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RE: Redgate Recycling, Gorton.


Rob Creek wrote:

Mon 4th Dec

- Herring Gull N:26E a year to the day since I last saw it here.





Confirmation email today that it hasnt been seen since 12 months ago here, or at least hasnt been reported if sighted.

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Mon 4th Dec

- Herring Gull N:26E a year to the day since I last saw it here.


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Reply from Steve & Kane for Black-headed Gull 224E

- Ringed 27th January 2022 Sefton Park
- seen September & October 2022 Germany
- seen 7th October 2023 Germany

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Sat 2nd Dec

- Yellow legged Herring Gull on 384
(same bird thats been here recently)
- 2CY Herring Gull 159:C
(another previous visitor)
- c10 Argentatus Gulls


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Fri 1st Dec

- Black-headed Gull 224E
Looks to be one of Steve Christmas/ Kane Brides birds.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Sunday 3rd of December 2023 10:00:39 PM

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- Herring Gull N:05M was ringed at Woodyards, Bowland, Lancs on 05.07.22 so now in its 2nd winter.
- Herring Gull 7X5B looks to be Jez Blackburns so info will be sent over asap

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Mon 27th Nov
Forgot I had some ringed stuff too.

- Herring Gull 159:C orange
- Herring Gull N:05M Green
- Herring Gull 7X5L Yellow

The last one may need clarification on the ring code.


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Mon 27th Nov
Afternoon visit for my lunchbreak, around 200 large Gulls.

- 2nd w Caspian Gull
- 15+ Argentatus Gulls
- 2 Common Gulls

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Sun 26th Nov

- 1st w Caspian Gull on rubbish mound in yard Sunday afternoon. Stayed for about 5 minutes then flew off.
- 8 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 1st w Gull Im unsure of as yet well see


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Fri 24th Nov

- 4 Common Gulls chasing Black-headed Gulls
- 6 Argentatus Herring Gulls
- Yellow legged Herring Gull again
- 2 Grey Wagtails
- 3 Pied Wagtails
- c400 Starlings


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Tues 21st Nov

- 1st w Herring or Lesser Black-backed Gull (prob LBb) sat at the side of the road mid-afternoon. I put my work gloves on and put it on the grass inside the 384 grounds. I was thinking maybe clipped by a car and was just dazed. It didnt half pack a nip whilst handling it, very strong bill grip around my fingers.

I went back to work then called back later, it was still there. Phoned RSPCA - no answer. Phoned at least 4 different numbers for animal shelters - no answer. I sent one a text asking if they come out to wild birds. I got a text back lunchtime next day (Weds) saying phone the main RSPCA control centre. I explained I had already done that but received another text late afternoon saying they were very busy.

It couldve been an injury not readily seen, or it couldve been diseased so I had to leave it. The Gull inevitably perished overnight, before I even got a response from the RSPCA , its corpse is still there.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Sunday 26th of November 2023 09:49:15 PM

-- Edited by Rob Creek on Sunday 26th of November 2023 09:49:44 PM

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Mon 20th Nov

- Thought I had a 1st w Caspian Gull stood on BCA roof but as I reached for my camera the damn thing sat down obscured by the metal structures in their yard so it didnt make for the best photo opportunities.
It looked better whilst it was standing than sat down, but knowing my luck it was probably just a Herring Gull.


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Sun 12th Nov
- 4 Common Gulls around the yard
- Yellow legged Herring Gull
- 5 Argentatus Herring Gulls


Fri 17th Nov
- c230 Pink-footed Geese high E over Redgate Lane
- Yellow legged Herring Gull again
- Jay over the yard


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Sunday 19th of November 2023 09:55:25 AM

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Sat 11th Nov

- 108 Pink-footed Geese over East late afternoon

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Fri 10th Nov

- Yellow legged Herring Gull present again this afternoon.
Same individual as Weds & Fri

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Mon 6th Nov

I had let this one go from Friday due to fading light possibly affecting colouration.
- Yellow legged Argenteus Herring Gull. Got a much better view of the legs this time, superficially at first I thought it could be Argentatus with its proportion of head streaking but Argenteus can show this much too. The mantle looked a tad pale and the primary pattern looked to be deficient of white and wasnt quite right. Smart looking bird though!

(The bluer image is from Friday)


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Fri 3rd Nov
- 5 ad Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 3 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 2 ad Lesser Black-backed Gulls
- 1 Grey Wagtail

Sat 4th Nov
- 6 ad Argentatus Herring Gulls
- 2 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 2 ad Lesser Black-backed Gulls

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Few visits late week and over the weekend but although there was quite a few Gulls, there was nothing much of note apart from Herring Gull Y:685 on Sunday morning and then again this afternoon, Tuesday.

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Tues 24th Oct.
Afternoon visit on way back from Liverpool.

- 1st w Herring Gull 159:C again
- adult Herring Gull Y:685
- at least 4 Argentatus Herring Gulls

- and a possible shout for 1st w Yellow-legged Gull but by no means certain.
The security guard at 384 threw a load of bread out and it was Gull chaos as they are behind the railings, so viewing was difficult. The bird had orangey yellow legs which were quite noticeable.



