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RE: Neumann's Flash


Many thanks Ian, identifying immature large gulls is a fascinating challenge, I hope the bird stays in the area for a while so other birders can enjoy watching it.

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John Williams wrote:

As for those big Scandinavian 'argentatus' gulls, which are great to watch out for in autumn/winter, wouldn't Viking Gull be a more apt title?.


 Viking Gull is generally termed for hybrids between Glaucous and Herring Gulls John. As for the mantle hue on your bird, its not uncommon for some argentatus to be this dark.



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Thanks for your reply Mike, it was the pale pink leg colour that made me opt for Scandinavian Herring Gull, or rather the birds twin being shown on line as 'argentatus'. However, I have just viewed a photo of a 3rdCY Yellow-legged on line, and that gull had pale pink legs too. The mantle was midway between adults of Common and Lesser-black Back Gulls. So now I think I'll log it as a 3rdCY Scandinavian Yellow-legged Gull. These enigmatic gulls though are what make birding so satisfying. As for those big Scandinavian 'argentatus' gulls, which are great to watch out for in autumn/winter, wouldn't Viking Gull be a more apt title?.

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Hi John, could your gull be Yellow-legged Gull? Mantle colour a bit dark for Argentatus?



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Afternoon Visit

Viewed from Pods Hide:-

450+ Teal (Mainly in a huge raft along the North End of the flash), 46 Wigeon, 12 Shovelers, 6 Gadwall, 2 Shelducks and 3 Mute Swans.

Amongst the gull gathering were 6 Common Gulls and an enigmatic large gull, which dwarfed the Lesser Black Backs.

After a online search I recorded the bird as a 3rdCY "argentatus" Scandinavian Herring Gull, see photo below.

Despite it's size the bird seemed quiet placid and tolerant amongst the other gulls.

All the birds that were resting around the beach on the Eastern side of the flash were flushed by something just after I arrived.

There was no sign of any avian predators, so I put it down to either a fox or a dog, whatever it was the birds stayed well clear

of that area throughout my stay. Oddly no diving ducks, waders or raptors were seen today.

A quick scan across Ashtons Flash produced no birds at all apart from a couple of Black-headed Gulls.

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Flash still difficult to view, tall reeds still make Pods hide pretty much useless. However viewing from other hides/spots there were at least 160 Lapwings and 40 Curlews on the flash this afternoon, plus 1 Snipe and 1 Black-Tailed Godwit.

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Afternoon visit

Ashtons Flash

47 Curlew flew in to roost around 2.00pm.

Neumanns Flash

Reeds still greatly limit the viewing from Pods hide.

Plus it looks like someone has pulled out the drainage plug.

After the dry summer, I have never seen the water level so low.

I managed to view all except the SE corner of the pool from the bund.

Birds seen:- 2 Little Grebes (Looked like an adult and a youngster), 14 Lapwings,

2 adult Common Gulls and quite surprisingly a Cormorant. Also a pair of Mute

Swans with the cob seen to chase off an adult Greylag Goose, it looked like he

was just trying to impress the pen.






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Afternoon visit

Viewed from near the gate leading to Pods Hide or the the spot below the big conifer. The reeds have grown up

all around Pods Hide making viewing impossible, and are unlikely to be cut down until mid-August at the earliest,

as there may well still be some birds with young in the nest.

46 Curlews along the shoreline near Stilt Island, also 1 adult and 1 juvenile Avocets with a small group of Black Headed

Gulls there too. Also on Neumanns were 1 Oystercatcher, 1 adult+1 young Shelducks and 1 Grey Heron.

Finally, a female Mallard with a brood of 7 almost full grown ducklings, and a pair of Mute Swans with 5 full grown cygnets.





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Neumanns Flash 15.00-18.00 approx.

6 Gadwall, 1pr of Tufted Ducks, 2 adult + 2 juvenile Shelducks, 1 Great Crested Grebe,

2 adult + 2 almost full grown young Oystercatchers, 1 Buzzard, 2 Grey Herons and

4 Lapwings.

When the Buzzard flew over "Stilt" island all hell broke loose with the adult Oystercatchers

joining forces with some Black headed-Gulls and the Lapwings to chase the raptor away.

The Buzzard got the message and opted to fly off towards Witton Brook, sharpish.

Ashtons Flash

1 adult + 2 well grown young Avocets, the adult gave chase to any bird that appeared to be

a threat. On one occasion though the adult flew across to Neumanns, leaving the youngsters alone.

After a few minutes it flew back and seemed really anxious responding to any threat, on one occasion

giving chase to a startled Moorhen, before realising it was no threat. The young Avocets just carried

on feeding throughout, ignoring their ultra anxious parent.

