I assume that it was you and a friend that I put on to the Waxwings this lunchtime?
had I realised, I would have thanked you for the offer of help in D & G which I wasn't able to take advantage of but was much appreciated all the same.
Waxwings showing very well and are dotted all around the estate, probably c30 in all but singletons all over the place. Light good for photography too!
There are 20/30 waxwings at least on the Ordsall Estate,possibly a lot more.There are numerous ornamental Rowan Trees around the estate,the birds should be around for a good few days.Access is via Goodiers Drive off Regent Road.As Ian mentioned best take care here(probably best to watch from car),certainly DONT leave anything on show if leaving your car unattended.
small numbers of waxings now present (simultaneously) along pheobe street, ordsall estate off regent road (please be careful in this area!) and mcready drive near the regent road roundabout at 12:20
Certainly was interesting behaviour Sid. What I realise now is that we should have checked both birds at the time to assess what sex and age they were. This would have taken a lot of the guessing out of what I might now do! Pair bonding? Progeny feeding? Altruism?
I was watching a couple of birds doing this in Barrow a few weeks ago. Apparently, it's a type of social bonding within the flock. Sometimes several birds are involved, with a berry being passed from one bird to the next before one individual eventually eats it.
Certainly was interesting behaviour Sid. What I realise now is that we should have checked both birds at the time to assess what sex and age they were. This would have taken a lot of the guessing out of what I might now do! Pair bonding? Progeny feeding? Altruism?
A thought just occurred to me as they do - when we were watching the Waxwings we both noted that one bird appeared to be feeding another bird with a berry and we both thought this perhaps a little unusual given the normal feeding frenzy of these birds. Did you think any more as to what this may have been about and have any other forum members seen this happening with Waxwings or are there any suggestions/comments.
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Henry Cook wrote:
Many thanks for telling us about this flock Pete. It took a fair while for decent numbers of Waxwings to show on Comus Street of Regent Road in Salford but the numbers kept on rising whilst we were there. A feeding frenzy not quite like i've ever seen before, a very enjoyable spectacle with Waxwings being in the minority to a good 60+ Mistle Thrushes, 50+ Starlings, 3 Fieldfares, 5 Redwings, 2 Blackbirds, 1 Goldcrest, 2 Goldfinch, 1 Dunnock, 1 House Sparrow and the trusty Feral Pigeons! Most of them feeding on just one small berry-laden tree. With this lot about the berries wont last too long though! Thanks. Henry.
Re: Lansdowne Road, Chadderton. Accordingn to both Riggers And Bill M. the trees there are already berry-less except for the orange ones that the waxwings doint seem to like.
I have had a look on the database for recent years' records of Waxwings, for sites not already mentioned, that might be worth checking; here they are below: Ashton-u-Lyne: Katharine St, Bentinck St, ASDA, Cavendish St, Park PArade. ASDA, Astley Bridge Bolton. Topp Way, Bolton (yellow berries) - none left in the town centre Buckley Wood Rochdale Cale Green Park Ogden St Castleton ZETEC, Lansdown Rd Chadderton (well worth a check, lots of trees here and a very good track record) Drake St Rochdale Bellfield Av Cheadle Hulme Oakwood School, Darley Ave, Chorlton Mercian Way, Stockport Greenacres Cemetery Oldham Norris Lane, Heaton Norris Hulme - Fenwick St Sackville St/Whitworth St corner - tiny park Cheapside, ALDI, Eastway - all in Middleton where I have heard a whisper of 6 recently White City retail park, Old Trafford Supertots, Edenfield Rd Oulder Hill secondary school Royton - retail park at the bottom of the A627M Sholver - Leywell Dr St John's Estate, Offerton Stretford metro station, and Victoria Park, also avenues off King's Rd near cricket ground with cricket-y names Grosvenor Rd primary school, Swinton Shaftesbury Ave Timperley Toyota Garage Tonge Fold Bolton Taunton Ave and Tintern Close, West Didsbury Woodley shopping precinct Wythenshawe hospital and Roundthorn Ind Est.
