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RE: Etherow Country Park and Nature Reserve


Car park -hide. 7.15-8.45:
40+ Mandarin Duck
Kingfisher
Dipper pair
15 Swallow
10 House Martin
Egyptian Goose


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A quick jaunt round Etherow at 13:30 for 2 hours, so only up round Ernocroft and then to the hide.

A couple of large tit flocks mainly consisting of Long tailed Tit's and Coal Tit's but with a few Blue and Great tit's thrown in for good measure. Accompanying them were good numbers of Goldcrest, Nuthatch and Treecreeper.

Other than that not much to report.

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Tonight 7.30-9.00pm 1 egyption goose sat at the top of the weir on the log/twigs 3 grey wagtail 2 grey heron on the pond near the hide 1 kingfisher 1 wren and 1 jay from the hide but the highlight for me was 4 dipper including 2 juvenile around the weir area all in my binocular view together at one time.

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Was great to see the Egyptian goose last night and at the weekend, my first such sightings. Also had great views of a kingfisher from the hide last night.

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The egyptian goose 'Ernie' is definately not the same bird as the one at Platt Fields. I visited both areas one day last year and both were present.
Good to have him back at Etherow. Ive noticed the mute swans usually dont tolerate him during the breeding season and he is often alone during this time. The same happened last year. Hopefully they'll be buddies again soon.

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Andrew Johnson wrote:

I have memories of multiple Egyptian Geese being at Etherow going back perhaps around thirty years. Does anyone know the history of their being at this site?
I feel sorry for this last one, who seems a real character; perching on the feeding station in the nature reserve or honking noisily constantly. Pity someone with a wildfowl collection can't donate him a mate!





I think it was council driven. When I first moved to Romiley in 1986, I recall visiting the park and there being a range of 'tame' ducks and geese. Pintail I remember vividly, and I'm fairly sure about wood duck (and maybe mandarin). I have a photograph from about that time of an Egyptian goose taken in ECP. Within very few years none of them remained.

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I have memories of multiple Egyptian Geese being at Etherow going back perhaps around thirty years. Does anyone know the history of their being at this site?
I feel sorry for this last one, who seems a real character; perching on the feeding station in the nature reserve or honking noisily constantly. Pity someone with a wildfowl collection can't donate him a mate!

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Bit of a late post, I visited a friend (& birder) who lives overlooking Etherow CP on 27th June this year. We walked down to Keg Pool where to my surprise the Egyptian Goose was stood on a half submerged branch not far from the path. I had read about him being taken away to get his foot sorted & hadn't expected him to be back so soon! So he was definitely back in the park on 27th June................................... unless we have a two bird theory biggrin

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Thanks, Keith. All these Egyptian Geese ... I wonder where the current incumbent came from? I hear he had a mate, who died a couple of years ago and he kind of bonded with some mute swans. Presumably there were no chicks from that liaison, unless Eugene 2/3 is a blood descendent of Eugene 1 (?). As Juan Domingo Perón said, ¡El pueblo quiere saber de qué se trata! (well he spoke Spanish - in English, 'The people want to know what's going on!').

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I have heard of recent (last two or three years) of Egyptian goose (or geese?) in both Platt Fields park and also Salford Quays. Would this be the same bird or are there/have there been others.

I am a newcomer to the area and don't know the history, but was made curious by the reference to 'Eugene 2 or 3'. Just idle curiosity, but if anyone has the energy to answer I'd be interested.





Eugene was the regular Egyptian Goose, at this site for many years and died in 2011. Locals were attached to it, and one Lady had it's ashes in a casket tied with blue ribbon.


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I have heard of recent (last two or three years) of Egyptian goose (or geese?) in both Platt Fields park and also Salford Quays. Would this be the same bird or are there/have there been others.

I am a newcomer to the area and don't know the history, but was made curious by the reference to 'Eugene 2 or 3'. Just idle curiosity, but if anyone has the energy to answer I'd be interested.

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Great shot. Wonder how many names it has?





Could be ''Eugene 2'' or is it 3?

