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RE: ASTLEY, CHAT AND IRLAM MOSSES


late post for late pm Fri - one Wheatear and 400 Starlings Hepzibah Fm area. Got soaked as I'd forgotten my waterproofs.

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Quail singing in barley field along Astley Road last night and this morning south of Olive Mount Farm.

This morning:200 Greenfinch in harvested bean/pea field north of Olive Mount Fm
450+ Swift feeding

Last night 350 Lapwing on turf fields, Irlam Moss

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F24 was buzzing with birds this afternoon, they appear to be havesting the turf, large numbers of lapwing bh gulls and starling,

No Storks.

buzzard giving the woodpigeons a scare.

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Grasshopper warbler is still singing at the junction of Nook lane and Rindle road this evening at 9.30pm.Also Barn owl sat on post in the horse paddock between Nook lane and Moss lane.

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I went looking for Owls tonight on the mosses and found 6 Little owls and 1 Tawny owl but no Barn owls.
The Little owls were seen at;

1 perched on a post in f15,
3 perched on the large wooden fence at the side of Olive Mount farm,
1 on the wrought iron fence at Red Chalis farm,
1 sat on a small caravan next to Moss Side farm.

The Tawny owl flew out of Rindle woods and went over f69.

Also while watching 4 Hares in the field next to Rindle woods I notice 5 Herons in the same field hunting together in the grass close to the pigeon coop.

Tawny owl heard along Moss lane and 1 Weasel seen running across the road.

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Irlam moss
20 + Goldfinches flying in to f70
Yellow wagtail in f23
2 Buzzards sat on posts at the rear of f12
2 Kestrels hunting over f17

Chat moss
Song thrush singing next to Red Chalis farm.
2 Grey partridge in f59

Astley moss
Field 69
8 Yellowhammers
5 Reedbuntings
11 Tree sparrows
2 Grey Partridge

Bedford moss
2 Buzzards sat in the trees
2 Yellow wagtails over

Also 2 boxing Hares in the field along side Rindle woods opposite the new farm developement.

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grasshopper warbler reeling in the rough field opposite the junction of nook lane and rindle road this evening

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Two broods of Tufted Ducklings (8 + 6) on the R. Glaze at Little Woolden Hall today.
Two Hobbies together on Worsley Moss today which looked like juvs - but surely too early?

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Adult Peregrine hunting over the fields along Moss Lane at 2.45pm today.Also numbers of Tree Sparrows and Yellowhammer along Rindle Road by Rindle Farm,also Buzzards and Sparrowhawk in the area.

-- Edited by pete berry at 16:28, 2008-07-10

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Hobby over Higher Green Lane,Astley at 3.45 pm today.

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Afternoon visit to Chat, Irlam and Barton Moss (by bike), 24/06

3 pairs of Yellow Wagtails
5 Buzzard
2 Corn Bunting
21 singing male Yellowhammer
1 Hobby- soaring for ages over Astley Road until a combination of arm ache and the bird being too high forced me to move on.
1 Sparrowhawk

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Locally known as "clegs", vicious and biting. Astley Moss SSSI is known for them and best avoided at this time of year...

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4.30-6pm
Very quiet on the mosses this afternoon for birding.
4 Buzzards over Astley moss
1 Sparrowhawk
1 Kestrel
4 Yellowhammers
3 Reedbuntings
1 Willow warbler
1 Whitethroat
6 Pied wagtails
1 Roosting Barn owl
3 Jays
4 Hares

After walking about in the shoulder high ferns I found a variety of rather large insects attached to my clothing , some which I have not seen before and hopefully I will not see again as I am now covered in bites, so much for summer birdingsmile.gif

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Out with my birding class (7-10pm) with Peter Baron.
Around Astley and over the railway lines,seen and heard over twenty species including the Hobby virtually the same time as Ian (Mc).
Peter and l were the only ones to see a Tawny Owl flying into the woods biggrin.gif

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Hobby finally this evening, after spending time every day in May around the area I was beginning to think my luck was out but one flew right across the car whilst Pete Berry and I were making our way along Nook Lane at about 7:15pm, briefly chased a small passerine before making it's way north-east across the southern edge of the tip.

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Finally got out of work this afternoon for a quick look at the mosses.

No Quail but 2 RL Partridge beside 12 yards road
2 Yellow wagtails

Also seen but locations withheld

Adult Little owl with 2 chicks
Roosting Barn owl
Adult Tawny owl with 2 chicks , one chick sat on the ground in the open with 2 Magpies dancing around it so I moved it under cover where the parent could see it.About 25 minutes later the parent bird came down and sat just above the chick.

