Hi Richard. Do you mean 1894 for the date of your book. Just wondered as my birding 'primer' from my pre-teens in the late 1950's was the Observer's Book of Birds and that lists both Glaucous and Iceland Gull as separate species, at a time before Rock and Water Pipits had been split. You're right about the derivation of the name though. The Classical Greek Hyperboreans were people who lived beyond the North Wind (Boreas).
-- Edited by Mike Chorley on Sunday 25th of February 2018 12:33:11 AM
I have some info which may be of help?? I have an old 1984 book on English bird names and a bird scientific name dictionary. 1st, both iceland and glaucous gulls are very simular according to several references. Glaucous in English is named so due to its greyish blue appearence- hence the Latin name glaucoides means "resembling or likeness" and derived from "glaucus" meaning "blue-grey". Unfortunately, the iceland gull isn't mentioned in the English bird name book but i have enouth information to make me think that at are sometime in the past the iceland gull may not have been well known or marked as a sepetate species at some point. So I assume from this that the Iceland gull may have possibly been mistaken for the glaucous gull or vice versa (but this is my personal guess). I say this because as in the previous post- glaucous gull ranges further north- hence the latin "hyperboreus" which means "northern - a people of the extream north" so perhaps when a simular looking smaller gull was separated, the English name sruck with the original find (glaucous gull) but because the glaucous gull lived further north- the latin name was changed to mean "further north" whilst the Iceland gull scientific name stuck (for its greyish blue look) and just it's English name was changed. Hope this is correct and that it helps.
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The scientific names may reflect the breeding distribution? I suggest that hyper = extra, and perhaps boreus (aka boreal) refers to the Arctic, which would give us more or less high Arctic - fittingly, as Glaucous Gulls breeding range is truly circumpolar and generally further north, whereas Iceland Gull is largely confined as a breeder to Southern Greenland and NE Canada around Baffin and adjacent islands.
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Glaucous Gull reappeared around 14.45 and was highly active, taking off and circling among the dozens of other gulls. It took a whole crust of bread and was pursued by various other gulls trying to steal this, eventually finding a peaceful spot on the water over towards the far side, where it stayed until I left soon after 3pm. Beautiful bird with stunningly close views.
Colour ringed Black-headed Gull ( KFL4 ) , which I reported from Hollingworth Lake on 07/02/18 , was ringed as a pullus at Lake Babite,near Laci in Latvia on 27/06/15. It was subsequently reported twice from Dublin,Ireland in December 2015.It was then sighted at Bray harbour, Co. Wicklow in January, 2016,before being reported back near Dublin in February '16. A bit of a gap then, until July 2017, when KFL4 was reported twice from Pumpuri, Jurmala in Latvia. The next reported sighting was mine on 07/02/18 at Hollingworth. It has since been reported again at Hollingworth on the 12th of Feb.
Quite fascinating to discover the traveling habits of an often overlooked species.I wonder where he'll turn up next!
A 2nd visit to treat my mother to a new tick after she has recovered from that nasty flu for the glaucous gull.
Arrived at 12:30pm and straight away the glaucous gull showed very well and unlike my last visit, he actually landed very close on the ramp and the lighting was much better too! Another fantastic visit and experience for both of us.
Also noteworthy was common gulls (1st winter and adult) 1 fully hooded black headed gull, 2 lesser black backed gulls and 1 juvenile herring gull. Also 1 pochard drake seen on the pools from the train near smithy Bridge station.
1st Winter Glaucous Gull still present this morning and showing very well from the slipway. Not put off by several kids with mums (what I call in these situations www.noise.com) who no doubt had just finished feeding the nearby geese and ducks. Managed to get a few half decent photos and spent twenty minutes or so having some good views before the sleet and snow set in.
Apologies for late posting,but I finally managed to catch up with the Glaucous Gull at Hollingsworth Lake,yesterday lunchtime!
Initially it was over the far side of the lake from the slipway,but it soon flew over to pose for the next half hour or so.It truly is a spectacular looking creature!
