Black-headed Gull XU42
German ringed, at Löbnitz, 10.05.24.
According to the info its a male and is at least a 2CY, appears it was also reported on Tuesday by Pete Kinsella.


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Sun 24th Nov
A 2 hour stint early morning and although there was nothing in the way of rarities, there was a few things of notable interest. Probably c200-250 large Gulls around the site.

- Argentatus Herring Gull with yellow legs
- possibly c50+ Argentatus Gulls
- c120 Black-headed Gulls
- 25+ adult Great Black-backed Gulls
- 4 adult Lesser Black-backed Gulls
- 1w Lesser Black-backed Gulls N:28J & N:46K
.. difficult to tell if LBb or HG with 1w, could be either or

Argentatus Herring Gulls
Obviously winter is the best time for UK Argentatus as numbers increase at various sites and I usually get a few here at Redgate, with around 20+ birds being the most Ive had.
Today I counted 29 individuals which as far as I know surpasses that, BUT I have wondered why its not higher, even though 29 is a good number for this site (I was quite chuffed to be fair) its probably not even a dent in the numbers that some county sites get.
Maybe I was being a bit optimistic as lets not forget its only a smallish site and NOT a ROOST where numbers will be higher. But the case might well be Im not giving them enough credibility in my identification of them. Im letting some individuals go as Argenteus mainly for 2 reasons - I think Im possibly looking for them to have more white on the primaries than whats already evident, and secondly if the mantle looks a bit on the pale side even though its got a good proportion of primary white, and yes I know there is vast variation in both races.

A realisation hit me earlier, and for the reasons given above, its only fair that I conclude there was more individuals present, so I would estimate there couldve been likely 50+ Argentatus today. Its a mistake on my part and I can only apologise for that, but hey ho - it happens.


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Fri 22nd Nov

- 1w Caspian Gull
Different bird to the Redcar Tarn individual a few days ago. Showed well on 384 roof.
- 12 adult Great Black-backed Gulls
- 20+ Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 5 adult Common Gulls


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Thurs 21st Nov

- Lesser Black-backed Gulls N:47J & N:40J
- c150 Black-headed Gulls
- 15+ Argentatus Herring Gulls

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Weds 20th Nov

- 1w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:40J a new one to the site

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Tues 19th Nov

- adult Great Black-backed Gull

Norwegian ringed JE643, ringed as a chick in 2010 Ive had this bird at Redgate a few times in the last few years and so has Dan Gornall.
Theres a long list of Norwegian sightings, but other noteworthy UK sightings include Ashworth Moor Reservoir in Rochdale and Whinney Hill tip near Blackburn.

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What I thought was a decent candidate for an adult Yellow-legged Gull but I only got a glimpse of the open wing primary formula so Im hoping it visits again so I get a chance to properly assess it, for now it will have to be relegated to a pale mantled Lesser Black-backed, a fine looking individual all the same.

- 100+ Black-headed Gulls
- 14 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 4 adult Common Gulls


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I received a comment along with an image (presumably from a Yorkshire birder) on my Twitter in response to my post regarding the 1w Caspian Gull I had here at Redgate on Saturday.
Turns out the same individual was at Redcar Tarn for the last month - image below.


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Sun 17th Nov
Almost a 2 hour stint this morning, plenty of Gulls present but couldnt see anything in the way of a rarity.

Of note..
- 7 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 1w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:47J
- 1 Ring-necked Parakeet
- a single Redwing over

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Sat 16th Nov

- 1w Caspian Gull
Present late morning on 384 roof, then in the yard, but flew off towards BCA roof and not seen since.


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Sun 10th Nov
- 11 Argentatus Herring Gulls

Tues 12th Nov
- 2 Sparrowhawks circling just beyond Hyde Rd
Not many Gulls at all

Thurs 14th Nov
- 6 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 1w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:47J

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Sun 10th Nov
- 11 Argentatus Herring Gulls

Tues 12th Nov
- 2 Sparrowhawks circling just beyond Hyde Rd

Thurs 14th Nov
- 6 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 1w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:47J

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Sat 9th Nov

- adult Caspian Gull mid morning, likely same bird
- adult Yellow-legged Gull possibly 2
- Argenteus Herring Gull with yellowy legs (on Friday)
- 9 Argentatus Herring Gull
- 5 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 12 ad Lesser Black-backed Gulls
- 100+ Black-headed Gulls


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Fri 8th Nov

- adult Caspian Gull early am in bad light

Just been back this afternoon no sign, but of note..
- 15+ ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 12 Argentatus Herring Gulls


