I've had Orange Underwings in my garden on occasions, they're usually hiding in ivy or other dense foliage. Their bodies seem thicker than most butterflies though.
However, the ones seen around Neumanns were flying 10-15ft above the ground, so there was no way to judge their structure, but they seemed quite delicate and similar in size to Small Copper.
Habitat, season and everything else is spot on for Orange Underwings, so that's a first for 2013 tick, we just need the moth eaters to fly in now and kick start spring.
I think Ben is probably right. Are you confusing Orange Underwing (which is small-ish and emerges from hibernation March/April) with Large Yellow Underwing (Largish, flies later in the year and often hides in Ivy just as you decribe).
Cheers, John
-- Edited by John Rayner on Wednesday 3rd of April 2013 06:53:08 PM
Hi John The small brown butterflies will be Orange Underwing moths. Worth looking out for amongst birch trees - the caterpillar's foodplant. Cheers Ben
15 Lapwing (The first I've seen on here for quite a while), 1 female Pintail, a pair of Oystercatchers plus the usual waterfowl.
Another of those small brown butterflies, I reported two seen in my last report, was fluttering around the South bank.
None of these insects landed so I was unable to ID them.
According to online data no brown butterflies this small should be flying so early in the year, and with todays icy Easterly blowing definitely not.
It seems likely then that they're a kind of moth that in flight look very much akin to a butterfly, I'd love to know their exact species though?.
Haydn Pool
3 Buzzards, 8 Gadwall, 5 Shovelers plus the usual waterfowl.
With the Buzzard trio soaring over together the prospective Black Headed Gulls looked very agitated, one vented its anxiety out on a Canada Geese, and took several nasty pecks at the tail of the goose.
A large flock of Redwing were feeding in the plantation on the North side, until flushed by a Buzzard.
Sunny but chilly wind, it gave me the flu, hence the late post.
Ashtons Flash
3 Curlew, 4 Common Gulls in the Black Head flock.
Neumanns Flash
2 small brown butterflies around the hide on the south bank, unsure of the species as they did'nt settle, but same size as skipper or Small Copper.
Lots of Winter Gnats dancing near this hide too, so at least the insect eaters have a chance.
22 Mute Swans, 16 Teal and a pair each of Herring and Great Black Backed Gulls. The water level is still high, so no scrape.
Haydn Pool
6 pairs of Black Headed Gulls seem to be settling in, but no sign of hirundines anywhere.
A Buzzard was sat on the Stock Doves, no doubt causing anxiety to the residents, one of whom sat in a nearby tree.
1 Goldcrest near the old screen.
1 Lesser Spotted Woodpecker on the dead tree near the carved bench and barrier on Marbury Lane, it flushed before I could sex it.
At dusk on the way back to the car a Buzzard was very active along the North bank, 2 Greylag Geese came into roost, and Redwings were gathering in the hawthornes.
Two Marsh Harriers present over Neumann's Flash this evening, a male and a probable female, they flew off & the reedbeds are probably too small for this to constitute restricted info. Also the finder popped the news out on the pagers so I think local birders on here deserve the update too. Also 6 Barnacle Geese flew over Neumann's Flash at 5.40pm.
The male Marsh Harrier was seen this morning, firstly by Greg Baker who was on site before 5.30am!! Then by four other core patch watchers and myself, we watched the bird gain height and thought it may leave but it came down and then stayed tucked almost out of view on the ground until we all left. The flash is best viewed from halfway along the path between Ashton's & Neumann's Flashes as the bird ranges across the whole flash & this gives the best panoramic view,and incidentally was dead opposite where the bird went down.
Also on Ashton's Flash this morning was a pristine adult Yellow-legged Gull which showed well on the water before flying off east showing its gleaming yellow legs in the sun shining weakly through the snow falling all around us
Another good bird on our patch today, one that will be a patch tick for most, in the shape of a male Marsh Harrier. The bird was first seen by ranger Dave Jmes but then went missing. Later Sandbach Patcher Andy Goodwin picked the bird up again quartering over Ashton's Flash. All the core patchers turned out late afternoon and stayed until late but no sign of the bird again. It was seen to go down on Ashton's so a dawn raid is planned for tomorrow. A male Marsh Harrier was seen nearby at Frodsham Marsh this evening and could have been the Ashton's bird if that managed to sneak off without anyone seeing it do so!! Tomorrow may tell
Very quiet on Neumann's Flash today with only 3 Mute Swans spotted; generally very quiet apart from 1 Buzzard at the Northern End of the flash heading towards forge pool and a Kestrel close to Witton Mill car park. Several Goldfinch were eating from the Teasels close to Carden's Ferry Bridge on the Carey Park side of the bridge and across the bridge heading right along the lower path towards Haydn's Pool was a large flock of Siskins; Redpolls had also been spotted by another walker. 1 solitary Shelduck on Haydn's Pool along with Teal and Mallard and 3 Mute Swans who had just flown in. Half a dozen long Tailed Tits were by the side of Neumann's flash close to the East Hide and 5 Redwing were seen in the trees right of the path between the Flash and Ollershaw Lane 300 metres from the entrance (lay-by area) at New Warrington Rd.