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Great shot. Wonder how many names it has?

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Nice to meet you yesterday Chris, the Egyptian goose gave me a fly past about 10 minutes after you had gone

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Thanks, Chris. Guess his foot is better now. I'll be up there tomorrow to say hello to him!


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Good old Ernie. Was in the top pond near the cottage. The one with the sunken barge in it. Good to see 'him' back.

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Ah, the Egyptian goose is back! Where did you spot him, Chris?

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An enjoyable but ultimately fruitless search for Pied Flycatcher around sunny corner this morning, with similar birds to yesterday. However, in addition were:
2+ Kingfisher
2 Little Grebe
Egyptian Goose
4 Tufted Duck

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9-10.30 Main car park to cwt hide:
40+ mandarin
Goosander
Dipper
2 Grey Wagtail
Kingfisher reportedly on 2nd brood
2+ bullfinch
Blackcap
Chiffchaff
2 Nuthatch
5 swallow
Cormorant
Many young of more common species about.

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9-10.30 Main car park to cwt hide:
40+ mandarin
Goosander
Dipper
Kingfisher reportedly on 2nd brood
2+ bullfinch
Blackcap
Chiffchaff
5 swallow
Cormorant
Many young of more common species about.

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Thanks, Nick - not disappointed as I am learning. I'll put this down to experience smile.

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Sorry to disappoint but that's a Jackdaw.

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I'm far from an expert - check the pic here and see what you think.

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Hooded? There are a few crows there with a lot of white in the wing, could it be these?

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In Etherow County Park today (Mon 23 June) looking for the Egyptian Goose, which the park wardens told me has an infected foot and has been taken into rehab but should be released when recovered.


Surprised to see hooded crows here - at least three, on the left hand path walking up from the cafe. I have a photo if anyone is interested.


Otherwise saw nothing of special interest today - no sig of a dipper but there was a kingfisher dazzling over the water by the hide, too fast and unpredictable to photograph.

-- Edited by meayrs on Monday 23rd of June 2014 07:22:30 PM

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A quick visit to Etherow before going on to Ludworth where the main highlight was 3 juvenile Tawny Owl's happily flying around keg wood area.

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Mandarin female with 4 young
Mute Swan pair. One unringed, one Blue 4ADJ

Cheers John

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This link should take any interested parties to the planning application:

http://planning.stockport.gov.uk/PlanningData/AcolNetCGI.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=120710

The work would take place in the area between the wooden bridge over the overflow, and the bridge at the wierhead.
It doesn't look too bad to me from the Dippers point of view, but I'll let you make your own mind up about that.

-- Edited by Tony Darby on Saturday 24th of May 2014 05:52:34 PM

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John,

I wasn't sure that you were talking about ECP's dippers when I replied, but now you've confirmed it I can say that the Park is not west of the roadbridge (IF they mean Andrew St. in Compstall). There is a weir down river at the back of Compstall Hall (as you may know). I'm guessing that is where they might be planning to do it, and I am not aware of dippers using that area to breed.

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Andy a quick look at the planning documents shows the area under consideration to be the grassy area with the bench's and shelter in-between the river and canal.

I can't figure out whether the work will affect the area where the dippers breed, obviously it will affect the vicinity but the actual location I'm not sure, I think it's also likely to affect the Grey Wagtails as that area is normally the place I've seen them feeding from.

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John Rayner wrote:

I guess I meant goodbye to Dippers in the vicinity the weir bridge where they have bred in the past. Inevitably there will be lots of disturbance during construction but when the dust settles perhaps they will love it. I hear that Dippers have bred near other such projects so perhaps I over-reacted.

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John,

I wasn't sure that you were talking about ECP's dippers when I replied, but now you've confirmed it I can say that the Park is not west of the roadbridge (IF they mean Andrew St. in Compstall). There is a weir down river at the back of Compstall Hall (as you may know). I'm guessing that is where they might be planning to do it, and I am not aware of dippers using that area to breed.