Whilst I was somewhat preoccupied with the Glaucous Gull,Jane drew my attention to a rather interesting Black headed gull, on the slipway about 8' away...this gull appears to have been ringed in Latvia, a brief search of the internet drew a blank.( any ideas on who to contact for further info and to report , Ian ? ) Images below.
Cheers Chris. Forgot to say the black headed gull had a metal ring on it's left leg reading ....LATVIA-RIGA. S3304. And a yellow ring on it's right leg reading KFL4
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Monday 5th. went to see the Juvenile Glaucous Gull this morning at around 10.40 am. When I first arrived no sign of it on the jetty and the snow started to fall. Waited in the car for 15 mins and it flew onto the jetty. A lady was feeding the gulls and it flew to the ramp. Gave great views (see photos) and what a bird. Recommend you go and visit while its still here.
Sunday 4th Feb. Morning visit until around 1.15pm.
- Juvenile Glaucous Gull was showing extremely well. Sat out on the jetty for a while then flew on to the ramp to within feet of me. I must admit there was a few times it flew back to the jetty when some of the dog walkers let their dog right down to the waters edge. Nice to see it bathing and then preening. Absolutely cracking looking Gull.
- Great Black-backed Gull 1 juv - Lesser Black-backed Gull 1 - Common Gull 7 - Sparrowhawk 1 (Flew right over the car park and put nothing up at all)
I'd thought I'd give Hollingworth a visit for a spare afternoon since I got curious about the status of the glaucous gull there after I've seen some belting pictures of him around. Only took me about an hour to get to smithy Bridge station.
I'm not surprised he has stayed at the ramp and pontoon area as he has daily pickings with about 100 other gulls, and I suspect he is from a region that is close to a town because non of the noisy kids or the dog walkers bothered him in the slightest.
I've also noticed he was a tad paler then the one I've seen in North Wales in December and personally I prefer their 1st winter plumage then the other stages because the almost plain creamy white look gives them a more unusual and a more beautiful appearance. It was just a tad shame the lighting started to fade a tad after 45 minutes of being there due to some thicker cloud but still thrillingly good and managed plenty of decent pictures!
Other birds to note included; great crested grebe, 2 Pied wagtails and a lesser black backed gull.
1rst.Winter Glaucous Gull on slipway when I arrived at 11am. . Still there now, at 11.55 am... With Gordon Yates and Martyn Jones present too. Great to meet them.
County lifer for me -- Edited by keith mills on Wednesday 31st of January 2018 03:15:41 PM
No sign of the Glaucous Gull 12.00 to 16.00. Did full circuit of the lake - against the red tide but no sign of it anywhere, then a few hours back by the ramp to no avail. 3 Cormorant, inc. 1 breeding plumage bird 4 Goosander 2 Pink-footed Goose (came in when Canada's flushed by a helicopter) 1 Grey Heron 8 Great Crested Grebes All three usual larger gulls in a good selection of plumages plus Mallard, Tufted Duck, Common & Black-headedGulls.
-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Sunday 28th of January 2018 05:50:47 PM
Came after work and got some good views of the Glaucous Gull on the end of the jetty. A very smart looking Gull indeed!
Sunday 28th Jan. With Simon Gough and Chris Chandler. Nice to see other forum members there too.
- Glaucous Gull was a no show whilst we were there all morning. - Great Black-backed Gull 2 (1 ad, 1 juv) - Lesser Black-backed Gull 3 (2 ad, 1 1st W) - Common Gull 6 ad - Reed Bunting 1 - Santa Claus 40+ and a Rudolph
Great views of Glaucous Gull today, after waiting most of the morning - the bird having disappeared for a few hours. Glad we went for breakfast instead of coming home. Luckily the bird turned up whilst we were eating.
juvenile glaucous gull showing extremely well on the slipway of the yacht club from 2.25pm. it plonked itself down on the jetty later on for a period of time. just before 4.30pm it then joined all the gulls in the roost.
juvenile Glaucous Gull still present to at least 13:20 at the slipway off the main car park, among the throng of Mallards, Canada Geese and Black-Headed Gulls
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