Had a short pop onto patch this morning, mainly in the Neumann's Flash area (hence posting here!!). Highlight was a fantastic Woodcock which gave stunning views. Also a flock of 12 Lesser Redpolls fed low in alders by Marbury Lane not far from Witton Mill carpark, showing really close. The seeded triangle produced Goldfinch, Chaffinch, Greenfinch & more Lesser Redpolls as well as a tit flock passing through. On Neumann's a huge number of ducks were present with Teal numbering over 150, over 40 Shoveler and plenty of Tufted Ducks, Pochards, Gadwall, and Mallards. Over 200 Lapwings flew over but the flock didn't contain a single Golden Plover, just a single Starling joined in!! The usual Stock Doves, Buzzards etc were all seen too
-- Edited by Doc Brewster on Tuesday 29th of January 2013 01:27:38 PM
Most of Neumanns is still frozen. Gathered at the Northern end were 266 Teal, 5 Gadwall, 4 Shovelers, 2 Shelducks and a single Mute Swan, plus masses of Coot and Black Headed Gulls.
6 Common Gulls with Black Heads on the ice. 1 Buzzard and 1 Sparrowhawk hunting the South bank, whilst a single male Kestrel hunted the edge of Dairyhouse Meadow.
The area recently seeded for finches did'nt produce a single bird, unlike my last visit.
Haydn Pool was largely devoid of life, except for 3 Stock Doves, 1 of which was displaying.
The big flock of Feral Pigeons on the former ICI tower looked very nervous, but I could'nt see a raptor.
Another visit to Neumann's Flash area on Sunday 27th January; very quiet for the first hour with strong wind blowing and grey sky to begin with but later the sun and blue sky came into play. Didn't see any Canada Geese on the Flash and birds were down in numbers generally. The one highlight were 2 Kestrels and a Buzzard adjacent to the Hide (N/NE) One Kestrel (a Male) swooped down, collected a Short Tailed Vole and landed on a post just 50ft. in front of me so I managed to get some photos of it which you may like to see ........... prey still alive in his claws ! After a disappointing start, the Kestrels made up for the lack of other birds around.
22nd January (11.00am - 2.30pm) Forgive me if I do not give a professional update but I am a newbie to birding and will do my best to relate what I saw yesterday at Neumann's Flash; One female Kestrel, half dozen Long Tailed Tits, flock of 13 Greenfinch, 1 male Reed Bunting, 1 female Reed Bunting in front of Hide (Ollershaw Rd side), 1 male Bullfinch, 1 female Bullfinch, 1 Song Thrush, usual Blackbirds, Blue Tits. Didn't count the various Canada Geese, Teal, B.H.Gull on the Flash but another birder spotted a Barnacle Goose in flight along with the Canada Geese ( 3 x Grey Heron by Forge Pond, 1 white Goose and a 4 Mallard).
22nd January (11.00am - 2.30pm) Forgive me if I do not give a professional update but I am a newbie to birding and will do my best to relate what I saw yesterday at Neumann's Flash; One female Kestrel, half dozen Long Tailed Tits, flock of 13 Greenfinch, 1 male Reed Bunting, 1 female Reed Bunting in front of Hide (Ollershaw Rd side), 1 male Bullfinch, 1 female Bullfinch, 1 Song Thrush, usual Blackbirds, Blue Tits. Didn't count the various Canada Geese, Teal, B.H.Gull on the Flash but another birder spotted a Barnacle Goose in flight along with the Canada Geese ( 3 x Grey Heron by Forge Pond, 1 white Goose and a 4 Mallard).
All birds were concentrated on the 30% of the mere that was'nt frozen, the North West corner.
Apart from the usual Coot and Black Headed Gulls, 332 Teal, 3 Shelduck, 3 Gadwall and 25 Common Gulls.
Oddly no Shoveler.
2 Kestrels and 1 Buzzard roosting in the North East corner, where 3 Bullfinches were in the Hawthornes.
Alas all the berries have now gone, and with them the thrushes, except for a couple of Redwing.
The newly created winter finch meadow held a mixed flock of around 30 birds, mainly Chaffinches, Reed Buntings and Goldfinches, but a single Greenfinch was with them.
Then a Grey Squirrel ran into the middle of them and scattered the lot.
The Haydn Pool was frozen and lifeless, except for a solitary Woodpigeon.
One look at the former ICI tower revealed it to be teeming with Feral Pigeons, so little point in looking for a roosting Peregrine.