Also seen on Ashtons was 1 overflying Buzzard. Quite a few Reed Buntings were seen commuting from

and to the centre of flash, clearly they had nests there.


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Afternoon visit

Neumanns Flash :-

4 Avocets, 1 Oystercatcher, 1 Lapwing, 2 Great Crested Grebes, 2 Little Grebes, 1 Water Rail,

4m+2f Teal, 7m+2f Shovelers, 4 Shelducks, 2 Grey Herons (1 eating a sprat sized green fish, Tench?),

7 Gadwall, 6 Tufted Ducks and 1 pair of Mute Swans.

Also a brood of 8 small Mallard ducklings that often darted off quite a long way from their

anxious mum, but when they felt threatened they shot back to her at a really impressive pace.

Both the Shoveler and Teal drakes were almost constantly displaying, trying their best to impress the

few remaining unattached females.

Ashtons Flash

2 pairs of Shoveler.















































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Late posting for yesterday 28th March, 12.30-15.00

Neumanns Flash

6m+2f Shovelers (4 drakes tried to muscle in between an established pair, the result being that the female

displayed vigorously to her partner. He tried his best to get between his girl and the amorous drakes.

Then another established couple turned up and the Casanova drakes turned their attention to the new pair,

the same thing happened again, the female displaying close to her partner as he bowed to her and manoeuvred

to deflect the bachelor ducks. Fascinating stuff, duck soap opera).

Also 1 Great Crested Grebe, 4 Shelducks, 4 adult Lesser Black Backed Gulls and a pair of resplendent adult Herring Gulls.

A male Reed Bunting was seen eating the new buds on birch trees close to Pods hide.

Ashtons Flash

A pair each of Shovelers, Shelducks and Lapwings, a single drake Tufted Duck and a passing Buzzard.

By the Marsden entrance a Dunnock was seen feeding what appeared to be a newly fledged youngster.

Also at least 5 House Sparrows were seen near the Marsden entrance gate, a couple being highly vocal.


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Brief Midday Visit (Highlights)

1 Kestrel on wires opposite the Marsden entrance.

1m Pochard, 1 Little Grebe on Neumanns Flash, whilst 5 Lapwings flew over heading South.

A flock of at least 10 Meadow Pipits moved across Ashtons Flash.

There was quite a large gull gathering on Neumanns, mostly Black Headed and Lesser Black Backs, plus 3 adult Common Gulls.

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This site has been very good for Starling murmuration in past years so I went to have a look just before dusk Saturday 26th October. No big murmuration yet but certainly a couple of thousand went past and in the hour before dusk smaller groups of around 100-150 a time were a frequent sight going in the direction of the bigger gang. It looked like they were collecting/roosting in the reeds at the far end of Neumann's Flash from the main road/Marbury Road or at Marbury Park.

 

Aside from that.. Water Rail x2 skulking in the reeds, approx. 30 Curlew flew over,  16 Greylag Geese on the flash. Sparrowhawk patrolling overhead.



-- Edited by Ruth Mott on Sunday 27th of October 2024 08:49:28 AM

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Went to see and photograph the Common Scoter at Neumanns late afternoon yesterday. The bird has been present since Wednesday and was still there this morning. Frequents the area in front of Pods Hide. An immature (1CY) male.

A walk round on 24 September yielded 38 species, of note :-

Shoveler (31)
Gadwall (16)
Wigeon (17)
Teal (17)
Tufted Duck (8)
Little Grebe (5)
Water Rail (1)
Lapwing (2)
Buzzard (2)
Kestrel (1)
Jay (9)
Chiffchaff (14)
Cettis (3)
Robin (26)
Long-tailed Tit (6)

An obvious influx of both Jay and Robin.


-- Edited by Mark Jarrett on Saturday 28th of September 2024 04:41:16 PM

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Neumanns Flash (Midday visit)

1 Grey Heron, 2 Little Egrets, 4 Little Grebes, 7 Lapwings, 14 Tufted Ducks, 1 Kestrel,

2 adult Mute Swans with 2 almost full grown cygnets (They had 3 on my last visit)

and 200+ feral geese (Mostly Greylags). Also 2 Swallows, both were seen to have

a quick in flight drink of water from Neumanns, before continuing their race Southwards.

Ashtons Flash

25 Curlews

Sincere thanks to the person who has trimmed the reeds to allow the Eastern shoreline,

the island area along the Northern bank, plus view much of Stilt Islands shoreline from Pods

hide.

