Parakeet flew squawking loudly over Smiths fields this morning closely pursued by a magpie. Suspect it was heading for a garden near the allotments where there are a lot of feeders.
Plat Fields park would be a good bet Nigel. There were two being very vocal in the trees around the edge of the lake at 5.40pm today. At 6.45 the Amazon arrived at the allotment with 6 ring necks. Complete feeding chaos ensued. There were 2 males, 4 ringless of which either 2 or 3 were juveniles. They were flying round and changing feeders so much I couldn't keep track of which was which. They are being voracious eating machines and all I could hear was the sound of cracking sunflower seeds punctuated by one of the juvenile's VERY persistent attention seeking calls. There is on of these birds in particular which just does not shut up. That's probably the one which I heard in Platt Fields. So Nigel, go for an evening stroll and listen out for "Junior". 3 of them left the allotment at 7pm the other 3 were still there when I left.
been LOOKING for the parekeets count less times I saw two when decorating at the girls school they where in the grounds in the trees over looking the lake at platt fields since then i have tried three parks and never seen them since any advice as to when and where ?????????????????????????
You're not wrong there Rob! I don't even want to think about, let alone admit to just how much bird food I buy. At least 3 very vocal parakeets up one of the big trees on the allotment at 7.45pm. I was only there for a short time and they had not come down to feed by the time I left but it seems like they are coming round for "supper" again. It is quite possible that they have done this all summer long but I have not been at the allotment late enough to see them.
7.30 - 8pm today - 5 parakeets and the Amazon at the allotment. 1 adult male, 1 female, 2 with very short tails which looked very much like juveniles to me and another one which I could not get a good enough look at. Looked like a family group to me
I have not seen the Parakeets or the Amazon since May, but today at 5pm the Amazon and 3 Parakeets came down to the allotment feeders. 1 male, 1 female and the other one had a very short tail and I am pretty sure that it was a juvenile. The were scared off after a while but came back an sat up a tree calling. One of the calls was different to the other types of call which they make and sounded like a young bird's persistent begging type of call. I'll keep a good look out now, but I think we have a young un out and about. The Amazon was it's usual acrobatic and cheeky self and seemed quite happy for me to be working quite close to it. Debs
Great to see those pictures which you took again Rob. I'm hoping if they are breeding now that we may get to see bigger groups of them at the allotment again this autumn. I saw the Amazon again at the allotment at about 6pm yesterday. Hanging upside down as usual eating sunflower seeds just a few feet away from me. I hadn't even realised it was there until after I had walked straight past him and he just carried on eating. Great powers of observation - 3 feet away from large green parrot and didn't notice it.
A friend told me they had recently seen 5 green "parrots" from their gaden on Cecil Road in Hale - the birds alighting in a large horse chestnut alongside the railway.
Not seen as much of the parakeets at the allotment recently, but saw 1 male 1 female this afternoon. Followed by 1 male early evening and the Amazon (who I've not seen for a few weeks) flew in at 7.15pm.
regarding posting from your phone Tim, a thread in the discussions section would be benificial rather than taking up space on this Parakeet thread and I for one shall see you over there
Rather late post but one over Horton Road N at 11am Sun and making it onto my 'garden' list as I was standing at my front door! Tried to post this via web access on new Sony Cyber-Shot phone but it wasn't having it. Can anyone else post off their phone?
Don't know what has happened to the Amazon's manners. When ever it comes to feed at the allotment it must be on its best behaviour. It arrived on Saturday pm with one male parakeet and surprised me by landing in my apple tree just above my head to watch me top up the feeders. One male, one female parakeet on the feeders at 5.15pm today. I am seeing them frequently now that the days are getting longer but usually in ones, twos or threes, some times with and sometimes without the Amazon, but not the big groups that I was seeing in the Autumn.
it was certainly very loud yesterday (by the way, my wife has pointed out is was orange not green - colour blindness gets in the way of my birding a bit!)
what was interesting was that the parrot seemed to be trying to split up the two parakeets that were nuzzling and preening, rather than the one that was one its own - maybe frisky and jealous!
You know, you might be right. It was perched up a tree making the most incredible racket (this bird is LOUD) yesterday and I thought it was just making a fuss because it wanted to come down and feed and someone was a bit close to its feeder. Maybe it was calling for a mate. It sounded like it was trying to be heard in South America!
