I am not sure if the birder from Burnley uses this forum but he may use the ELOC forum. I think there was talk of them even landing somewhere near by possibly in a field to feed. I dont know what prompted that observation but there was some discussion about it.
Bewick swan is a hard call. Indeed I managed some photographs but the birds had winged their way over the lake too fast for me to get my lens off the tripod and get decent shots. I'd say the birds flew at about 200ft off the ground.
I was talking with another birder from Burnley (name I forget). We were looking over the lake at the GND (from near the entrance to the visitors centre) when my attention was distracted probably by the flight sound: so I looked up and behind. As I was looking I saw 3 adult swans in flight and in very close formation. I immediately looked at the other birder and said something like "they're not mute swans? ". The other birder who I feel is a very experienced birder said "possibly Bewick's swan...short necked." I could not disagree. Keeping my eye on the birds I got the lens off the tripod. The bird's flight formation had opened up a bit and they did (if I recall correctly) a half circle beyond the lake and then disappeared dropping down well out of view, I managed about 5 shots, but the birds were a long way off. I will naturally send my pictures off to Ian. The bird's bodies naturally became foreshortened to the view. Given my brief view I certainly would not rule out Bewick's. The other birder went to look for them but could not find them.
If the birder from Burnley reads this thread would you please send me a private message...Many thanks.
No sign of Iceland Gull in roost today. Very interested to hear about the Bewick's - anyone see them as I think they are a county rarity these days so unless someone submits a description the sighting will probably disappear into the ether. Bewicks used to be an annual passage migrant here in the eighties but they have become really scarce recently - I think the last ones at the Lake were in about 1996 - just goes to show what can turn up when a site gets a bit of coverage - could have done with those tournament points though!
still present until 3.30pm today. giving very close and excellent views. no iceland Gull unless it came later. ususal cormorants, herring gulls, b h gulls, couple of lbb gulls, 1 goosander flying over, 2 wigeon, 4 great crested grebes min, and some birders saw 3 bewicks swans early afternoon which then flew off.
Thanks Bill - glad lots of people got to see it. Have to agree that seeing Iceland Gull and Great Northern Diver in the same scope view was one of those surreal moments where you think you're just about to wake up - can't be many times that's happened before in Rochdale! Visiting birders might actually get the mistaken impression that this is quite a good place to go birding.....I know better!
Second winter Iceland Gull at Hollingworth Lake 2pm, plus the usual juvenile Great Northern Diver.
Info thanks to Simon Hitchen
Another excellent find Simon!
Really enjoyed watching this lovely gull, along with the other good number of assembled birdwatchers. Especially so the moment when the gull was in full view through the optics and the diver very conveniently drifted from left to right in the same field of vision....sublime!
Bill.
NB - still there at 3.20 pm - so probably roosting?
-- Edited by Bill Myerscough on Saturday 12th of December 2009 04:17:26 PM
Wed 9/12 am. G.N.D. showing well on a lovely calm morning. Speaking to a local birdwatcher he is convinced there are two on the lake. Had a good mooch but could only find one. Kingfisher giving good views fishing nature reserve end. Also G.C.Grebes (4) and Teal (6) Dave Phillips
Did not see GND AM But in puddle round corner on hollingworth road 3 Gooseander 2 male 1 female 6 lapwing 1 heron 1 cormerant 12 canada geese BH Gull 3 teal
Great Northern Diver giving great views late morning between the pub and the pump station. Not a lot else around - 6 Great Crested Grebe, a Cormorant, a good number of Black Headed Gulls, a few Canadas, Mallard, a Pink footed Goose, a couple of hybrids and domestic Duck was the best that I could manage.
11am to 11-45am GND showing well between the pumping stn. and the white fronted pub. Very active and quite close to the walkway. 1 pinkfoot and one imm. greylag with the canadas near the boat club. There were a few hybrids about and one in particular got my attention, probably a mallard with green head just beginning to show and a fair amount of white on the breast but the overall size of the bird was 50% bigger than the average, there was another with similar markings (no green on the head) at normal size.
Mike
-- Edited by Mike hirst on Monday 30th of November 2009 05:07:34 PM
Glad it was still there this morning as about 58 mile round trip and no whiskey shop in between Just me, the other two were busy, but I thought, I would give it a go.
