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RE: Other Manchester City Centre birds


Soaring Peregrines (and Kestrels) have a very different shape when soaring Kath and could fit your description but Sparrowhawk is also a distinct possibility. Buzzard would display a distinctly and deeply 'fingered' appearance to the primaries (outermost part of the wing- forgive me if you already understand what primaries are ).

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I was in Picadilly gardens at 1pm yesterday. The usually gangs of pigeons were on the old Woolworths roof, statues & bits of grass when they all took to the air. A large bird of prey was above us. I thought it might have been one of the peregrines but it looked bigger, its shape was not of a peregrine & I could see distinctive colours under it's wings. The wings were more rounded & the tail more fanned. It made no attempt to dive at the pigeons & just swirled above us in the warm sunshine. Much higher up in the air was a peregrine. This went on for about ten mins then everything went quiet. Have we now got Buzzards in the city? I see that one was seen in the Northern Quarter in Feb.

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1.15pm above the Lowry without binoculars.

5 Buzzards circling very high slowly drifting south ish, brought to my attention by one of the peregrines busy mobbing them calling constantly.

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That's a refreshingly pleasing and encouraging attitude Luke as like you say, it's very easy to try too hard to convince ourselves sometimes and at the end of the day we've just got to let some sightings we can't fully nail go

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Rob Smallwood wrote:

Med Gulls tend to wander about this time of year and could turn up anywhere, I always think that the wings look quite rounded and broad compared to B-h, but their flight tends to be stronger. Worth keeping a look out for it.

I spend each winter day trying to turn the B-h gulls outside the Lowry Hotel into Bonarparte's, will now check them for Med's too!






Like I say it was difficult as it was over the other side of the road. Thinking back it did seem quite 'rounded' but I suppose you can try too hard to convince yourself haha. The white pale wings was the thing that stood out to me but I guess I'll never know.

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Mark Whalley wrote:

Not sure it counts as a City centre bird spot but I travel to Sale every morning on the tram and this morning as I was passing the triangle of land between the canal and the river, on the right, just after the tram leaves Cornbrook there was a lapwing chasing off a pair of crows.






Mark - thats Pomona - there is a speerate thread on the forum for it, put Pomona in the search facility. Well worth keeping an eye on this area.

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Med Gulls tend to wander about this time of year and could turn up anywhere, I always think that the wings look quite rounded and broad compared to B-h, but their flight tends to be stronger. Worth keeping a look out for it.

I spend each winter day trying to turn the B-h gulls outside the Lowry Hotel into Bonarparte's, will now check them for Med's too!

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Quick question... What's the likelihood of a Med Gull finding itself in Manchester city centre? Saw a single gull from my work window today, never came close enough to get full details, but it appeared to have no black in its primaries at all, was very pale and and had a funny awkward flight pattern.

I'm no expert on Med Gulls and the only one have seen was not an adult, but it seemed distinctively different.

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Not sure it counts as a City centre bird spot but I travel to Sale every morning on the tram and this morning as I was passing the triangle of land between the canal and the river, on the right, just after the tram leaves Cornbrook there was a lapwing chasing off a pair of crows.

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Sparrowhawk over Bridgewater Hall 16.10

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20+ pied wagtails gathering in tree off Piccadilly Gardens yesterday evening (1830ish)

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A Buzzard was circling high over the Northern Quarter for about five minutes around 16:00 today, drifting gradually northward.

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Group of about 30+ Mistle thrush congregating in trees around Upper Brook street this morning.

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River Irwell (city centre): Peregrine flew through, Little grebe on river, as well as 4 Moorhen, 2 Mallard, 2 Canada geese and c20 Black headed gull.

Also Mistle thrush, 2 Blue tit, Wood pigeons and Magpies.

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Grey Wagtail on window ledge on Soap Street this morning.

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4.30pm Sparrowhawk hunting the pied wagtails from Peter House then from the roof of New Town Hall Building.

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2 Mallards and about 10 BH Gulls lunchtime - Lowry Bridge

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20th December.

Around the Blackfriars Bridge area of the Irwell at approx. 9.40 am.

8 Tufted Duck (4m,4f), 3 Goosander (2m,1f) and 1 Teal (1m). biggrin.gif

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Little gebe on Irwell near Victoria rail bridge.

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2 Little Grebe on the R. Irwell next to Ramada Hotel this afternoon

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On the periphery - a Kingfisher on the R Medlock behind Ardwick youth club on Palmerston St on Monday 22nd. (info from Tony Groom)



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There is a pre-roost forming on the buildings opposite The Lowry Hotel on thr Mcr side of the river, may be a staging post on the way in to St Ann's square perhaps.

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Estimate about 50 pied wagtails flying around St Anne's Square, Deansgate area.

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I came out of work late afternoon today to see the outline of a Harrier sp flying high, but looking to be descending and heading west.

It was in to the sun and I had no optics so no detail I'm afraid.

