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RE: Dunham Massey area, including the NT Park


Excellent thanks Sid that belps a lot mate

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Pete Astles wrote:

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I am a new member of the national trust this year and might give this place a try I went to the hall last year but only to see the World War One feature but no idea of the grounds could I ask generally where you head to for the birding ?

Thanks in advance

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Pete to get yourself started the National Trust counter directly under the clock have free info leaflets with a park map included to give you an idea of the various locations mentioned in the forum thread.

For example if you walk from in front of the house up the main paved path with Smithy Pool to your left. You will pass a fenced-off area and two wood carvings - walk on about 100m and you will see the deer house to your left. The Green Woodpeckers tend to feed on the ground in that area. Historically the Lesser spotted Woodpeckers tend to be in the wooded areas around the obelisk and the various pieces of water are always worth a look including the stream over towards the Bollington Mill flats. A walk along the Bollin from the flats can be productive.

As for other "birding areas" in the park just walk around and you will find many of the species as published on this thread.

I tend to try to be there before the crowds arrive and always try to avoid weekends when birding. Good luck.

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Hi folks

I am a new member of the national trust this year and might give this place a try I went to the hall last year but only to see the World War One feature but no idea of the grounds could I ask generally where you head to for the birding ?

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with Steve Atkins saturday morning:

Green woodpecker
2 x Green sandpipers
3 x Buzzards including 2 displaying
Mute swan pair
Great spotted woodpeckers drumming
flock of Redwing in sub song
Grey Herons at heronry


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On duty yesterday 1pm to 5pm. A quiet day but much woodpecker activity.

Green Woodpecker x 3
Great Spotted Woodpecker x4
Large amounts of Nuthatch activity throughout park
1x Teal on Island pool
A pair of Mute Swans are back on Smithy Pool

No sign of the reported Little Egret but the duty rangers are aware of its condition and are keeping an eye out for it.

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James Walsh wrote:

The Little Egret has a protuberance from it's neck just underneath its' beak, the situation didn't look very healthy and I have reported this situation and my concern for this birds' welfare to the RSPCA, the Case Number is 123843-1426027611

If anyone visits Dunham Park, please report on the health of this bird


There has been a Little Egret reported in and around the park for a couple of weeks but no sign today.

PS - A group of 15 - 20 Redwings remains in the area of the obelisk.



-- Edited by sid ashton on Wednesday 11th of March 2015 06:06:25 PM

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The Little Egret has a protuberance from it's neck just underneath its' beak, the situation didn't look very healthy and I have reported this situation and my concern for this birds' welfare to the RSPCA, the Case Number is 123843-1426027611

If anyone visits Dunham Park, please report on the health of this bird


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Little Egret on Island Pool, giving good views and still present at 5pm
3 Green Sandpipers Bollington area

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Little Egret still present at 4:20 today.

Info thanks to James Walsh

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A visit today with my sister and her family, hoping to show the kids the deer and maybe a woodpecker or two. Didn't see one, but did manage a nice Little Egret on the Island Pool, which is a GM tick for me. It seemed pretty comfortable, might become a fixture, who knows?

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Whilst driving past the fisheries at Dunham Woodhouses at 16.45 this evening a Little Egret was flying over the village in the direction of Dunham Massey park. It seemed to be heading towards the back of the park perhaps for the R.Bollin.

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A quiet day at Dunham Massey from 12.30 to 3.30pm, with some nice highlights.

1 kingfisher on the mill outflow
2 Treecreeper
1 Goldcrest
6 Long Tailed Tits
50+ Black Headed Gulls on Smithy pool
2 Great Spotted Woodpecker

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The park was finally given the go-ahead to open at 10am as the winds had dropped. I was on duty from 10am to 1pm.

Despite the wind and cold the park was humming with life. Whilst checking for tree damage in the more inaccessible paths I had a number of highlights.

20 Pink Footed Geese (flying over)
1 Redwing
3 Treecreeper
7 Long Tailed Tit
1 Goldcrest
100 Black Headed Gulls (on flooded field other side of Bollington Gate)
30 Canada Geese
2 Green Woodpecker (seen near deer barn)

This area is by far the best place to see Green Woodpecker in the park as it has many ant hills and very rarely disappoints. They are often found on the ground among the ant hills or in the surrounding trees. Find a comfortable seat or tree to lean against and wait and they should turn up.

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A Dunham first for me this morning, three Goosander (2 male, 1 female) on the now very flooded meadow between the mill and Bollington flats.

