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Post Info TOPIC: Rochdale Town Hall Peregrines


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RE: Rochdale Town Hall Peregrines


Watch started at 17:45. Female sat on the edge of the tray preening before flying off. Flew right over my position low down (great views) before making a serious attempt at a passing Mallard (near miss). Both adults flew back to the Town Hall and sat for some time watching the nest. In total female left chick/s at the nest for 40 minutes. Both birds took off again and returned with prey. Female feeding young. Occasional glimpse of a chick whilst feeding. Female flew off with remainder of prey and was not back when watch ended 19:15.

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No doubt that there are chicks there.

Mum & Dad both flew off for a while, next time I looked (less than 20 mins later), Mum was plucking and eating a kill (white pigeon) on perch above whilst Dad looked on.

They both flew off (Dad with kill) for a couple of minutes (possibly to the roof of the black tower council buildings - can't see cause it's above my head). Then mum came back to nest with some of kill and has been tearing bits off it and feeding to chick(s) since then.

The chicks are still too small to be seen over the edge but I did see a quick flash of non-Mum movement over the edge of the nest tray so there's at least one smile.gif

-- Edited by Michael Hood on Wednesday 18th of May 2011 04:29:31 PM

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Called up this morning at 09:15. Female already had prey item on arrival and her behaviour was consistent with feeding young. Hard to be conclusive as she was stood with her back facing our position yet her head was down the whole time. After 5 minutes or so she settled back down and remained that way until watch ended approx 10:15.

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Previously from my viewpoint it's been almost impossible to see the sitting bird.

This morning, the sitting bird was clearly sitting up, the other bird came in with a kill, plucked it a bit on a perch above the nest, then flew down to the nest with it. Both birds on the nest for a bit, then one (the male I think) flew back up to one of the perches (where it is now) and the female has settled back down - but still more visible than previously - now sitting up more again.

Anyway, from this change of behaviour, I'm fairly sure they're on chicks now.

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Been watching them on and off over the past few weeks. April 23rd there were 4 peregrines flying low around the tower/car park area chasing and calling. Are these last years young joining the breeding pair or are there 2 pairs in the area?

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Went to look at the birds on Friday afternoon, male and female sharing either incubation duties or keeping chicks warm. Either way they are sitting on something in the nest tray, hopefully wont be long before we get some confirmation of chicks being fed- I will try to visit a couple of times/ week to see what is going on.

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Popped along on the way back from Healey Dell and was just in time to see one of the birds (presumably the male) flying around the town centre enjoying the thermals.

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Judith - is it possible to find out if there are any eggs?

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Answered my own questions (by observation) - unfortunately when the female settles right down in the nest tray (she just got in @1:25 and has been there for 20 mins) I can't see her, and I've now seen both in the same view so can see the size differential. The male is happily sitting on one of his favouite perches - the gargoyle (actually it's a water spout/drain) above and to the right.

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At about 12 today one is sitting near the nest tray (presumably the female) and the other was on one of the gargoyles (presumably the male), a few minutes later only the one near the tray was visible and just now (12:40) I couldn't see either.

Some questions - apart from size (difficult to tell unless you can see them both together or until you get enough familiarity) is there any other way to tell the male & female apart; i.e. any distinguishing features (I know that they've nominally got the same plumage)?

Also, has the nest tray got a surround or is the "flat" bit at the top. I'm looking from just slightly below but if there is no surround then I should be able to see if a bird is on the nest (presuming that they'll use the tray) in which case I haven't seen that yet.



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Seeing both regularly from College Bank but I viewed from the rear of the church yesterday (29th) 11.40am and also saw the female on the edge of the tray.

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Seeing the M/cr birds are sitting , I went to check on the Rochdale pair today. The female was stood on the edge of the nest tray, with the male above on a gargoyle. Hopefully she may have laid some eggs, will try to get back at weekend to see if she has started to sit.

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Yesterday I watched as the male disappeared out of sight into a cloud. Then he dived back to the Town Hall at incredible speed and they mated. She must have been impressed! Today at about 5.15 she perched on the tray for a few minutes.

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Watched the birds for 2 1/2 hrs from 1500hrs today. 2 mating efforts observed, fingers crossed for this year.

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Interested in Ivan's post. I have a scope permanently on the tower from College Bank flats and usually see at least one bird each day. This is on the rear of the tower, not the nest site. This has been true all over winter. Female on show as I write. Too far away, though, to see any rings. Has anyone else seen more than the regular pair?

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Single bird (from size prob. female) on the NE parapet of the clock tower 12 noon.