Best I can say is that it looked fairly hefty so I'm ruling out Monty's unless someone picks one up on Astley Moss tomorrow!

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The patch of grass outside the new Council HQ (One First Street), has been colonised by about a dozen Canada Geese. It's nice to see them in this new context - they look superb in repose and quite comical when they waddle in pairs down the pathways, without so much as a by-your-leave for the people walking alongside them.

Am hoping for some winter thrushes on the patch once the season turns!

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7th Oct 4.40pm :About 20 pied wags flew down the centre of Deansgate with a sparrowhawk in the middle of them.

-- Edited by Adrian Dancy on Friday 8th of October 2010 01:17:23 AM

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There seemed to be Robins everywhere after the downpour - never thought there would be a big movement of that species at this time of year (but I have been known to be wrong!)

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Humdinger of a storm over the City Centre at the moment - hopefully the trees and bushes will be alive with grounded migrants once it clears up!

In the meantime a redhead Goosander on the Irwell outside the Lowry Hotel this morning and Peregrines seem to be showing more than they have in recent weeks.

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Cormorant & Grey Heron on/beside River Irwell underneath Victoria Station bridge this a.m.

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2 corvids that just flew through the City Centre alighting briefly on No 1 Deansgate were almost cetainly Ravens.

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I live behind Piccadilly Station and my niger seed feeder is emptied every 3/4 days by the large number of Goldfinches feeding on it. Record Count so far is 6 either on the feeder or waiting in line in the fence.

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Another Juv Goldfinch collect today in the town centre.

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Must have been a good Goldfinch breeding season in the Town centre, picked up another juv Goldfinch from the Lowery Hotel today.

The ledges on this hotel have been used by Peregrines recently,roosting and feeding on there


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Collected a juvenile Goldfinch from the Hilton Hotel on Deansgate today, should make a good recovery.

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2 Mute Swans with 3 cygnets on canal extension behind Ancoats retail park.

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Kestrels in the Piccadilly Basin have had just one chick that fledged in the last day or two. Given the time span from when I saw the dead female kestrel on the Town Hall roof it would seem that it must have been another female bird.

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A family party of Blue Tits in the trees near the Triangle today c8 birds.

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Whitethroat singing from buddleia in Boddington's car park this morning 6:45

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From the Peregrine stand today, we were treated to views of a stunning male Grey Wagtail, they were doing some work on top of the Printworks creating some disturbance.

Also saw two Mistle Thrushes, Lesser Black Backed Gull, Swift and Woodpigeon, oops forgot the 2 Blue Tits.

-- Edited by Karen Foulkes on Friday 14th of May 2010 08:53:35 PM

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It seems a mistle thrush fledged today and spent some time perched on the chrome barrier separating cappuchino drinkers from the highway. People taking pictures with PAS cameras and mobile phones. I stuck around to make sure it didn't end up on the road. It didn't , it managed to fly up to 'Next' where it was fed by parent still attracting a lot of attention by the public. I saw another bird being fed in the nest. Mistle thrushes don't half like precarious nesting sites. Whether my pictures are any good remains to be seen.

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11th May.

A single fledgling Blackbird was perched on a balcony in the Shudehill area early this afternoon. I could hear the male adult close by giving out those short, very high- pitched squeaky distress calls that they sometimes do when alarm/danger is present, presumably because a Magpie was perched on the apex of a roof, not that far away from the young bird?

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Hi Tom Willis,

I read about your prblem with the thrushes; I sent you a PM and hope this is of help.
Kind Regards,
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It appears they have also nested closer elsewhere , I found another nest this evening after watching a juvy spend most of its evening in a tree pit outside Next opposite the triange. Poor thing couldn't find much to eat and after two hours finally flew onto the lawns adj to Urbis when it managed to find a kiddies gum to eat which I discouraged it from, then it found a bit of peach. An adult that was feeding chicks at the near location robbed it then when finished flew off. I reunited the fledgling with its peach.

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They'll probably be the Mistle Thrushes which bred in Victoria Station.

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Beautiful pair of thrushes (think mistle!) gathering food on the grass between Chetham's and Urbis, on Friday and yesterday.

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Unsuccessful attempt to spot black redstarts in the northern quarter area on Saturday morning. Only sighting of note was a thrush (I really struggle to tell the difference between mistle/song) singing from the top of a building on Dale St.

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Black redstart on building on Lever Street opposite bus stops and siding onto Back Piccadilly. All other areas covered but no sitings.

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Black Redstart singing on top of Debenham's this morning (information from Dave Steel). Also one reported near Victoria Station yesterday ( via RSPB staff who presumably are doing the Peregrine watch)

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Blackcap singing in the rain this lunchtime in tall trees by Bridge Street bridge near the Markaddy(not sure how good a record this is for the centre..)

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Watched a pair of goldfinches from Piccadilly station this morning - flying between Star and Garter and the station.

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