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I made a trip round Etherow yesterday and came across the sign, took a photo so I can write or email the necessary people.

Birds of note around the park included;

7 Chiffchaff Calling throughout the park
1 Goldcrest seen though a few more heard
4 Blackcap seen though with several more heard calling
2 Treecreeper
3 Nuthatch
1 Great Spotted Woodpecker
1 Buzzard over

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The question of Dippers and small hydro schemes has been raised before - in New Mills. I'm not familiar with the locality to be able to comment, but it would be useful if a local with knowledge of the Dipper nest site could write to the planning authority. I would imagine that some form of mitigation could be included in the planning approval (if it goes ahead). If a nest box was provided, Nev Powell would be prepared to help I'm sure.

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I guess I meant goodbye to Dippers in the vicinity the weir bridge where they have bred in the past. Inevitably there will be lots of disturbance during construction but when the dust settles perhaps they will love it. I hear that Dippers have bred near other such projects so perhaps I over-reacted.

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John,

I did raise the issue of the music festival on this website a while ago. Not sure if anyone was interested. I contacted the Council but found I was way out of my depth with the sort of stuff they quoted and what I would have to do to lodge a 'proper' complaint. Not sure why the installation of the hydro plant would mean goodbye to the dippers (unless you know something I don't). In any case it would just be an eyesore on quite a wild stretch of river, but hey, what do Stockport Council care? Delusions of grandure figure very highly in their plans for World domination (well North-West England anyway).

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As well as the large sign on the path to the hide advertising "Blackthorn Music Festival - Last week in July" [see http://www.blackthornmusicfestival.co.uk] there was a council notice by the bridge at the weir.

This one announced application for planning permission for an "Archimedes Screw hydro-elecrtic plant at Weirhead, Compstall. West of the road bridge over River Etherow". Presumably similar to the one at Otterspool. Goodbye Dippers?

For anyone interested in objecting (almost pointless I would have thought) the Planning Application Number is DC055241. Notice dated 5th May and there is then a 21 day period to lodge objections.

Cheers, John

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Around Sunny Corner. Bird flew out above Weir Pond over towards Ernocroft Woods.
Willow Warbler were mainly on 'higher' path from car park to weir.

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This am 9-11:

Also whilst in woods a bird flew over that was very egret shaped, light coloured and had the flight jizz of an egret. Saw for 1 second then hidden by trees. Might be worth looking for locally?





Chris,

Which 'woods'? There are a lot of trees out there! wink

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This am 9-11: 3 willow warbler 6 chiffchaff 12 blackcap 2 swallow Egyptian goose 7 mandarin 4 nuthatch treecreeper Common buzzard Stock dove goldcrest Great crested grebe Also whilst in woods a bird flew over that was very egret shaped, light coloured and had the flight jizz of an egret. Saw for 1 second then hidden by trees. Might be worth looking for locally?

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Phil it is a large area, much larger than I had originally guessed at, just hope it's managed correctly and not allowed to dry out.

On to today's sightings though;

10 Chiffchaff seen or heard
5 Blackcap all male with a possible 6th female but I didn't get a good enough look
1m and 1f Great Spotted Woodpecker
2 Treecreeper
3 Nuthatch

Interestingly no Willow Warblers heard anywhere

Plenty of blue great and coal tit's about though.

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Noticed the ground clearing a couple of weeks ago when i was last there, hadn't realised how big that area was, with it previously being overgrown, & as you say Mark, theres plenty of scope to develop a nice little marsh area

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Early morning walk around the park produced a good amount of the common woodland birds.

7:30 - 10:15ish Keg woodland and then a quick walk round Ernocroft.


12 Chiffchaff seen or heard
3 Willow Warbler
7 Blackcap all male
5 Treecreeper
4 Great Spotted Woodpecker (3m + 1f)
1 Dipper on the river near Keg pool.
1 Swallow
2 Buzzard
2 Sparrowhawk


Interesting development around the marshy area near the king fisher statue on keg pool, looks like they're clearing the willow out to help native plants to come through as well as hopefully creating a suitable marsh habitat for birds. Handled well it could be a nice area.