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December 11th

Peregrine between Bollington Mill & Dunham Park
1 Goosander & 1 Tufted Duck @Hall Lake

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I took a bird walk in the park this morning 11.00am to 1.00pm.

The highlights were:
1 Common Buzzard
2 Grey Heron
Many Nuthatch very vocal throughout the park
5+ Long Tailed Tit
1 Coal Tit
3 Goldcrest
1 Treecreeper
1 Green Woodpecker, a female feeding on ground next to deer barn for a good 15 minutes.
1 Mistle Thrush
1 Song Thrush
1 Greenfinch

20 people attended the walk, which was just right.


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12 til dark, 39 species seen.

golf course & forest...

2 great spotted woodpecker
7 nuthatch
9 goldcrest
2 treecreeper
2 mistle thrush
expected to see lots of redwing around, only managed to see 5 over hmm

deer park...

2 green woodpecker
4 great spotted woodpecker
9 nuthatch
5 treecreeper
3 goldcrest
2 jay
3 buzzard
again only 6 redwing seen in here.

island pool.. 7 tufted duck, 1 teal.

smithy pool... 4 tufted duck, 1 juvenile mute swan, being ringed by steve Christmas (nice to meet you) & jammie dunning.

flock of 63 mostly greenfinch with few chaffinch.
36 lapwing, over
at 5.05pm 2 skiens of pink footed geese went over east, they went over my head so managed to still see them in the dark a rough guess at 200-300.
tawny owl & little owl heard only.
plus all usuals around.


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I had a nice afternoon in the park yesterday. Here are some highlights.

100+ flock of Fieldfare flew over the hall
200+ Black Headed Gull on flooded field by Bollin
5 Grey heron
2 Stock Dove
1 Treecreeper
2 kestrel both giving alarm calls
2 Little Grebe

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One Green Sandpiper in the ditch in the field over the wall viewed from near the water mill in the park.
A Green Woodpecker was just north of the island pool.
Cheers.

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Post edited to Woodhouse Lane NOT SCHOOL LANE!


Yes Rick as I said in my PM if you park at the bottom end of School Lane you are likely to get a ticket as the parking wardens are active around therewink

Woodhouse Lane opposite the cottages is fine.

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Post edited to Woodhouse Lane
NOT SCHOOL LANE!

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I called in on Friday afternoon on way back from Blithfield Res, Staffordshire. I parked on Woodhouse Lane just off Charcoal Road (usually a few spaces around there) and used the very stile that is mentioned virtually right opposite where I parked.

Very little in the way of bird sightings, was hoping for a Green Woodpecker but none seen.
-1 Buzzard over
-1 Sparrowhawk
-1 Nuthatch
-1 Great Spotted Woodpecker (heard only at close quarters but couldn't see it)
-Flock of Redwings heard in the tree tops on Main Drive, but I could see that they were moving through the trees so unable to give a number, sounded loud and there tends to be quite a large number in Dunham, was last year anyway.
-Jackdaws everywhere
-usuals on Smithy Pool ... Mallard, Coot, Black-headed Gull

Without doubt the star attraction was the Fallow Deer herd, and just recently Mammals have provided some good sightings on recent trips out. After climbing over the stile immediately there were 2 fairly large darkish Buck's partially hidden sat in the vegetation against the perimeter brick wall. They were keeping out of the way of the 2 even larger pale phase Buck's that were bellowing to each other and chasing Doe's. These 2 really are thick set Buck's and 1 of them provided a bit of a rush when he charged a Doe to right near where I was standing, I don't know if she ran over to me for a bit of protection but there would've been very little I could've done against that hormonal brut!

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-- Edited by Rob Creek on Sunday 19th of October 2014 09:12:01 PM

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Craig - as a National Trust member and a frequent visitor to the park, when birding I tend to get there before the park is open at 09.00 and usually park on Woodhouse Rd. This is off the B5160, Smithy Lane which is the continuation of Charcoal Road. Then go over the stile into the park as mentioned by Ivan. I find that getting there before the place gets busy also helps, less disturbance. There is a fee of £6.00 for non NT members to use the car park.

You can also park in the area near the Swan with Two Nicks pub Little Bollington at the end of Park Lane, off the A56 Lymm Road. From here cross the bridge over the Bollin and then across the meadow footpath into the park. You can walk along the river bank here as well.