3 Oystercatchers over Astley road
6 Buzzards and 1 Curlew over Astley moss



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an enjoyable walk around Irlam Moss this evening along Astley Rd/ Twelve Yards Rd as far as Barton Moss farm.

A Quail was calling at 8pm from field 17 but impossible to see- presumably same as in F16 yesterday.

Just as the rain really set in at 9.45, 2 Woodcock began roding along the edge of the woods adjacent to Moss Farm/ Chat Moss.smile.gif

Also seen/ heard:

Little Owl on farm buildings, Moss Farm
Tawny Owl heard 'kewick'-ing
RL Partridge 1 - Moss Farm
Grey Partridge 2, F14
Reed Bunting 3
Yellowhammer 10+
Tree Sparrow 3
Linnet 2
lots of Whitethroats in song


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Quail singing this afternoon from f16 on Irlam Moss heard from Twelve Yards Rd. F16 is now in half - 1 half boardering f44 is livestock / tall vegetation and the half near Twelve Yards is crops - the bird appears to be singing from the tall vegetation area but is not visible.

Info thanks to Steve Nelson.

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Sunday afternoon the main thing was spectacular dust storms from the dry ploughed fields

A few Tree Sparrows Rindle Rd and a Buzzard

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tree pipet had unfortunatly stopped displaying when I eventually found the spot 8.30
-9.15 furious.gif:but i,m confident I can tick pipet poo on my listwink.gif

cheers geoffbiggrin.gif

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Tree Pipit still singing and parachuting from same telegraph pole at 5pm today. A female stonechat and 6 tree sparrow were in the adjacent field (F16?).

Further east along 12 Yards Rd, 48 Stock Dove and a Cuckoo were in field north of Bartonmoss Farm. 2 pairs of Grey Partridge along 12 Yards Rd.

Spotted Flycatcher at Olive Mount farm, where also 2 Grey Partridge

2 Grey Partridge, 1 R L Partridge, 2 yellowhammer and a Kestrel were in the field alongside the road, behind the building site on Rindle Rd (not named on the map).

15 Lapwing and 2 Oystercatcher in F67

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Dave Thacker said "good to see that your varifocals are working"

Used my ear trumpet to pick that one up Dave.

Any other Tree Pipts been spotted yet?

How about Lesser Whitethroat.? I've had just one (on Millennium Green) and somebody reported one by Rindle Road. Any others?

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Tree pipit present until at least 1pm this afternoon. Favouring the fourth telegraph post on the RHS. Providing excellent views and loards of parachuting displays with fanned tailed and legs dangling!!

Also, plenty of swifts knocking about plus whitethroat, yellowhammer, tree sparrow, chaffinch, goldfinch, magpie, stock dove, reed bunting and kestrel.

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Cheers Dave, my internet was down when I got home (must feed mice more often) so wasn't able to double check the call/ song. Good to meet you to and thanks again for the lift.

We also had Little Owl sat on stakes in the horse paddock - very well marked plus at least two grey partridge calling and feeding on the ploughed field on the LHS and presumably one of the same birds but maybe a third in the horse paddock. Lapwing and yellowhammer were also knocking about as well as parachuting meadow pipit and whitethroat.

Also saw another two grey partridge in a horse at the top of Roscoe Road very close to the road.

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Went straight from work tonight to have a good look at Alans Tree pipit. Waited for about an hour with Iain Johnson until a pipit flew up and perched on the 4th telegraph pole along 12 yards road at 8 pm. It sang for a while then flew up and parachuted down in to the grass with its tail feathers slightly fanned out but no sign of the dangling legs at the end of the flight. Ive just listened to its song again on the BBC website which confirms to me that it was the Tree pipit that we saw tonight.
We also had good views of Grey partridge and a Little owl this evening.

Excellent find Alan, good to see that your varifocals are workingbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
And nice to meet you Iain smile.gif

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07.00 - 09.45

Tree Pipit still singing as I left at 09.45 (favours 3rd telegraph pole on RHS heading northeast along Twelve Yards Rd in Field 16)

Elsewhere:

Field 52
Yellowhammer 6 feeding in loose flock
Grey Partridge 2

Field 62
Lesser Black-backed Gull 23

Field 67
Tree Sparrow 2
Cuckoo 2 (calling and chasing each other)
Red-legged Partridge 2

Field 68
Curlew 2
Oystercatcher 1

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Tree Pipit still present, singing along 12 yard road at 7am today.