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Rob Creek wrote:

Mon 9th Oct

- N:85Y present again. Could well be a Herring Gull and not a Lesser Black-backed.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Monday 9th of October 2023 09:17:50 PM





Received a reply from Tim Frayling.

Lesser Black-backed Gull N:85Y
Ringed at Langden Head, Bowland, Lancs.
These are the first sightings since ringed as a chick 04.07.23

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Rob Creek wrote:

Reply from Roisin Mary Kearney.

Lesser Black-backed Gull 159:C was ringed as a chick 01.07.23 at Copeland Bird Obs on Lighthouse Island, Co.Down, Northern Ireland.
This is the first re-sighting of it.





Received another email from Roisin.
This bird is actually a Herring Gull.

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Tues 17th Oct
A quick hour (as they say) after work, and an interesting one at that.

- 1st w Lesser Black-backed Gull, orange 159:C N.Ireland
- Lesser Black-backed Gull pale green K+N
- adult Herring Gull with green ring, missed the number
- 4 Grey Wagtails
- 1 Pied Wagtail

- and then just as I was about to leave a red ringed 1st w Herring Gull or Lesser Black-backed landed on the 384 roof but it was displaced by another Gull and flew off, missed the number. Could be from absolutely anywhere, France, Germany, Poland, UK, Sweden, Netherlands etc etc ??

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Reply from Roisin Mary Kearney.

Lesser Black-backed Gull 159:C was ringed as a chick 01.07.23 at Copeland Bird Obs on Lighthouse Island, Co.Down, Northern Ireland.
This is the first re-sighting of it.

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Sun 15th Oct

So far this morning
- Lesser Black-backed Gull orange 159:C (Irish)
- 1 Rook over
- 1 Grey Wagtail
- 4 Redwings with 1 Fieldfare
- c350-400 Starling
- 1 f Sparrowhawk over the yard but was swiftly chased off

No sign of yesterdays 3W Caspian or Yellow-legged Gull but forgot to mention we had 6 Redwing over yesterday morning. I was telling Lucas to listen to the flight call as they flew over, hes only ever heard them when its dark.


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Also this morning?

- probable 2nd winter Yellow-legged Gull.
Certainly looks ok for this species and it will be submitted as usual, I think it is one.


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Reply from Pete Rock.
Lesser Black-backed Gull K+N seen here again last week has never been seen anywhere else except Redgate, apart from when it was ringed in Bath. Pete thinks this one looks to have dispensed with migration altogether.


Reply from Tim Frayling.
Lesser Black-backed Gull N:0C9 from 21.09.23 was ringed on Bowland Fells, Lancs, 29.06.23 and is the first re-sighting of it.


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Sat 14th Oct

- A very nice 3rd winter Caspian Gull this morning,

You could say it was showing rather well, on 384 roof and in the yard but was sometimes obscured by the sun. A cracking bird this one. I was in 2 minds at first whether it was a 2nd winter or 3rd winter but I think its a 3rd. If it needs altering then Ill gladly do so.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Saturday 14th of October 2023 01:54:57 PM

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Images of the possible 2CY Yellow-legged Gull from weekend.
This will be submitted as although Im not certain it is one, I think it is and deserves a submission.


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Mon 9th Oct

- N:85Y present again. Could well be a Herring Gull and not a Lesser Black-backed.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Monday 9th of October 2023 09:17:50 PM

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Reply from Carlos M. regarding Lesser Black-backed Gull N:M2T from 6th September.


Larus Fuscus.
Ringed as a juv coming into its 1st winter 16.10.22.
Los Ruices, nr Valencia.
Seen 09.08.23 Cotesbach, Lutterworth, nr Rugby.
Then 06.09.23 here at Redgate.

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Today.

Thought I was seeing things for a moment this afternoon but Im pretty sure they were what they were.
- 6 Redwings towards the city centre and 2 larger trailing birds that looked like elongated Blackbirds, pretty sure they were Ring Ouzels, they were quite high up and camera wouldnt perform!

- possible 2CY Yellow-legged Gull again
- Lesser Black-backed Gull N:85Y again
- c6-700 Starling. Shouldve heard the noise in the yard.
- 1 Grey Wagtail & 1 Pied Wagtail

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Not much at Redgate this last week apart from a few Ring-necked Parakeets here and there. This weekend was a bit more lively.

Saturday.
- Lesser Black-backed Gull K+N
- Lesser Black-backed Gull (?) N:85Y
- c300 Starling
- 2 Grey Wagtail
- possible 2CY Yellow-legged Gull


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Sunday 8th of October 2023 09:34:27 PM

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Tues 26th Sept (also Weds 27th and Thurs 28th)

- Norwegian ringed JL78C
I initially thought an odd Herring Gull, the data comes back as Herring Gull but there are features that better fit Lesser Black-backed.