If you do go by bike Tim is absolutely correct you will not be allowed to ride in the park, cycling in the park is only for the up to 5 year olds I assume for the safety of other park users.

-- Edited by sid ashton on Sunday 19th of October 2014 04:32:17 PM

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Thanks for the info guys.

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Craig, you can walk in over a couple of stiles off Charcoal lane, parking is a bit of a problem. If you are going regular it is good value to join the NT, or if you do want to walk in for free make a small donation at the hall now and again. They provide a nice place to walk and take pics of birds and deer.

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Craig Higson wrote:

Daft questio - I always thought Dunham was a pay to enter place i.e. everywhere not just the house and formal gardens. Is that not the case? Was thinking of a visit so any info would be really useful.





Only entry to the Hall is charged. And the car park of course but you can park off Coal Lane if you're early enough and walk there. You can cycle there too but beware the fascist NT wardens who have failed to notice that British Cycling and the NT have combined to 'promote' cycling (with a photo of a bike outside the hall natch!). I was practically arrested by their goons for cycling there at the dizzying speed of 3mph

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You can certainly walk onto the deer park, or you could the last time I went. I arrived one morning before the reception opened and a side gate was open. Best time to catch the Green Woodpeckers too I think, before the majority of visitors arrive.

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Daft questio - I always thought Dunham was a pay to enter place i.e. everywhere not just the house and formal gardens. Is that not the case? Was thinking of a visit so any info would be really useful.

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11am - 1pm

2 Green Woodpecker - Ace views flying in front of me across the main path!
3 Buzzard
2 Pied Wagtail

Plus loads of water birds!

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Early evening, watched House Martins taking food to very noisey young in nest on Bollington Mill flats. Grey Wagtail landed on the roof just above the nest biggrinbiggrin



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Late afternoon, approximately 20 Sand Martins feeding over Smithy Pool and the female Mandarin still on the Moat.

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Dunham Massey park 10.00am - 2.00pm yesterday. A quiet day but some birds worth reporting

1 f Mandarin Duck on the moat

Bollington Gate

3 grey Heron
1 Stock Dove

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9pm
Kingfisher on smithy pool, 8 catches within five minutes. Great viewing.

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Originally posted today by Kristian Wade:


Visit from 10:30am - 13:00pm

2 adult and 6 juvenile swans on smithy's pool.

5 Little Grebes on Island Pool with coots and moorhens.

6 Grey Herons on brook flowing out of park.

Green woodpecker heard but not seen.



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Sunday, 20th July 2014 12:00 - 15:00 hrs.

House Martin
Swallows
Swift
Mistle Thrush
Mute Swans and 6 cygnets
Nuthatch
Treecreeper
Wren
Blue Tit
Magpie
Carrion Crows
Heron x 3
Canada Geese
Goldfinch
House Sparrow
Pied Wagtail
Mallard
Coots

Along Bridgewater Canal (between Dunham village and turn off for Swan with Two Nicks pub):
Banded Demoiselle (Male) - lifer for me
Large Red Damselfly
Common Blue Damselfly

Meadow Brown and Gatekeeper butterflies

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A nice evening wander after work, 7.30-9.30pm

2 Green Woodpecker (1 adult, 1 juv) in trees to the left of the hall, where the stile crosses the wall.
1 Stock Dove & 2 Woodpigeon on the banks of the Bollin, just over the wall.
7-8 Mistle Thrush among the deer, just in front of the hall.
1 Grey Heron on the edge of Island Pool.

Also nearby:
2 Yellowhammer perched up on wires, just off Oldfield Lane.

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Yesterday evening during a short family stroll, dozens of Martins (Sand and House), Swallows and Swifts feeding over Smithy pool. Amazing to just sit and watch the aerobatic display.

This morning as well as the young Swans, Coots and Mallards on Smithy pool other species with young were seen:- Moorhen, Treecreeper, Buzzard and a very noisey Green Woodpecker that only shut up when one of the parents fed it biggrin

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Thank you very much Lawrence - I saw two of them there today. These were my first UK Green Woodpecker so I'm chuffed. We sat for a while on the bench near to the deer barn and after a while, I saw a head pop up exactly like you said! I've put a photo on the St Helens Birds and Wildlife blog in the out of area tab (big crop).

Green Woodpecker 2 (1m, 1juv)

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Try the open ground next to the deer barn. They should be feeding in amongst the ant hills (the hills look like small mounds of grass). Scan the field and you may see their heads pop up. They seem to be there most of the day as I saw them there at 3.00pm on Saturday.

