Afternoon til dusk. Main lake... 18 mute Swan 4 cormorant 24 gadwall 27 tufted duck 2 little grebe Teal pool... 6 snipe 10 teal Broad ees dole... 8 grey heron 8 shoveler 8 goosander 3 little grebe 2 lesser redpoll A walk along river produced a woodcock flying over from sale side then over Stretford ees.
Late post for Wednesday 12:30 - 14:00, bumped into another birder who'd come to check out the site
Main lake: 5 tufted ducks (3m & 2f) ~20 gadwall 1 little grebe 7 cormorants plenty of gulls
Broad ees dole: 1 snipe, on left island 1 little grebe 6 shoveler 9 teal 1 grey wagtail 1 buzzard, back of dole but flew toward hide before heading left towards the canal 6 grey herons, total count
phillipskelly wrote: Water rail - 1 (possibly 2) seen in left hand corner of the Teal pool just after Shannon Llewellyn left.
Excellent, glad they showed themselves.
The only things to add to Phillip's sightings yesterday was a small flock of 5-10 siskin alighting from tree as I approached it, flying off calling, and later a lone redpoll over.
Gulls at the Broad Ees Dole end of the main lake all disturbed by water-sports before I could look them over, but one large one seen briefly in flight looked a possible for yellow-legged gull, though I couldn't relocate for confirmation.
Visitor Centre feeders : Willow tit - 2 together. Coal tit - 1 . Nuthatch - 1. Plus Great and Blue tits.
Inflow channel : Grey Heron - 1.
Main Lake : Gadwall - 29. Tufted Duck - 7. Yellow - legged gull - 1. Black headed gill - c100. Common gull - 7. Lesser black back gull - 8.
Broad Ees Dole : Water rail - 1 (possibly 2) seen in left hand corner of the Teal pool just after Shannon Llewellyn left. Snipe - 1. Shoveler duck - 7 . Grey Heron - 9. Goosander - 1m. Little grebe - 1. Common Buzzard - 2 over several times.
Yellow-legged Gull adult bathing in the center of the main lake 12.00 to 12.25 at least Water Rail 1 feeding in the open at the small pool 13.20 to 13.40 at least Gadwall 46 Teal 37 Shoveler 5 Tufted 3 Little Grebe 1 Cormorant 6 Kingfisher 1 Buzzard 1
main lake, 37 gadwall 4 tufted duck 1 little grebe 7 mute swan 10 cormorant
broad ees dole, 1 water rail, showing very well in front of the lakeside hide. 19 teal 2 shoveler 18 goosander 1 little grebe 3 grey heron 1 kingfisher 1 grey wagtail 2 buzzard 1 great spotted woodpecker
teal pool, 2 water rail, 1 on the far side again & 1 on the left hand side. 12 teal 1 grey wagtail
nice to have a chat with paul heaton.
joel, yes they are different. the old cow field & dry weir is Stretford ees & the old cow field/ ivy green / hardy farm is chorlton ees.
When did the second pool get named teal pool? Late post for Wednesday - 2 Kingfishers chasing each other around
Since Paul Heaton named it last Wednesday. It's all part of Broad Ees Dole.
Paul the cow field is Stretford Ees, which rightly has it's own thread. Pete Berry's dog flushed Corncrake and Nightjar from there in the early 80's. Also pre 1978 it was in Lancashire, whereas Sale WP was in Cheshire.
Joel, it's all relative. There never were Gadwall or Buzzard around in the 'old days'.
True, I still feel as if over all the numbers and range of species in this area of the mersey valley has decreased.
Is stretford ees the field next to the dry weir/are the cow field (streford ees) and the old cow field (the one between ivy green and hardy farm) different?
When did the second pool get named teal pool? Late post for Wednesday - 2 Kingfishers chasing each other around
Since Paul Heaton named it last Wednesday. It's all part of Broad Ees Dole.
Paul the cow field is Stretford Ees, which rightly has it's own thread. Pete Berry's dog flushed Corncrake and Nightjar from there in the early 80's. Also pre 1978 it was in Lancashire, whereas Sale WP was in Cheshire.
Joel, it's all relative. There never were Gadwall or Buzzard around in the 'old days'.
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main lake, I managed at least 41 gadwall around the islands 3 little grebe 1 grey heron 6 mute swan 8 cormorants black headed, lesser black backed, common & herring gulls, no signs of the yellow legged gull.
teal pool, 8 teal 1 water rail, showing well out in the open but on the far side of the pool, watched for 20 minutes then again for another 15 minutes after visiting the lakeside hide.
Its a shame to how good the Mersey valley used to be compared to nowadays.
Spent about and hour here today from 11:30 - 12:30
Main lake: 33 Gadwall (kept going out of sight behind the islands but this was the most I counted together as a group) 3 Cormorants (1 over, the rest on the lake) 2 Tufted ducks 5 Mute swans + one dead by the square islands 2 Buzzards over usual numbers of Gulls, Coots, Mallards, etc.