Info thanks to Mark Rigby.

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Glad you enjoyed it Mr Heaton, although its sad that Tree Pipits are so scarce on the mosslands nowadays they (or it?) has acquired celeb; status.




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Well done Mr Rowley, bet you never thought your post would start a twitch, I left me sunday dinner for itweirdface.gif

Mr Woosey Mr Mc Kerchar stayed on site till Mr Collins arrived all in all a nice bird, county lifer for some may madness bird for others an excellent little year list blighter for me.

Tree sparrow in same area.

Keep birding.biggrin.gif

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I saw this bird at about noon on Friday 16th singing up from telegraph poles and parachuting down either to the same pole or the next one along and thought it might be a Tree Pipit but lack of familiarity with the species led me to leave it unidentified when it went down in the field.

Thank you for confirming the ID - a county first for me!

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tree pipit still present 6pm singing its little head off from telegraph poles along 12 yards road, approx 120 metres west from raspberry lane. Also getting in the rough field south of the road, parachuting whilst singing the full lot, a nice and all too scarce bird and a very good find

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Tree Pipit singing bold as brass from the top of a telegraph pole on Twelve yards road at SJ710959 this AM.

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9-10.30am
Field 68
Wheatear 1
Grey partridge 2
Lapwings 7

Field 69
Two Curlew were joined by a pair of Whimbrel at 9.40am, the Whimbrel only stayed 10 minutes then flew north.
Lapwings 13
Grey partridge 4
Cuckoo briefly on a fence post, they were calling non stop this morning.
Yellowhammer 8
Whitethroat 3
Reedbuntings 4
Skylark 1
Pied wags 6
Buzzards 9 seen in total with 6 in the air at the same time.

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couple of grey partridge and buzzard on irlam mosses and kestrel running around a ploughed field.

plenty of whitethroat.

keep birding.

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Spotted Flycatcher off Moss Lane this afternoon around Allwood Farm but typically very elusive.

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Nice sunny stroll round this afternoon, lots of lapwing, a cacophony of warblers singing most whitethroat,
2 curlew
1 hobby tried to claim points for this but was told it had been seen already, however when I check the points list its not on anyway.

buzzards etc. but no sign of any tree pipits elusive buggers
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Regarding dogs the Guard dog act 1975 says dogs must be tethered or with a person who can control them,
The dangerous dogs act 1991 says any dog at large in a public place may be classed as a dangerous dog,
either way I am afraid its the police and the dog wardens you need to speak to, I am just a welfare man.

keep away from the dogs



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Dogs - I strongly advise anyone who is pestered by dogs on the mosslands whilst on a public road or footpath, or on legal business visiting a farm or other dwelling, to contact the council footpaths officer, or the police, or both. The boundary between the local authorities of Wigan and Salford is the canal boat on dry land at Red Chalis Farm (has been there since time immemorial - they must be waiting for the Flood!!) Numerous people have been bitten (including self) and the whole situation needs tightening up.

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Thanks for telling us about your day on the bike Tim. Quite an example you are setting to us all there! 44 miles is beyond even comprehension for me (because i'm just too lazy) but don't drive so bike and bus is the only way.
Could using a bus count as 'eco' for the race?
Good luck for your race.
Thanks. Henry.

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Getting in training for my eco-daywink.gifrode out to Astley Moss via Carrington Moss from Moss Side/Rusholme border where I live - 44 miles round trip. Legs a bit tired. I'm not really any sort of athlete and a bit old for heroics.

Anyway a chap who gave his name as Mr.Hayes of Sale has also been putting down seed at the feeding station which, Craig, is just some seed scattered on the track off Rindle Rd not an obvious collection of hanging feeders. No birds were coming to it. The trees have been knackred by a hedge trimmer needed to get some farm kit down to the field where the Whimbrel were.

Grey Partridge 2

Garden Warbler on the wire on Rindle Rd singing right above my head and carrying nesting material at the same time. How do they do that?

Cuckooo heard in belt of trees E of Rindle Rd.

Lots of good things on the way. Equalled my record for birding in Gtr Mcr by public transport so well pleasedbiggrin.gifNot a drop of fuel was spent.

Still no Whinchat or L. Whitethroat for me though.