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Watched both birds on town hall today and took some flight pics. The male is a different bird this year as it is unringed on both legs, unless the regular male was away and this was an interloper trying his luck.

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Both birds perched quite close together this afternoon. After one flew around a bit there was an attempted at mating, then they both flew off in the same direction.

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10.45 pair on view from College Bank.

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Peregrine perched on town hall tower this morning about 9.30 still there half hour later.

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Sorry, male on top shelf!disbelief.gif

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10.15 Sunday 2 Jan looks like mail on top shelf, viewed from College Bank.

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27th December one bird visible on shelf before top spire from College Bank flats. Spotted at day break, still there at 9.55.

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14th November.

1 was just about visible through the swirling mist and was seen to be perched on the edge of the nest tray at 8.45 this morning.

Cheers,

Bill.

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I can hear a lot of comotion from the Peregrines today outside my office window at the Black Box!

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Ive just walked across town this morning. Peregrines still resident in the town centre, as one of the birds was screaching and doing laps of the black box!

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I've just been driving home along Spotland Road, wondering whether to pop to the Town Hall for a quick look. At that moment a peregrine flew really low over the car. That's my fix for the day!

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I live in the College Bank flats and have a scope trained on the clock tower on the reverse side from where the nest is. The shelf below the tower piece is where they tend to store the pigeons prior to consumption. Yesterday, there were two adults and a chick on the shelf. Diet is mainly feral pigeons, but I have seen white doves caught as well.

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An extended stay on Saturday and I did not see the adult male bird.

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They certainly are! Yesterday the juveniles were sharing a pigeon on the Town Hall, then one of them flew off with it to a chimney on South Street (near John Peers) and ate it by itself giving lots of people great views.

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The juveniles fledged yesterday (many thanks to Roy from RSPB volunteers). I imagine these birds will provide some cracking views.

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Chick again stood proud on edge of tray again today. Female next to tray preening herself.

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Went to St Chads again today at 12.10. Chick stood proud on the edge of the tray. 12.15 female returned and perched herself in the top of the window above the tray in the clock tower. She kept looking down to check on her chick. Great viewing!

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Yes

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presumably the female adult bird is larger than the male?

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Do you mean the chicks - if so it's the leg thickness.
Adults - size.

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a daft question but how can you tell the difference between the male and female Peregrine?

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Went to St Chads at 12.10 today. Fabulous view of the female on the tray with a chick. Not so much of a chick any more - it's nearly as big as she is!

Watch out Pigeons of Rochdale - theres a Peregrine somewhere near you!wink.gif

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Good view of female feeding chick this morning. When I uploaded photos, I was amused to see a dead pigeon laid in front of box waiting to be eaten, which I hadn't spotted!

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I was watching the site from about 3.00 to 8.00pm and got some cracking views but sadly didn't see the chicks whilst they were being fed. I watched and photograped a mid air pass between male and female of a small bird which I have yet to identify from the pictures.

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1045-12.15

Watching the male sat on the nest from St Chad's brief views of one chick popping his head over the box

No sign of the female as of yet, although one fellow birder suggested she was at ASDA doing her shopping....biggrin.gif


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I'm glad I joined the forum, I'm learning all the time!

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Yes, I think so. In Manchester (I am a volunteer on the Manchester peregrines) in past years they had a 'larder' on the Town Hall. Now they have moved nest site to the CIS building praps they may not use the Town Hall. Yesterday a bird was plucking prey on the other side of the tower from the nest and seemed to put it in what looked like a big funnel sort of thing. We hoped they weren't blocking up a vent!

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Is this something they would normally do? I just though they killed fresh for every meal

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I saw one land on St Chad's yesterday. Wonder if they are keeping food there?

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Just been to St Chads this morning. I looked at the Town Hall clock tower but no signs. All of a sudden there was an almighty screach from behind me on the low part of the roof at St Chads. Next minute the female flew 6ft off the ground through the trees and round the back of the Town Hall clock tower. Looks like she may have been going for a swim as she went off in the direction of the baths on Entwistle road. Superb sighting - the nearest I've ever been to a Peregrine!no.gif

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I am SO delighted! Hope they do well.

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I'm very pleased to be able to say that an inspection under a Sch 1 licence this morning revealed 2 newly hatched chicks on the nest tray.

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Its a shame but I dont think they will have laid eggs. If they had, the female would be sat on the nest a lot more I think

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Went up to St Chads at 11.45. Female was on the ledge on the left side of clock tower sheltering from the downpoor. Still no sign of the male.

-- Edited by Mike B on Monday 10th of May 2010 12:28:18 PM

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