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I have seen two flocks of Waxwings flying over Liverpool street in Salford today heading towards Regent road.
First group of 11 birds at 10.10am this morning and another flock of 7 birds at 14.45pm. The birds were coming from the direction of the rail tracks [ no access] between Liverpool street and Salford Crescent.
Just had a call from a friend of mine who works in the city centre - there were stlll 8 - 9 birds on and around Duncan Street/Comus Street trees in the gathering gloom at just after 3 o'clock. Still berrys left on the tree.
Many thanks for telling us about this flock Pete. It took a fair while for decent numbers of Waxwings to show on Comus Street of Regent Road in Salford but the numbers kept on rising whilst we were there. A feeding frenzy not quite like i've ever seen before, a very enjoyable spectacle with Waxwings being in the minority to a good 60+ Mistle Thrushes, 50+ Starlings, 3 Fieldfares, 5 Redwings, 2 Blackbirds, 1 Goldcrest, 2 Goldfinch, 1 Dunnock, 1 House Sparrow and the trusty Feral Pigeons! Most of them feeding on just one small berry-laden tree. With this lot about the berries wont last too long though! Thanks. Henry.
I was at Comus st this morning in the gloom between 8.15 and 8.30 and saw approx 30 waxwings -they were hard to count because they kept coming and going, and were constantly being harassed by the masses of Mistle Thrushes (50+, never seen so many together). The waxwings were mainly in the taller tree on Duncan St, near the berry bush. I also heard but didnt see several waxwings in flight as I filled up at the nearby Sainsburys petrol station.
Henry Cook and I were there from 10.15 until about 11.
We had 14 Waxies at one time - they did keep coming and going so if anyone wants to nip over there during lunch just be patient. Thanks to Pete for the report.
Henry will post a fuller report I think to include our quick wet visit to Chorlton Water Park
Sid A
Chris Roberts wrote:
Quick trip out of office, visited Comus street at 11.25, as with Rob Smallwood no sign of Waxwings. Mistle Thrush flock had increased to 60+ birds and there appeared to be more on the adjoining buildings. No sign of Waxwings in surounding area.
Quick trip out of office, visited Comus street at 11.25, as with Rob Smallwood no sign of Waxwings. Mistle Thrush flock had increased to 60+ birds and there appeared to be more on the adjoining buildings. No sign of Waxwings in surounding area.
The lone berry bush is nearly stripped, unsurprising as there were in excess of 40 Mistle Thrushes there this morning, along with a number of Starling, but no sign of any Waxwing.
Trees that attract Waxwings traditionally have Mistle Thrushes guarding them, but this was one of the bigger congregations that I remember seeing.
Hopefully the flock will be re-found nearby, I doubt that this food source will last the day out.
Nice one Phil - don't think that Birdguides or Birdnet will get too worried about the GM forum stealing their business for the "latest news" section (wink wink don't know how to put those little men on a post)
Phil Owen wrote:
Apparently, accordinging to a friend who is also a birder, there were some Waxwings about a month ago on Woodhouse Lane in Wythenshawe.
5 Waxwings flushed from the Creek at Elton at 9.37am flew towards wader point.... calls were then heard from that area but the birds couldnt be re-located
Can't think of anywhere off the top of my head in Northenden or Wythenshawe to check however I seem to recall Shaftesbury Avenue in Timperley as being a place where they were sighted in the past???
Yep that was me. Could be worth checking any Rowans around Northendon / Wythenshawe / Timperly or maybe they carried on further. Maybe the Oldham birds heading south, could've been 19, although they do have a habit of splitting up, rejoining, multiplying and disappearing. They just went straight over the wardens compound heading south. I heard the call, looked up, there they are, one, two three etc, there they go.
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The second species I recorded on my TTV today at Winstanley, was a single Waxwing in a row of hawthorns on Holmes Haouse Ave, nr Tan Pit Cottages. Unfortunately it flew off almost straight away, moving E.
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Ive just come back from the Oldham site. 19 of them at approx 3.45pm. They were at the top of the large tree near that security guards cabin just past the car parks. At 4pm they all flew off.