Broad Ees Dole: 1 Grey heron 17 Teal 11 Shoveler 4 Moorhen 1 Little grebe
Hi All, I moved to the Stretford area in 1963 and the Mersey valley became my patch until the early 80s, I used to wander the area that is now Sale water park/Broad ees dole, the lake was created in the early 70s by removal of gravel to build the embankment for the extension of the M63, and the Dole was managed in 1980 to create the reserve.
I have dug out some old notes and found records for Snipe and Water Rail between 1964 and 1974 with some counts reaching 56 for Snipe and 6 for Water Rail, I have no definitive record of the latter breeding but always assumed they did.
Water Rail breed at the Meadow Pond just over the river on Chorlton Ees. An adult and a very young chick was seen on 17th August 2016 (as posted on the Forum and elsewhere)
A couple of old personal Common Snipe counts from Broad Ees dole
86 on 11th November 1980 90 on 27th December 1987
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35 odd years ago the Mersey Valley was my local patch which I birded nearly every day for a number of years.Water Rails were annual on The Dole at SWP,I used to tempt them out from an area just left of the old hide by putting maggots down in cold weather,this inevitably resulted in seeing a Water Rail within 10 mins of putting the maggots down.We also used to do an annual flush of the marshy area behind the scrape (or Jheel as Paul Jepson named it)which turned up in excess of a100 Common Snipe and good numbers of Jack Snipe most years,if you stood near the hide at dusk you could here the Snipe flying out of the marsh to feed elsewhere.Most of the marshy area seems to be overgrown with trees now,no doubt due to lack of maintenance with the virtual disbanding of the warden service.
Team SWP excellent stuff I have been speaking to the Godfather of SWP Pete Hines and he has given me a golden piece of information from the Halcyon days when rangers were in charge of the place .
The pool we now see has just always been part of Broad res Dole and is based on the Indian jheel an idea Paul Jepson got from Bharatpur , cool stuff this , Now bearing in mind if you look at the Map of SWP it doesn't appear on there, the undergrowth has formed a new area , So I feel Teal pool rhythms with jheel , and the Teal that are there look stunning on that pool . so I propose we use Teal pool from now on . ( The Cow field over the river has not has cows in for quite some time ,and we still use cow field for that )
As for the Water Rail along with Buzzard and Raven these are now becoming regular sightings here , rumours of them breeding close by have reached me.
Keep Birding
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Wednesday 28th of November 2018 08:55:38 AM
Thanks Steven and Paul. Not an easy bird to see in Mersey valley but (correct me if I'm wrong) they seem to have become more established over the past couple of years and hopefully due to the low water levels at that pool we might hope to see them more regularly. I've never heard them on the Sale side of the Mersey but heard one once at the reed bed in the meadow field. Regarding the name of the pool, unless there is a name for it used by some of the long time patchers then Reed bed Pool might be the most fitting. However I could see some people confusing this with the reed bed in the meadow field. Teal pool could work but might lose its meaning a bit during the summer months
Well done Shannon & joel on the water rail sighting. As tim Wilcox mentions in an earlier post I myself managed a sighting of a water rail in the same location on the reed bed pool of broad ees dole on 4th November 2014, not seen one since but have heard them.
Joel thats great stuff , I think we might end up with the first team patch
I think that pool should be called Teal pool , pretty never fails to get them there seems a good name what do the rest of Sale Water Park team think
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Late post for Monday morning 10:45 - 11:20. Stopped by to do a tiny bit of landscape photography but couldn't resist checking the Broad Ees Dole. With the amount I saw I'm going to have to start patching Sale WP again!
Main lake, from the concrete structure at the most north point: 2 Cormorants ~100 Black-headed gulls 7 Common gulls 3 Lesser black backed gulls 2 Moorhens 2 Coots 2 Mallards
Broad Ees Dole: 8 Shovelers (5 males & 3 females) 20-30 Teal (ran out of time to count them) 1 male Gadwall some mallards, moorhens and a very large Sparrowhawk being harassed by magpies at the back of the pool.
Unnamed pond next to Broad Ees Dole (I was thinking to myself on the way home that it needed a name, it appears that I'm not alone in that thought!): 4 Teal (2 male & 2 female) 1 Grey heron But by far the best bird and a patch lifer for me was a Water rail!!! After reading Shannon's post earlier this week I only hoped of seeing one. Feeding right out in the open on the mud, on the left hand side of the pool. Unfortunately someone walking by on their phone managed to scare it and it quickly scuttled back into the reeds and didn't return again in the 5 mins I waited for it.
- This afternoon, ringed Black-headed Gull ETKE was sat on the low bar surrounding the main car park. Had it here 2 months ago. Ill send off the sighting and see if its been anywhere else in between.