Checked out the wildbird seed -plant meadow between Neumann's Flash & Haydn Pool today. Despite a Brambling having been there on & off since the turn of the year it didn't show today. There were lots & lots of birds using this resource though. A few Bullfinches showed well and Lesser Redpolls came down on seedheads pretty close, otherwise the main finches feeding were Chaffinches, Greenfinches & Goldfinches. A lot of Reed Buntings were present and several Robins tolerated each other. One of the nicest sightings was 3 Goldcrests together at ground level in a spreading bramble bush. All this passerine activity drew attention from a Buzzard which made a couple of low level passes and a Kestrel which perched behind me & watched over my shoulder - but he left too when he couldn't find the Brambling
Highlights today - 2 Waxwings in flight viewed from Ashton's Flash (sighting as forecast 2 posts ago!!!), 2 Tree Sparrows with House Sparrows at Marston Hall Fam & 8 drake Pochard on Neumann's Flash.
-- Edited by Doc Brewster on Wednesday 21st of November 2012 10:16:54 PM
Still 20 Waxwings at 8.45am in the Tesco, Northwich carpark but a Sparrowhawk flew through & spooked them all about 10mins later and there was no sign again by 10.15am at least. There are fewer berries now on the favoured trees but plenty closer to the store entrance, although disturbance would be high there!
-- Edited by Doc Brewster on Thursday 15th of November 2012 02:40:17 PM
Still 18 Waxwings this am in Tesco car park and occasionally flying off to the patch boundary, so any patient patch watcher could tick them from Ashton's Flash!!!
Not too far from the flash, but still frustratingly just off patch for us listers - 30 Waxwings yesterday in the Tesco's carpark. Checked this morning & still 13 birds (on the 13th - some sort of omen?!!) in the berry trees by the main entrance road to the store car park. Using my car as a hide I was literally 2m from them Had a report early afternoon that over 20 Waxwings were still present. Very little news from patch other than a Brambling with the Chaffinch flock on 11th Nov around Ashton's Flash
-- Edited by Doc Brewster on Tuesday 13th of November 2012 10:50:36 PM
130 Teal, 8 Shovelers, 18 Mute Swans, 6 Common Gulls plus lots of Coot, Black Headed Guls etc.
40 Fieldfares with large numbers of Redwings and Blackbirds feeding in the Hawthorne thicket along the North East corner of Neumanns.
Also here 2 Song Thrushes, a single flock of 14 Greenfinches feeding on Sorrel with 2 male Bullfinches and 3 Goldfinches.
A huge Buzzard (female) sat in nearby tree watching the passerines, until a crow decided to chase it away.
1 Common Wasp sat on a fence eating lichen.
Dairyhouse Meadows
1 female Merlin sat on a small tree ( The first time I've seen a Merlin here in the 20yrs I've been visiting), 1 female Kestrel, 1 Sparrowhawk and 2 Buzzards.
2 Reed Buntings.
Haydn Pool
6 Stock Doves, 1 Grey Heron and 1 Buzzard
-- Edited by John Williams on Sunday 11th of November 2012 01:11:25 PM
After a really quiet spell a couple of new birds this morning in the shape of a male & female Pintail on the flash. They stayed early morning only but the usual pattern is for these birds to tour local waters & stay in the area. So worth keeping an eye out for them if you're visiting Neumann's, Ashton's or Budworth Mere.
The Common Tern family is still on the nest raft on the Marston Fishing Flashes (20s Club Fishing Pools) just along Olershaw Lane, showing very well in the sunshine. Managed some pictures of the family, junior is getting to be quite a size now, so all the patchers have fingers crossed & great hopes that he fledges The adults have been seen wandering to both Neumann's Flash & Budworth Mere making feeding sorties.
Yesterday patchers watched a juvenile Black-tailed Godwit on Neumann's Flash, present most of the day, an early bird passing back through, adding to the 4 Green Sandpipers that were in the area yesterday too.
250 Lapwing, 20 Mute Swans, 21 Common Gulls mixed in with large number of Black Headed Gulls and 2 Stock Doves.
Haydn Pool
2 Green Sandpipers and 16 Lapwings. Initially, I counted 7 Sand Martins flying over the pool, then a much larger number erupted from their colony with 23 in the air at one point.
8 Goldfinches and a single Linnet were bathing in a small rainwater pool. 2 Stock Doves.
Marbury Country Park
1 Common Tern, 51 adult Great Crested Grebes plus 3 half grown youngsters. 1 Garden Warbler in mereside bushes with 1 Willow Warbler, a Wren and a mixed flock of common passerines.
Sailing was taking place at the Eastern end of the mere, so there was virtually no birds there, and no sign of the Mandarin anywhere.
A couple of Lord and Ladies plants are in fruit near the car park.
A Hobby seen from Ollershaw Lane just N.of Neumann's Flash today, chasing hirundines. Also a Common Tern chick on the rafts on Marston Fishing Flashes in the same area.
The 2 Cranes were seen by at least 2 members of the Local Patch group & reported to me as they were being watched at 9.25am. I then broadcast the message via texts to all our Patchers but the Cranes flew through after initially circling over Ashton's Flash. They were later seen back at Whixhall Moss after this extended visit into Cheshire.
First Dingy Skipper of the season seen on the path between Neumann's & Ashton's Flashes on Monday, I photographed one showing very well in this area on Wednesday. Not many emerged yet but a sunny spell (some chance at the mo!!) should see numbers increase. Very little to reort bird-wise.