Is it compulsory to keep huge numbers of 'over -friendly' dogs out that way? They don't like bikes.confused.gif

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LOS PROVIDES THE FOOD FOR RINDLE FEEDING STATION,AND BUNTING HIDE AT PENNY,AND THE COST ,PLUS AS IAN SAID NATURAL FOOD THROUGH THE SUMMER,IS WHY IT STOPS AT TIMES.I THINK IT TAKES UP A LOT OF THE LOS RESAUCES TO KEEP THE FEEDING GOING AS MEMBERSHIP IS NOT WHAT IT ONCE WAS.cry.gif

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Ian Campbell wrote:

Just curious, but who puts th food out and why is it not done at this time of the year?.
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I believe it is Eddie King on behalf of the Leigh Ornithiological Society which puts the seed down. At this time of year the birds are more than capable of finding their own food as there's plenty about but in winter food can be much scarcer, hence the feeding then. I doubt it's cheap either, so there's no point feeding if it's not entirely necesary.

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Ian McKerchar wrote:

The feeding station isn't really in use this time of year Craig as I'm sure you can imagine and Yellow Wags and Corn Bunts are pretty uncommon north of the railway but Yellowhammers are nearly always about and Cuckoos continue a high profile (they were around today), you must have picked a quite daydoh.gif No whimbrels the past couple of days though cry.gif






Cheers Ian. Must admit it was more hope than expectation when I called and it was quite windy when I arrived. Most stuff was keeping its head down it seemed, and as I had just finsihed work I still had my dancing shoes on so didnt venture off the nice tarmac too much wink.gif

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Just curious, but who puts th food out and why is it not done at this time of the year?.
cheers Ian

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The feeding station isn't really in use this time of year Craig as I'm sure you can imagine and Yellow Wags and Corn Bunts are pretty uncommon north of the railway but Yellowhammers are nearly always about and Cuckoos continue a high profile (they were around today), you must have picked a quite daydoh.gif No whimbrels the past couple of days though cry.gif

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Cheers Iain

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Craig,

Its on Rindle Road, on the RH side about 100 metres before the railway lines/ level crossing. There is a (blue) bar gate across a track. You are allowed to walk down the track and this leads to Rindle Wood.

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Quick walk round N of the railway this afternoon - very dissapointing.

3 Wheatears and about 150 Woodpigeon in Field 68
3 Pied Wags in Field 67
2 Oystercatchers in the field behind field 69.
1 Tree Sparrow along Rindle Road just N of the 'building site'.
1 kestrel blogging about.
Flock of c15-20 Goldfinch along Rindle road near Shooters Grove.
Crows and Lapwings here and there.

No Yellow Wags, No yellowhammers, No Corn Bunts cry.gif

Can someone please tell me where this fabled feeding station is? Someone I spoke to suggested Olive Mount Farm South of the Railway but wasnt sure.

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6.00 - 8.30 pm

Rindle Rd

F68
Wheatear- 3
Oystercatcher - 1
Curlew - 1
Stock Dove - 18
Woodpigeon - c70
Skylark - 2
Yellowhammer - 4
Grey Partridge - 2
Pied Wagtail - 2
Sand Martin - 10
Kestrel -1


F69
Cuckoo - 1
Mistle Thrush - 5
Stock Dove - 4
Curlew - 2
Yellowhammer - 2
Tree Sparrow - 6
Lesser Whitethroat singing by roadside

Blackcap (4), Chiffchaff (3), Garden Warbler (1) Willow Warbler (2), Whitethroat (7) all singing
3 Swifts over
total of 26 Lapwing


Moss Lane
Whinchat - male on fence of large horse paddock
Little Owl - in large oak at end of Moss Lane
Lapwing - c20 incl 4 chicks in large ploughed field adjacent to Astley Moss
Cuckoo calling
Buzzard over
Skylark - 4
Red-legged Partridge - 1
(also Brown Hare on the horse paddock)



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late message for yesterday ( got locked out again.)

Whinchat male at olive mount farm astley road,
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Rindle Rd area - 4.30 - 5.15pm

A Hobby flew over F68 at 5pm smile.gif, disappeared over the trees in direction of the peat works.

Also present on F68:
Yellow Wagtail - 1 male
Wheatear - 6, all males
Kestrel
Stock Dove - 6
Woodpigeon - c30
Mistle Thrush - 2
Pied Wagtail - 3
Tree Sparrow - 3
Lapwing - 7

F69/ Horse Paddock
Buzzard - feeding on the ground
Cuckoo - flew over
Whimbrel -2
Curlew - 1 flew over, calling
Oystercatcher -1
Sparrowhawk over
Lapwing - 9
Mallard - pair
Yellowhammer -4
Tree Sparrow - 3
Whitethroat 1
Swallow - 4
Sand Martin - 2

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