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Mid-afternoon visit

Neumanns Flash:-

3 Little Egrets, 2 Egyptian Geese and a pair of Great Crested Grebes with a 1 full grown youngster.

Ashtons Flash:-

18 Curlews, 2 Chiffchaffs and a charm of around 20 Goldfinches.

A small mixed flock of Swallows and House Martins were fly catching just above the reeds on Ashtons Flash.

2 of the Curlew seemed reluctant to join the rest and were seen pecking the hardened ground away

from the centre pool, were they very hungry?.

Pods Hide is still surrounded by tall reeds, making it currently useless as an hide. However the Northern

part of the flash, and the small island can be viewed reasonably well from the short path leading to old

hide, which is now rarely used. Much of the Eastern shoreline can be viewed from viewpoint just below the

large conifer, on the car park side of the bench over looking Ashtons Flash.

However the "beach" area where Curlews, and ther waders often rest on the Eastern shoreline is still only partially visible.







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Immature female Marsh Harrier seen yesterday at Ashtons Flash around midday. Flew a few circuits before thermalling to a great height and moving off to the east. Fields adjacent to the relatively near canal, known locally as Gibbons Land held 2m and 1f Wheatear.

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Walk past here on my way to Marbury & back.

A good amount of ducks mostly wigeon though...
25 tufted ducks
3 Teal
5 shelducks
2 goosander
30+ shoveler
1 great crested grebe
1 sparrowhawk
1 great spotted woodpecker
3 jays
3 bullfinch
Cettis warbler heard
Black headed, common, Herring, lesser black backed & 1 great black backed gull.
Nice full view of a tawny owl perched low in tree on my way back past late on.

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Hi to Chris and Lizzi, I think we were in Pods Hide together tonight, just put 2 and 2 together from various Whattsapps and realised who you were!

Starling Murmuration was very interesting tonight.

Possibly due to the high winds from the West birds were coming in in groups and then dropping to 2-3ft above water level and flying from Pods Hide to the North of the Flash at water level.

Never seen Starlings do that before it was almost like a flock of hirundines brought down to water by a storm front.

Murmurating clouds did form a few times and two Sparrowhawks at least came through (one again at water level).

Dot counting (my attempt at automatic intelligence post processing / dot counting on iPhone photos) suggests a cloud of 19,000 max and a few more groups of 300 - 500 came through as I was walking back to the car. 

11 Goosander, 28 Shoveler, 58 Wigeon being the other highlights, plus over by the new build houses near Ashtons Flash a Redwing with a white throat patch the size of a 50p had me going for a moment.



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Just over two and a half hours this morning from 9.20. Sunny spells, light winds, 6-14*c. Of note :-

Greylag Goose (132)
Canada Goose (31)
Pink-footed Goose (237)
Mute Swan (2)
Shoveler (5)
Wigeon (1)
Tufted Duck (11)
Little Grebe (1)
Great Crested Grebe (26)
Stock Dove (1)
Water Rail (1)
Curlew (55)
Buzzard (4)
Great Spotted Woodpecker (1)
Cettis Warbler (1)
Long-tailed Tit (8)
Goldcrest (4)
Nuthatch (5)
Redwing (7)
Fieldfare (12)

The Pink-footed Geese all passed overhead as follows :- 65 & 17nw, 35w and 120se. Ive mistakenly posted this in the Neumanns Flash thread. As everyone will have no doubt noticed, it should have been in the Marbury Country Park one.

-- Edited by Mark Jarrett on Monday 23rd of October 2023 08:50:02 PM

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31st August 2023. Late morning / early afternoon. Nice to chat with Mark Jarrett earlier at Marbury Country Park and pointing out the Hobby hawking over Coward Reedbed.

Sightings at Neumann Flash included:

Great White Egret (1)
Grey Heron (1)
Blackcap - Male (1)
Buzzard (1)
Great Spotted Woodpecker (1)
Jay (2 heard!)
Goldfinch (50)
Lapwing (4)
Tufted Duck (40)
Long-Tailed Tits (5)
Mute Swans - two adults and six cygnets in one family
Mute Swans - two adults and one cygnet in another family

On way home I picked up my new Cellular Trail Camera from Focalpoint


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Yesterday on Neumann's 11 Black-tailed Godwit, 1 Great Egret, 2 Little Egret and 1 Green Sandpiper.

Curlew, Little ringed Plover and Peregrine on Ashtons (female Marsh Harrier there briefly on Monday)



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Garganey on Neumanns this morning, Greenshank and Wood Sandpiper on Ashtons 



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Great White Egret on Neumann's yesterday and a juvenile Garganey.