Best of Luck

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I've been to Dunham Massey lots of times and never seen the green woodpecker. Where is the best place/time to see them?

Thanks, Damian

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Thanks Sid, Good Point I hadn't thought of that.

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In the park 06.00 - 08.15 today on a pleasantly sunny morning. First stop was at Smithy pool where the Swan family; parents and 6 cygnets were alseep on the bank next to the bench where the feathers that Lawrence mentioned were strewn about. I had noticed these earlier in the week. From the amount of droppings it looks as though the birds spend some time there and the feathers could possiblly be from an early moult. So perhaps not too much to worry about.

Also of note on the Bollin, upstream the flats at Bollington mill, 10's of House Martins taking insects. In previous years House Martins have nested in the eaves of the flats but not this year so it was good to see them. Downstream the flats, also feeding over the river a group of 15 - 20 Sand Martins stayed around for a time.



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Thanks Steven, I ask as we have had real problems with Mink in the park. Last year they took all the 9 Cygnets from 2 pairs on Smithy and Island Pools. If there is ever evidence of Mink we let the Rangers know and they deal with the issue ASAP. I am not saying this was Mink but it is worth asking.

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Lawrence Hindley wrote:

Just seen your post Steven so will just add a few more birds seen while on duty as a Park Guide in the park this afternoon

1 Grey Wagtail by the mill
3 Sand Martins over Smithy Pool
2 Mistle Thrush on top path
2 Buzzard on top path
1 Treecreeper near Langham Grove

Also observed 2 Carrion Crows trying to predate the Mallard Ducklings on Smithy. However the female Mallard was aggressively attacking them, but she was being vigorously assisted by the Cobb Swan who was being very aggressive toward them as well. There were many white swan feathers strewn about as well which seemed to show that the Swan may have had an altercation with something bigger earlier. If you or anybody has any information on this it would be appreciated?





hi Lawrence, I noticed all the mute swan feathers whilst I was watching the pool, everything seemed calm, so obviously must of happened before I arrived.

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Just seen your post Steven so will just add a few more birds seen while on duty as a Park Guide in the park this afternoon

1 Grey Wagtail by the mill
3 Sand Martins over Smithy Pool
2 Mistle Thrush on top path
2 Buzzard on top path
1 Treecreeper near Langham Grove

Also observed 2 Carrion Crows trying to predate the Mallard Ducklings on Smithy. However the female Mallard was aggressively attacking them, but she was being vigorously assisted by the Cobb Swan who was being very aggressive toward them as well. There were many white swan feathers strewn about as well which seemed to show that the Swan may have had an altercation with something bigger earlier. If you or anybody has any information on this it would be appreciated?

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7.30-12-30pm.

golf course & forest...

4 great spotted woodpeckers
1 jay chasing juvenile coal tits !
3 treecreepers
nuthatches all over the place.
3 chiffchaffs
several blackcaps around inc 1 male feeding 2 fledglings.
1 buzzard
2 goldcrests
5 song thrushes
plus all the usuals around with lots of juveniles.

deer park...

3 green woodpeckers
6-7 great spotted woodpeckers
1 kestrel
1 jay
1 kingfisher
1 pied wagtail
6 grey herons

smithy pool... 2 mute swans + 6 juveniles, 4 tufted ducks, 2 swallows.

island pool... 2 tufted ducks + 5 juveniles, 1 little grebe.

plus all the usuals around, plus jackdaws seem to have taken over the deer park, no crows or rooks seen hmm

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1 Green Woodpecker (poor fleeting views), 1 Buzzard (mobbed by corvids) and 2 Nuthatch were today's highlights

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sid ashton wrote:

On an evening stroll along the canal behind the park a Common Tern passed us a couple of times. Never seen one in that area previously.





They seem to be fairly regular at Manor Farm fishery over the road from the Vine Pub Sid. I've seen them there a few times in the past when my son fishes whilst I bird! biggrin

-- Edited by Phil Owen on Thursday 19th of June 2014 12:04:37 AM

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On an evening stroll along the canal behind the park a Common Tern passed us a couple of times. Never seen one in that area previously.

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Originally posted today by John Barber:

Coming back from Altrincham sewage works to Lymm there is a ploughed field on the left down Henshall lane ( first turning past Red House Farm ) with a pair of Grey Partridge and several Wheatear feeding on it this afternoon.


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