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Mon 4th Nov

- 7 Argentatus Herring Gulls

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Sun 3rd Nov

- 2w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:9B3
- 8 Argentatus Herring Gulls

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Fri 1st Nov

- 6 Argentatus Herring Gulls

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Tues 29th Oct

- 5 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 3 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 1st w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:47J
- 3 Common Gulls (2 ad + 1st w)
- 50+ Black-headed Gulls

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Sun 27th Oct

- 1w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:47J
- 1 Grey Wagtail
- 1 Jay


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Thurs 24th Oct

- lovely 1w Common Gull
- 1w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:58V
- 4 Argentatus Herring Gull


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Fri 11th Oct

- 2w Great Black-backed Gull & 2 adults
- 3 Argentatus Herring Gulls

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Tues 8th Oct

- adult Great Black-backed Gull with a somewhat slightly palish mantle providing a bit of contrast with the blacker primaries and its legs appeared to have a slight yellowish hue. Probably nothing unusual to the more experienced Gullers amongst us but I thought it looked a little bit odd


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Sun 6th Oct

- 1w Lesser Black-backed Gull N:58V

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Sat 5th Oct

- Herring Gull Y:685 briefly mid morning
- 4 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 3 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 5 Ring-necked Parakeets
- lots of Woodpigeon on the move, probably 100+ mainly E

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Fri 4th Oct

- Herring Gull Y:685 regular winter visitor here now
- smart looking Argentatus Herring Gull
- 2 adult Great Black-backed Gulls


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Tues 1st Oct
Quick visit after work

- 61 Pink-footed Geese over NE just beyond Hyde Rd
- 5 Ring-necked Parakeets over towards Longsight


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Sun 29th Sept

- sub adult Yellow-legged Gull
(Pretty sure same bird as Thursday)
- Argentatus Herring Gull
- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:47J again

Also 2 Lesser Black-backed Hills hanging around recently showing paler mantles than Id expect, similar hue Yellow-legged Gull mantle, but Ive got them down as LBb

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Thurs 26th Sept

- sub adult Yellow-legged Gull
Still got a few new primaries coming through, showed well in the main yard


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Couple of visits during the week but nothing of note.

Sun 22nd Sept.

- sub adult Yellow-legged Gull
Same bird as 10th & 11th Sept, managed an open wing view of the primary pattern

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Mon 16th Sept

- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:47J early morning


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Sun 15th Sept

- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:5B9
- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:47J

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Thurs 12th Sept

- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:58V

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Weds 11th Sept

- sub adult Yellow-legged Gull briefly late afternoon, same bird as yesterday.

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Tues 10th Sept

- sub adult Yellow-legged Gull
Some slight streaking on the head so I didnt think it was full adult
- Great Black-backed Gull
Massive individual (comparison with Lesser Black-backed) possibly same bird as last week with yellowy legs

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Sun 8th Sept

- 1st year Lesser Black-backed Gull N:5B9


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Sat 7th Sept

- sub adult Yellow-legged Gull on prefabs near 384
- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM

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Thurs 5th & Fri 6th Sept

- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM
- 2 ad Great Black-backed Gulls, one having decidedly yellowish legs

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Also on Weds 4th Sept ?

- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM in yard
- Herring Gull 159:C
- 2 ad Great Black-backed Gulls

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Weds 4th Sept

- 3CY Yellow-legged Gull
Thought it couldve been a sub-adult at first when it was at rest on the 384 roof, but it was clearer to see its moult in flight and it looks like a 3rd year bird to me.
Ill be brutally honest though - it has a yellowish orbital that did spark a slight worry, but I think it looks ok for YLG


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Sun 1st Sept
1st of 2 visits today, early morning.

- adult Yellow-legged Gull
Bit of an unusual looking beast in my opinion but that probably means its absolutely normal. Long gangly yellow legs, good mantle hue, bit of head streaking tho, but we will see.

2nd visit late afternoon whilst United were crumbling, again!!! no

- juvenile Caspian Gull
Very nice bird indeed, firstly just its head showing on the yard roof, then it stood near the roof edge and I noticed it was ringed. But it wasnt until it flew into the yard to feed until I could get a view of the ring, looks like a German yellow ringed bird XMLK. A cracking individual.

The earlier Yellow-legged Gull was also present and showing well in the yard.


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Thurs 29th Aug

- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM again

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Weds 28th Aug

- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM
- LBb in excess of 40 adults and probably more juveniles

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