That sounds very weird. I have seen a great deal of the Amazon and Parakeets together over the last year and I have never seen any aggression towards each other. I saw the Amazon on the feeders twice this afternoon. Once on its own and once with three Parakeets. They all flew in together, fed together and flew out together. I've never seen the Amazon have a go at anything. How odd. The Amazon has a very short tail compared with a Parakeet and what is not very evident from the avatar is the orange patches in its wings which are very obvious if it flies away with its back to you and noticeable but smaller orange sections in its tail.
Sunny Saturday morning, 10am in Alexandra Park Whalley Range - 3 parakeets on the lime walk near the pond, two nuzzling each other, then all three being mobbed by large parrot with green tail (any ideas ?) for about 10 mins - bullied parakeets then took it out on a poor woodpecker drumming on the next door tree! Lovely spring sighting.
Gus An Orange Winged Amazon has been seen with groups of Parakeets since early July 2008 and has been a very regular visitor to the feeders at the allotment. It hangs upside down from the top of the feeder pole to eat sunflower seeds and is also very fond of the apples which I put on the end of the pole for it. I've seen captive Orange Wings recently and I'm sure the bird I see is one of them. He (?) is a real character! Debs
Just reviewed the Dec 9th picture of Ringnecks taken in Alexandra Park and have realized that 1 was actually an Amazon!
Comparing to the Wikipedia pictures - the small red flecks on the leading edge of the wing and the base of the tail are consistent with the Yellow Shouldered that has been reported (Unfortunately the bird firmly kept its back turned so I couldn't see face or "shoulder") though the nape seems rather gray.
Incidentally, the Ringnecks definitely have "bill all red" which might suggest subsp. borealis.
Just to expand on the feral status, quoting a chunk from wikipedia:
'Feral Rose-ringed Parakeets
The Rose-ringed Parakeet has established feral populations in India, a number of European cities, South Africa and Japan. There are also apparently stable populations in the USA in Florida and California, and a small but self-sustaining population in Tehran, Iran, mostly concentrated in the northern parts of city. They are also found almost throughout Israel.
The European populations became established during the mid to late 20th Century from introduced and escaped birds. There are two main population centres in Britain: the largest is based around south London, Surrey and Berkshire, and by 2005 consisted of many thousands of birds, known as the Kingston parakeets. A smaller population occurs around Margate, Broadstairs and Ramsgate, Kent. Elsewhere in Britain, smaller feral populations have established from time to time (e.g., at Studland, Dorset, Kensington Gardens, and South Manchester). It has been suggested that feral parrots could endanger populations of native British birds, and that the Rose-ringed Parakeet could even be culled as a result.
In the Netherlands and Belgium, there exist a network of feral populations numbering 5-6000 each in urbanized areas. In Germany, these birds are found along the Rhine in all major urban areas like Cologne and Heidelberg, Wiesbaden and in the northeast of Hamburg. Other populations are found around Paris and in Barcelona.
The specimens in these naturalized populations often represent intra-specific hybrids, originally between varying numbers - according to locality - of the subspecies manillensis, borealis, and/or (to a lesser extent) krameri along with[verification needed] some inter-specific hybrids with naturalized Psittacula eupatria (Alexandrine Parakeet).
However, in some parts of South Asia - from where the Rose-ringed Parakeets originated, populations of these birds are decreasing due to trapping for the pet trade. Despite some people's attempts to revive their population by freeing these birds from local markets, the Rose-ringed Parakeet's population has dropped drastically in many areas of the Indian subcontinent.'
This puts South Manchester on the map in an international context !
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Had me going for a minute there Tim as 'Inskipp, Lindsey & Duckworth (1996) An Annotated Checklist to the Birds of the Oriental Region' gives no mention to the race manillensis. To quote a chunk of Wikipedia here they could be either P. k. borealis or manillensis. Anybody got BWP ?.
'Phylogeny and distribution Four subspecies are recognized, though they do not differ much:
African subspecies: (P. krameri krameri): African-ringnecked (aka ARN) Parakeet : West Africa in Guinea, Senegal and southern Mauritania, east to Western Uganda, Eastern South Africa, and Southern Sudan.
(P. krameri parvirostris): Abyssinian-ringnecked (aka Aby-RN) Parakeet : Northwest Somalia, west across northern Ethiopia to Sennar district, Sudan.
Asian subspecies: (P. krameri manillensis): Indian-ringnecked (aka IRN) Parakeet : Originates from the southern Indian subcontinent; and has feral and/or naturalized populations worldwide. In Australia, United States, and other western countries, it is often referred to as the Indian Ring-Necked Parakeet/Parrot.