Ringed 28.06.23 Soldaterholmen, Ulv°ysund, Lillesand, Aust-Agder, Norway


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Very disappointing this last week here, with probably no more than 15-20 large Gulls at any one time, 3 visits over weekend but no change.

Thurs 21st Sept.
Early morning visit before Cornwall.

- Immature Gull with green ring. The code looks like K0C9 but just not 100% nor on species, obviously difficult to separate between Herring Gull or Lesser Black-backed at this age.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Friday 22nd of September 2023 12:29:33 PM

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Weds 13th Sept

- Herring Gull Y:685 this afternoon
- one of those Lesser Black-backed (?) types with an odd bluey grey mantle hue


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Wednesday 13th of September 2023 08:49:44 PM

-- Edited by Rob Creek on Wednesday 13th of September 2023 08:50:21 PM

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Sat 9th Sept

- Lesser Black-backed Gull K+N
- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM


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Weds 6th Sept

- probable adult Yellow-legged Gull
- Lesser Black-backed Gull (?) N:M2T
(white ring, likely Spanish but possibility of being Swedish)
- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM still


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Couple of visits over weekend but hot sun meant that what Gulls were there were resting and couldnt be properly viewed in strong light and heat haze.

Tues 5th Sept.
- Herring Gull Y-685 called in for a visit, seen briefly in yard but flew off to BCA roof.

-- Edited by Rob Creek on Thursday 7th of September 2023 11:52:16 AM

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- 1st summer Caspian Gull 1.B
Took Lucas to see his 6th (I think?) Caspian Gull while we still had time before going in work. I re-found the bird at 11.10am asleep on BCA roof, it stood up a few times giving decent views then just casually walked over the apex onto the Kirkmanshulme Lane side of the roof.

No sign in a 2 hour stint this evening after work.

Of note..
- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM Manx ringed
- Lesser Black-backed Gull K+N Bath ringed
- another 34 ad Lesser Black-backed Gulls
- 5 ad Great Black-backed Gulls
- 8 Black-headed Gulls


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Tues 29th Aug

- 1st summer Caspian Gull
Dutch ringed 1.B early morning but mobile and elusive. Nice looking bird now with the whitening head and underwing.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Tuesday 29th of August 2023 12:45:27 PM

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Fri 25th Aug

- probable intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull



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Tues 22nd Aug

- Yellow-legged Gull this afternoon. Same individual with the orangey legs thats been a couple of times recently.
- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM again after a week
- Argentatus Gull with some brown (primary?) feathers


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Sat 19th Aug
- adult Yellow-legged Gull present but mobile

Sun 20th Aug
- adult Yellow-legged Gull in main yard, afternoon
- 7 Black-headed Gulls
- 1 Sparrowhawk over


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Fri 18th Aug.

- adult Yellow-legged Gull in main yard at teatime.
- possible 2nd summer Caspian Gull

Im certainly not 100% with the Caspian, knowing me Ive got it wrong and its a Herring Gull with dark eyes, but a nice looking Gull all the same.


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Quick update.

Manx ringed Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM was here at Redgate again on Sunday 13th and Monday 14th August but no sign since.

Also a reply from Pete Rock who wonders if Lesser Black-backed K+N has dispensed with migration since there are no records at all from abroad?


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Mon 14th Aug

- Yellow-legged Gull
Not quite full adult bird, again its got wishy washy legs but a different bird with its darker eye and different primary pattern to the recent bird. Bears a resemblance to the individual seen at the end of July, could well be same bird actually.


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Sat 12th Aug

- adult Yellow-legged Gull present again on 384 roof and in yard.
Was there this morning and afternoon, its the same bird as yesterday.

- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM again on 384 roof, probably around 60 individuals of this species
- 9 Black-headed Gulls (a rarity here nowadays!)
- 1 Sparrowhawk

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Fri 11th Aug

- adult Yellow-legged Gull in the yard (pm).
Nice looking bird but the legs were a bit wishy washy. It will be submitted as always.

- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM present again and a reply yesterday from Mark Fitzpatrick of the Manx ringing group revealed its not been seen since last August and September when it was here at Redgate.


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Weds 2nd Aug
- Lesser Black-backed Gull K+N again


Weds 9th Aug
- Lesser Black-backed Gull T0XM (Manx ringed) returning bird


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Fri 28th July..
Flying Ant day.

- probable Lesser Black-backed Gull intermedius
- c50 Lesser Black-backed Gulls
- C60+ Swift, a handful of Sand Martins and Swallows, and around 20 Black-headed Gulls all
quite high up all feeding on the glut of flying ants.


Sat 29th July.
Morning and afternoon visit.

- 4CY Yellow-legged Gull present but elusive.
- c100 Lesser Black-backed Gulls (40+ on 384 roof)
- possible intermedius again
- 40+ Swifts with 2 Swallows still feeding on the ants high up

- probable 2 intermedius on 22nd July too, forgot to post it.


-- Edited by Rob Creek on Sunday 30th of July 2023 11:11:03 AM

-- Edited by Rob Creek on Sunday 30th of July 2023 09:24:50 PM

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