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Ian McKerchar


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Infact the use of the extent of white on the forehead of Hoactli as a seperating feature is unreliable due to overlap with our European Night Heron, more useful seems to be the colour of the base of the bare parts (in breeding plumage) with Hoactli having duller bare parts (salmon-pink) and our European Night Heron reddish legs and lores in the peak of it's breeding season.

Though I have to say it isn't an area of expertise for me wink.gif




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dave broome wrote:

I hear that the Night Heron is considered to be an American-race bird?





To quote `The Handbook Of Bird Identification` (Beaman & Madge) ;-

"N.American race (hoactli) suspected to occur as a vagrant, and a small feral population of this race established at Edinburgh Zoo ; adults may be distinguished by having more extensive white patch on forehead and a shorter and thinner white supercillium."

Strangely `The North American Bird Guide` (Sibley) does not refer to hoactli at all, just giving the scientific name as the same as `ours`, ie - Nycticorax nycticorax (nominate race)

Chris Galvin, among others, has taken some decent shots of the bird (posted on Surfbirds) so, take a look and then decide ! wink.gif

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I hear that the Night Heron is considered to be an American-race bird?

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Ian Woosey wrote:

I think you`re mistaken there Dean wink.gif...................it can`t have been me............ I don`t venture into Lancashire, and I most definitely don`t go twitching !bleh.gif





Must've been a Lancashire look-a-likewink.gifwink.gif

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GREAT BIRD LIFER FOR MEbiggrin.gifHAVING DIPPED ON IT A FEW WEEKS AGO WAS WELL CHUFFED.

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I think you`re mistaken there Dean wink.gif...................it can`t have been me............ I don`t venture into Lancashire, and I most definitely don`t go twitching !bleh.gif

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Night Heron today from Cyril Gibbons hide showing really well and it actually movedwink.gif
Also seen from path behind trees. A closer view from here but a bit obscured by branches.

Nice Little Grebe close up. Only other birds of note were 2 Red Legged Partridge and a few Stock Doves in with the wood pigeons.

Nice to see you again Mr Woosey.

Cheers Dean.

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morning visit
water rail showing well on bird feeder
about a dozen reed buntings
nuthatch on feeder by picnic area
1 great spotted pecker
all the usual tits
jays being mobbed by very teritorial crows
excellent watching great crested grebes displaying and giving one another pieces of weed.
plenty teal on the frozen water along with tufties and mallard.
the cappacino isnt bad either out the drinks machinebiggrin.gif

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Had a peek today, early afternoon. The light was terrible, looking straight into the sun and the bird is roosting back on and head down - not very exciting. Best to try early morning. The car park is locked at 5pm so I would assume the hides are also - so no chance of catching it coming to life.

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night heron at mere sands wood from the gibbons hide today

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Saturday 12th of March 2011 03:55:15 PM

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