(P. krameri borealis): boreal or Neumann's ringnecked (aka BRN) Parakeet :Bangladesh, northern India and Nepal to central Burma; introduced populations worldwide in localities.
A phylogenetic analysis using DNA (see Psittacula) showed that the Mauritius Parakeet (Psittacula echo) is closely related to this species, and probably needs to be placed between the African and Asian subspecies. Consequently, this species is paraphyletic.'
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There are 4 recognised subspecies of Psittacula krameri: krameri, originally Senegal, E Guinea to W Uganda and S Sudan, S Mauritania (where named in 1769); parvirostris CE Sudan through Ethiopia, Eritrea and Djibouti to NW Somalia; borealis NW Pakistan E through N India, Nepal and C Myanmar to SE China and manillensis Indian Peninsular S of 20 degrees N and Sri Lanka. Feral in Africa, Arabia, W Pal and W Asia, Mauritius, Hong Kong, Macao and Singapore. Uncertainty as to which races involved but generally thought to be borealis. Borealis the larger subspecies with ,more blue on head, more greyish green below and bill usually all red.
I took photos of three Ring-necks in Alexandra Park in early December.
Also have had a pair of Crimson Rosellas coming to feeders in my garden in Whalley Range occasionally over the past week. I have some fairly good pics.
At last! Managed to get into the park on my crutches as far as a bench by the lake for about 4pm. At least 2 Parakeets heard in the area of trees around the warden's house at a distance but not seen. Then on the way back at 4.45pm 3 flew over MC training ground headed NE probably then veering towards Whitworth Park. BUT they had come over Yew Tree Road from the SE and not from the park so that's interesting.
Grateful to be able to make make my first posted sightings for 2009 and add Blackbird, Robin, Tufties, Canadas, Mallards to the year list.
5 Parakeets (2 males and 3 ringless) and the Amazon on the feeders on the allotment today. They all flew off in the direction of Platt Fields at 3.50pm. They were certainly in good voice this afternoon!
thanks for info Debs and everyone else. Will concentrate on sensory garden and orchard area. Will post when i connect. My screams will be heard first, much louder than the parakeets!(370 on British list) Will respect privacy of THE allotments and the allotmenteers. Now I know allotments are not visible from toastrack, I had connected those allotments with toastrack cos of vicinity of Platt fields and the find of a dead "parrott" YOU CAN IMAGINE THE PUNS) at work.
Gary, on Sat 3rd Jan the Amazon and Parakeets flew over the allotment from the Withington direction. It was the first time I had seen them head in from that direction.
Three flew over Christie Hospital, Withington heading East at 09.30 Monday morning. Possibly heading towards Fog Lane park. First time I've seen them over Withington. Shame I wasn't in my office so I could add them to my office list.
The other reliable spot is the small orchard area between the car park and the wardens' compound - alongside the ancient Nico Ditch. Anyone wishing to connect will do so after a few visits - a matter of timing. If they are about you will hear them first! Look down this thread to see their movements from the allotments to the park. Believe me just forget about the allotments for viewing as they are private, gated and you will not be able to see in from the path anyway. Declan and Rob see the other party on most visits to Alex Park too.
I think that Debs is being cautious about the location of her allotment because there is no public access, and the arrival of birding visitors might cause friction with other allotment holders - we have to remember that as well as clearing out Deb's feeders they will eat any other fruit or seeds around - not necessarily welcomed by crop growing allotmenteers.
Platt Fields Park (and Alex Park) are both pretty reliable sites so with a couple of visits everyone should connect.
The Sensory Garden is on the far side of the lake from the Manchester High entrance, there is a small sign if you walk around the lake.
Could you tell me where the allotments are?I regularly go down Platt Lane and pass Platt Fields.Are the allotments anywhere near the junction with Yew Tree Road?
Hi Kath No, the allotments which I post about are not the ones near the Toast rack, they are in Fallowfield not too far from Platt Fields. Unfortunately they not viewable from the road. When the birds leave the allotment they always fly off in the direction of Platt Fields, so that would be a good bet. My partner cycles thought there on his way to work and often sees them flying over. I am not sure where the Sensory Garden is but Pete posts sightings of them from there, so he must know. Good luck
I work at the toastrack and have been trying to see ring necks in Platt fields for a while but never connected. last there Sat 10th January. Are the allotments u mention the ones i can see from toastrack from Cromwell range?
Where is the sensory garden in Plattfields, loked at al the interpretation boards and signs but none signed sensory garden. Is it called by another name?
ps we had a dead ring necked within grounds of toastrack in January 2007 - a window strike by looks of corpse.