I'm gutted now... I too, armed with my camera, made the pilgrimage to Oldham and braved the fog on the M60 yesterday morning and couldn't find them. I thought they must have moved on, especially after hearing that the ringers had been at work the day before.
Perhaps I was there a little early for them? (7.30-8.30am)
Anthony
sorry you missed them Anthony,we got there approx' 12.30.....
I'm gutted now... I too, armed with my camera, made the pilgrimage to Oldham and braved the fog on the M60 yesterday morning and couldn't find them. I thought they must have moved on, especially after hearing that the ringers had been at work the day before.
Perhaps I was there a little early for them? (7.30-8.30am)
Has anybody over the years seen or heard anything about the waxwings that have been known to feed close to bolton fire station. Well if the trees that they feed on are along the perimeter of the car park adjacent to the fire station then the birds will have to find food elsewhere this year. having kept an eye on the place for the last 2 or 3 weeks i had a right shock this afternoon [ 2.45 ] to see contractors halfway through chopping down the 40 or so trees, a good few full of berries . Is it worth a complaint to the council.
15 birds still showing well and "trilling" near the Grange Arts Centre, Oldham at 11.00 am today. Also in the area 3 Redwing and 1 Goldcrest.
Had a quick check on the way home at Lansdowne Rd, Chadderton - a site where I think Waxwings have turned up in the past - not too many berries - 3 Mistle Thrushes were guarding trees with yellow berries - no sign of any Waxwings though.
AMAZING!! finally saw these stunning little birds today and they really are beautiful.l couldn't take my eyes off them,they kinda remind me of an over made up lady....Molly Sugden type Their bodies are smooth and immaculate,(just like they look in books)their head,wings and the crest are unbelievable,was great to hear their calls,very distinctive and different.l wanna see more........ Great day,luv birds me Nice to meet Mike K and Geoff H whilst there.
Made the pilgrimage up to oldham about 13.00 birds were showing well with some smashing views in the sunshine,a cracking bird added to my county,life list.This sort of twitch is only possible with the help of contributors to the forum so a big fat thankyou.Alderson st is were i parked atoz 74 7c sat nav ol9 6dy and if your really lucky you won,t have to get out of the car to tickem.nice seeing simon and mike with WAGS? cheers geoff
Better than yesterday afternoon. No fog at 11.50 this morning - in fact brilliantly clear! Great views of about 11+ birds in a tall, bare tree near the Grange Arts Centre by junction of Alderson Street and the main road. Just listen for the calls.
Oldham birds flew south out of the college grounds around 15.00, circled a couple of times in the area of Oldham 6th Form College/ St. Pat's R.C. Church (Union St. West) then lost to view. Not re-located in the following half-hour.
The birds were quite low (about rooftop height) on their 2nd circuit and MAY have gone to roost in the conifers on the edge of the former Perriquito Hotel site on Middleton Road.
13 still around at 10.30 Moving around a lot and not being aloud to settle in the middle of the college by Mistle Thrush and Redwing already on the berrys Managed some fantastic views Nice to meet up with Gordon Yates and Andrew
13 still present this morning hanging around the trees next to grange arts centre at oldham college. Fantastic views . What a cracking life tick for me.
also had 30 or so pinkfooted geese over 1 gold crest 10 long tail tits bluet tits and gret tits as well as various thrushes.
nice to meet you graham and thanks for letting me look through your scope for even better views
Paul,a bit vague that one,have they been netted?? are they still there??have they been given directions to wigan??I,m going up to oldham in the morning on the off chance they,ll still be in the area,my veiws on ringing may well be clouded at the moment,but i,ll call in and visit 'elton, dark side of the moon' while i,m up there so it won,t be a wasted trip if i dip the waxwings.
Stunning views this morning and that trill is the most wonderful sound, especially when you have been chasing the little blighters for weeks, and many thanks to the ringers there this morning for letting me help.
15 were on rowans outside Oldham College, next to the central library, in Oldham town centre all day today. One died and is in a freezer. Very likely to be there tomorrow - this is a regular site for them.
-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Wednesday 21st of November 2012 03:14:44 PM
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