Today 2 juvenile Garganey on Ashton's Flash 



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Midday visit

Neumanns Flash :

8 Avocets, 2 Buzzards (Soaring on thermals), 14 Gadwall, 3 Mute Swans, 4 Shelducks, 6 Lapwings, 5 Tufted Ducks

and 2 Oystercatchers. A brood of 4 "Robin" sized Moorhen youngsters were with their parents by Pods Hide, the adults

very aggressively chased off a Coot that ventured to close to their family. I witnessed a very elaborate flight display by a

small bird, which surprisingly turned out to be a male Reed Bunting.

Ashtons Flash :

4 Lapwings, 1 Oystercatcher and a singing male Reed Bunting.

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Neumanns Flash: (Morning visit)

9 Avocets, 2 Lapwings, 1 Oystercatcher, 1 Little Grebe, 2 Great Crested Grebes, 6 Mute Swans,

11 Gadwall and 4 Tufted Ducks. A pair of Reed Warblers gave close views by Pods Hide.

A pair of Moorhens showed off their 7 tiny youngsters alongside the path to Pods Hide.

Ashtons Flash:

2 Avocets, 4 Lapwings, 1 Oystercatcher, 12 Gadwall and 2 male Reed Buntings.

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Haydns Pool Warbler Survey. Fine, cloud cover, breezy, 11*c. 7-8.30am.

Reed Warbler (4)
Sedge Warbler (1)
Whitethroat (6)
Blackcap (3)
Garden Warbler (2)
Willow Warbler (1)
Chiffchaff (4)

Other birds of note :-

Great Spotted Woodpecker (1)
Raven (1)
Bullfinch (3)
Stock Dove (4)

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Morning visit

Neumanns Flash: 1 Dunlin, 2 Avocets, 1 Water Rail, 4 Shelducks, 4 Tufted Ducks, 1 Buzzard,

1 Little Grebe, 2 Reed Warblers (Calling and showing briefly by Pods Hide), 4 Lapwings, 2m Reed Buntings,

8 Greylag Geese (1 pair with 4 pigeon sized goslings), 2 Gadwall and a female Mallard with a brood of 12

tiny ducklings.

Ashtons Flash: 6 Lapwings, 4 Gadwall, 4 Tufted Ducks, 1 Buzzard and 1 Shelduck.

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Saturday - Whinchat on Ashton's - Sorry slow to post



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A single greenshank on the flash early morning.  



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female Marsh Harrier mid pm initially over Neumanns and then spent 10 minutes or so quartering over Ashtons  



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Two Avocet on the flash mid morning, also drake Pintail and Redshank on Ashtons



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Mid-morning visit

Neumanns Flash:

3f Goosanders, 1m Pintail, 8 adult Common Gulls, 9 Tufted Ducks, 4 Shelducks and 1 Grey Heron.

Ashtons Flash:

2 Oystercatchers (Earlier recorded on Neumanns), 5 Lapwings and 1 Buzzard.

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Morning visit (Highlights)

Neumanns Flash :

1 pair of displaying Great Crested Grebes. 1f Goosander, 1 Buzzard, 16 Teal, 13 Tufted Ducks and 1 Shelduck.

Ashtons Flash:

1 Little Grebe.



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10.00-11.15

Neumanns Flash:

111 Wigeon, 1m Reed Bunting, 1 Water Rail (Seen and heard squealing loudly), 2f Goosanders, 5 Shelducks,

10 Tufted Ducks, 8 Teal and 2 Great Crested Grebes.

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Afternoon visit 13.00-15.00

Neumanns Flash:

2 adult Mediterranean together with 8 Common Gulls seen amongst a raft of gulls on the flash.

A very impressive gathering of 238 Wigeon, 8 Curlews, 18 Tufted Ducks, 16 Shovelers, 5 Shelducks

and a single drake Pintail. No sign of the Goldeneye pair seen last Thursday.

Ashtons Flash:

My highest ever count of Curlews here, 109 birds in total. As I was leaving a large number of Curlews

left Ashtons Flash and circled over the fields in Wincham.

10 Shovelers were noted on the pool at the Western end of the flash.





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Mid-Morning visit

Neumanns Flash :

1m+1f Goldeneyes (Male seen displaying to female), 4 Shelducks, 13 Tufted Ducks, 2m Shovelers,

8 Common Gulls and a couple of flocks of Lapwings (Around 130 birds in total) seen flying towards Marbury CP.



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10.30-12.00

Neumanns Flash: 1m Pintail, 10 Tufted Ducks, 4 Shelducks, 4 Shovelers,1 Gadwall,

15 Wigeon, 4 adult Common Gulls and 3f Bullfinches.

Ashtons Flash: 12 Shovelers.