-- Edited by Rob Creek on Tuesday 20th of November 2018 07:08:09 PM
...had a reply from Tim Audenaert this evening and theres been no other sightings of this bird reported to him since I last saw it here in September so presumably not left the UK (or GM even) during that time. Only guessing though.
Shannon , excellent round up as always , very impressed with your sighting and a tad jealous ...
Water rail , thought I heard a squeak the other week, but never saw one , I have in my mind that nice pool to the left of Broad Ees Dole , it seem to have lovely stretch of mud and reed perfect for Water Rail,
I will keep looking
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Monday 19th of November 2018 07:00:13 AM
Hi Paul,
Sorry for the late reply, been offline all week. It was indeed on that pool (and the second time I've seen one there), feeding along the waterline at the back.
The adult Yellow Legged Gull was on the main lake towards the western end this morning and on Saturday there was a 1st winter Yellow Legged Gull on the bouys just below Deckers car park,but no sign today.Only other thing of interest was a Kingfisher on the Mersey opp Jacksons Boat
- This afternoon, ringed Black-headed Gull ETKE was sat on the low bar surrounding the main car park. Had it here 2 months ago. Ill send off the sighting and see if its been anywhere else in between.
-- Edited by Rob Creek on Tuesday 20th of November 2018 07:08:09 PM
Shannon , excellent round up as always , very impressed with your sighting and a tad jealous ...
Water rail , thought I heard a squeak the other week, but never saw one , I have in my mind that nice pool to the left of Broad Ees Dole , it seem to have lovely stretch of mud and reed perfect for Water Rail,
I will keep looking
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Monday 19th of November 2018 07:00:13 AM
Shannon , excellent round up as always , very impressed with your sighting and a tad jealous ...
Water rail , thought I heard a squeak the other week, but never saw one , I have in my mind that nice pool to the left of Broad Ees Dole , it seem to have lovely stretch of mud and reed perfect for Water Rail,
I will keep looking
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Monday 19th of November 2018 07:00:13 AM
A few hours round here today, from just gone 10 to nearly three. Yellow-legged gull had been seen before I arrived, but had flown by then; the only large gulls on lake that I saw were all lesser black-backed. Nevertheless, an extremely productive and enjoyable few hours, with some excellent other species around:
1 goldcrest 3 willow tit (one on feeder by cafe, pair around outlet channel) 1 treecreeper 2 nuthatch (one seen, one heard) 2 lesser redpoll 1 siskin 6+ goldfinch 2 linnet (a Mersey Valley patch first for me) 1 redwing 2 jay 1 kingfisher (male, two sightings, presumed same bird) 3 moorhen 1 coot 29 gadwall 2 tufted duck 7 or 8 mute swan 3 little grebe 2 grey heron 240+ black-headed gull 7 common gull 5 lesser black-backed gull 1 kestrel 1 sparrowhawk 1 buzzard heard fairly distantly
Broad Ees Dole:
1 water rail 5 moorhen 1 coot 31 teal 4 shoveler 2 little grebe 3 snipe 2 grey heron
A number of large gulls present today, I suspect the Yellow legged Gull ,was there but the waterskiing man decided to have a run out, just as I was about the view the gulls putting them all up .
Broad ees dole 7 Shoveler ,and 2 male Goosander , and 16 Teal ,
Keep Birding
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Wednesday 14th of November 2018 04:22:07 PM
- adult Yellow-legged Gull On main lake this afternoon viewed from near Deckers and then a better view near one of the fishing platforms just passed the sailing club. There was a loud bang from the other side of the lake and a lot of the Gulls were put up including this one and I lost it flying towards the pylon. Cheers for confirmation Ian.
(ps. knock 1 hour off camera time, I do it every time the clocks go back or forward)
Today 01.11.18 (short visit). Main lake :- Lesser Black-back gull - 6. Common gull - 6. Herring gull - 1. But No Yellow legged gull. Broad Ees Dole Snipe - 3. Teal - 14. Water on the Dole is at it's Lowest level for a long time but views from the hide are becoming narrower due to encroaching bushes and trees.
-- Edited by phillipskelly on Thursday 1st of November 2018 03:23:25 PM
Main lake ...... Gadwall - 9. Mute swan - 17 ( 8 juveniles including 4DCF, 4DCD,and 4DCC.).
Old Carpark ...... Reed bunting - 1.
Broad Ees Dole ....... Wigeon - 10. Gadwall - 6. Shoveler - 4. Little grebe - 4 Inc. 1 juv. Buzzard - 1 . Snipe - 4. Teal - 9. Kingfisher - 1. (Ps. hope the snipe photo is right way up this time.phone scoped)
and lots of Long-tail tit about everywhere.
-- Edited by phillipskelly on Thursday 18th of October 2018 04:34:48 PM