Great view though from the car park near the chip shop. It was around buoy A for 10 mins. or so, mostly on the water, but occasionally diving, so pretty near. Then it dived, and I could not find it again
It looked well marked to me, but not having seen the other, I could not tell. Perhaps some of you have been as well?
Probably the best view I have every had of a GND and the light was good, so very nice in the scope. I let a couple of folk have a look.
Glad to hear it seemed a bit more active today. Noticed on the Calderdale blog that Sean Gray had a Great northern at Ringstone Edge Res'r this morning - could this be our missing diver as it's only a short hop over the Pennines from Piethorne? Having said that Great northerns seem to be all over the place at the moment.
This bird doesnt seem to do much diving (at least not when I've seen it) and seems a bit sluggish compared to the other one.
It was diving a lot today! As soon as I got my camera on it, it was under again - and under for a while each time, popping up 30-50 yards from where it dived. A right merry dance it led us!!!
Just the one Great-northern today - looks like the more recent arrival to me - slightly browner and less well marked than the first bird - maybe they weren't as pleased to see each other as I had initially thought - suspect there's not enough fish for 2 divers. Had been expecting them both to go together though. This bird doesnt seem to do much diving (at least not when I've seen it) and seems a bit sluggish compared to the other one - wonder if it's just knackered or not very well.
Also today Jim Taylor had 7 Whoopers fly over south-east around 3 o'clock.
Also 6 Great-crested Grebes, 1 Cormorant, 110+Fieldfare, 2 Lesser Redpoll over
Thanks Dave W re 'chimping' - I understand the term now!!! Gimping is limping from a 'bad' leg of course it is - my brain is definitely on the downward swing ....... but its still thinking about Simons comments about divers in double figures .... a 'flock' of GND's would see me heading for the M62 no doubt about it!!! I will make a twitcher yet ......
-- Edited by Pauline Greenhalgh on Friday 27th of November 2009 08:54:16 AM
Thought I was suffering from double vision this morning but after a 25 year wait since the last GNDiver here there's now 2 inside a month. Both birds are juveniles - the new bird appears a bit paler and less well marked than the long-stayer. When I first arrived this morning they were at opposite ends of the lake and seemed oblivious to each other's presence - the 'old' bird was diving actively but the 'new' one wasn't diving and quite frankly looked knackered and spent a lot of time asleep so I don't think it can have been here under the radar - it gave me the impression of being recently arrived. The 2 birds then met up - maybe I'm being anthropomorphic but they seemed decidely pleased to see each other and they hung around close together for the rest of the morning until I left at around 11 am.
Popped back at dusk but could only see one bird then.
Made me wonder if an overflying diver would somehow know that one was already down on the water. I remember reading about 14 Red-throats coming down to join 2 on the water at Scotsman's Flash.........here's hoping!
Chimping Pauline (due to how photographers act and sound when looking back at pictures) Gimping is probably something else all together - im sure Paul Cliff will add it to his terms though on the general discussion section
As I understand it the main car park is the one near the buildings, loos, pontoon and safety boats. The next car park is for disabled only I think - tho I've pulled in just to have a look over the water there and left the engine running. I've also patrolled around towards the visitor centre which is hidden off down to the left half way round towards the pub and driven along the road over there and stopped just to scan without leaving the car. If you're willing to spend time it will most likely do 'its circuit' and come past the pontoons and on round to fish near the water tower - it can be very very close at this point as I found out last time whilst - I believe the word is 'gimping' or 'chimping'? - looking at my monitor to see what I'd got (or not as the case my be) and found the bird looking up at me from 20ft off ........... I nearly dropped the camera in and the bird dove the min I made eye contact - naturally!!!!!!
Sorry to ask but which is the main car park - the one by where the rescue boats moor up to the buoys or the one further round after the right hand turn towards the reserve bit [its a while since I've been but might go for a look at the weekend as my other GND was at 100m range off shore]. Thanks in anticipation, Peter
One GND patrolling its usual beat near the car park. Saw no other, though the strong wind made the lake very choppy, so it was difficult to see much in the middle of the lake. I stayed from 2.45 - 3.30 p.m.