Also 4 Goldcrests were on the tall ivy covered trees in the NW corner of Neumanns,

and 8 Redwings were on bushes alongside the Haydn Pool.



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11.00-12.00

Neumanns Flash:

13 Shovelers, 8 Tufted Ducks, 3 Shelducks, 1m+1f Goosanders and 6 adult Common Gulls.



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Morning visit

Neumanns Flash :4 Shelducks and 4 Shovelers.

Surprisingly, apart from a few Mallard, the above were the only ducks on the flash, and there no geese, swans

or grebes at all.

There were plenty of gulls though, mainly Black-Headed, but also a few Common, Herring and Lesser-Black Backs too.

A flock of round 12 Redwings together with a few Blackbirds were feeding on Ivy berries in the copse at the NE corner of the flash.

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Lunchtime visit

Neumanns Flash: 14 Shoveler, 1m Wigeon, 2 Shelducks, 8 Tufted Ducks and a single Mute Swan.

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A bit quiet at the Flashes, around midday, after walking over from Budworth Mere. Species seen 31, of note :-

Shoveler (4)
Wigeon (6)
Teal (21)
Tufted Duck (11)
Curlew (1)
Peregrine (1)
Cettis Warbler (1)
Nuthatch (1)
Linnet (2)
Reed Bunting (1)


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Neumanns Flash (Lunchtime visit)

The flash was still frozen over, with just a few gulls resting on the ice, including a single adult Common Gull.

A Water Rail was seen to wander gingerly out onto the ice, but was easily spooked,

so it shot back into the reeds instead.



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Neumans Flash Lunchtime visit

The flash was 100% frozen over, the only avian life seen was a single Magpie eating the remains of a dead goose.



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Neumanns Flash (Lunchtime)

160 Teal, 75 Wigeon, 8 Shovelers, 1 Grey Heron and 4 Common Gulls.

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11.30-13.00

Neumanns Flash viewed from Pods Hide during heavy rain.

27 Teal, 1 Dunlin, 1 Grey Wagtail, 1 Water Rail, 1 Snipe, 2 Common Gulls, 4m Shovelers, 2 Tufted Ducks,

10 Wigeon, 1 Gadwall, 1 Grey Heron and 1 Cormorant.

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10.30-12.00

Neumanns Flash: 210 Teal, 4 Shovelers, 150+ Black headed Gulls, 1m+1f Goosanders, 3 Tufted Ducks,

1 Water Rail, 4 Common Gulls and 1 Shelduck.

Also singles of Canada Goose and Mute Swan, both of whom looked uneasy at being on their own. Having the sad

corpses of 4 Canada and 2 Greylag Geese, plus 2 deceased Black headed Gulls around margins of the pool obviously

added to their anxiety.


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Neumann's Flash Midday visit

1m+1f Ruff, 1 Dunlin, 1 Snipe, 200 Lapwings, 250+ Teal, 42 Shovelers, 2 Grey Herons, 1 Kestrel, 5 Common Gulls,

2 adult Herring Gulls, 1 3rd winter Great Black-backed Gull and 1 Cormorant.

Also amongst few feral geese was what appeared to be a Barnacle/Greylag hybrid, with a noticeably smaller size

compared to the Canadas and a light patch that covered the whole sides of the birds face.

Oddly only 6 Mallards were seen on the flash, plus a dead one close to the path leading to Pods Hide.

No Wigeon, Gadwall or Tufted Ducks were seen on the flash.



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Neumanns Flash 15.00-16.30

4 Ruff, 5 Snipe, 46 Wigeon, 26 Shoveler, 490 Lapwings, 2 Water Rails, 1 Raven, 1 Cormorant,

77 Teal, 1 Little Grebe and 1 Grey Heron.

Possible signs that Bird Flu has not gone away with a dead Canada Goose in the NE corner, whilst

nearby another bird of the same species showing real signs of distress/illness. It appeared also that

other Canada Geese on the flash were staying well clear of their sick and deceased fellows.

Oddly, crows seemed to be showing little interest in the dead goose too.

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Neumanns Flash Afternoon visit

4 Ruff, 474 Lapwings, 1 Little Grebe, 1 Water Rail, 1 Grey Wagtail, 2 Cormorants, 1 Sparrowhawk, 1 Buzzard,

45 Wigeon, 16 Shovelers and 1 Common Gull. 70+ Teal flew in around 4pm together with the Wigeon.

Around 2pm 196 Greylag Geese, in 4 skeins, flew over heading North.

-- Edited by John Williams on Wednesday 5th of October 2022 06:53:02 PM

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