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Mark


-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Monday 14th of April 2014 02:45:14 PM

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Ian Boote wrote:

On the path back from the Hide to the gate



Hi Ian,

Was this bird singing or calling?

Cheers, John

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On the path back from the Hide to the gate

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Ian Boote wrote:

Blackcaps, Chiffchaffs, Willow Warbler, from the hide Nuthatches, Treecreeper, obliging kingfisher, Great Spotted Woodpecker, several Mandarin, Tufted Ducks Coal Tit, further on 2 Buzzard, top of wood more of the species listed Goldcrest Keg Willow Tit and Egyptian thing, and on lodge 6 Swallow.





Willow Tit? Are you quite sure you've got that right Ian? Haven't seen one in the area for over a decade.

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Blackcaps, Chiffchaffs, Willow Warbler, from the hide Nuthatches, Treecreeper, obliging kingfisher, Great Spotted Woodpecker, several Mandarin, Tufted Ducks Coal Tit, further on 2 Buzzard, top of wood more of the species listed Goldcrest Keg Willow Tit and Egyptian thing, and on lodge 6 Swallow.

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Highlights of a lunchtime walk around the reserve

First Chiffchaff of the year - 3 seen in total
Appear to be a healthy number of Tufted ducks pairing up, having seemingly dropped in numbers over the last few years.
Pair of very vocal Buzzards over Ernocroft Wood
Plenty of Nuthatches about

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Fantastic walk 4-6pm in great weather.

Lots of dogs and children meant there weren't many birds around the weir when I first arrived, so decided to pop into the hide.

Hide:
6 Mandarin (2m, 4f)
4 Tufted Duck (2m, 2f)
1 Teal (m)
2 Grey Heron
10 Cormorant gathering in one of the trees
Lots of small birds feeding on or around the feeders-
Blue, Great, Coal and Long-Tailed Tits
Chaffinch
Reed Bunting (1m)
Goldcrest
Nuthatch

Keg Pool and Keg Wood:

1 Egyptian Goose - honking loudly the entire time
2 Grey Heron
9 Coot
Lots of Tufted Duck
1 Great Spotted Woodpecker inspecting nest holes
1 Tawny Owl - flew west out of the wood, being mobbed by 2-3 small birds

I then returned to the weir at about 5.40 and was rewarded with great views of 2 Dippers and 2 Grey Wagtails.
The Dippers performed a courtship dance to one another that involved displaying their white throats and then dancing from side to side with their wings fanned. A lovely sight to end a productive couple of hours!

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Last chance you people out there. I have received a reply to the concerns which I voiced to Stockport MBC that make for, shall we say, interesting reading. It looks as if we are looking at events for over 200 people which could last in excess of 24 hours!! All sorts of factors will be put in place to stop people going off site with alcohol, and to keep events drug free (because everyone is just so law abiding these days). Oh, and the music (which appears to be confined to indoors) will be restricted to 11:00 to 00:00 only (some concession that!). I hope others will at least raise some issues with the authorities. You only have until 11th March. Otherwise one feels that your day in the park is about to become that bit more crowded (and noisy).

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I don't know if the regular ECP users have seen the notice recently put up near the start of the path to Whitebottom Farm. If you haven't, take a look AND OBJECT unless, as it appears, you would like to be birding to the accompanyment of 'live' music events and such (yes, really).

Go to the following web address for more info and act as you think fit. http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/business/licensing11/fooddrinkentertainment/licensingat2003appsrep/currentlicenceapplications

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10.00 - 12.30 with Tony Darby
A stunning total of 40 Mandarins present: 28 at the weir and 12 in the channel from the main lake
Pair Dippers very active at the weir
Tawny Owl heard from Ernocroft Wood
Egyptian Goose on Keg Pool honking furiously for a mate
Mute Swans ZP4 and 4ADL at the weir and juvenile 4ADJ on the main lake at the model boat end
Buzzard over mobbed by a Carrion Crow

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