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RE: Rochdale Town Hall Peregrines


Both juvs doing well tonight. Managed 6 shots in the sun and then the heavens opened one of the juvs was preening in the heavy rain and freshening his feathers. Gald he enjoyed the deluge- I didn't.

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Just zoomed in on the photo I took earlier and spotted the nest. Yeah!

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Peregrine on the town hall at 7.45am

-- Edited by Hollingworth Lake Visitor Centre on Wednesday 30th of May 2012 07:55:51 AM

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went up yesterday for an hour, armed with cam, bins etc... saw the parents, one on the council buildings a couple of times and around the tower. Best bit tho, we saw 2 little white heads popping up frequently :) Made my day

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Sorry, I remembered incorrectly (you do at my age )

Females have thicker legs not bigger feet!

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Females have bigger feet - or so I've been told

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How do you sex Peregrine chicks - is the male/female size difference already obvious or does it require an anatomical check

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Cool, gonna head over on sunday to see if we can spot white heads in the nest box.. Fab news, Thank you Adrian

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Be interesting to know how that is actually done.


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Two chicks ringed today ...one male and one female.

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Ivan Ellison wrote:

. He said he would take action and kill the birds. I told him that he would be committing a serious offence and he may get 6 months in prison if he did in fact kill a protected sch 1 bird.
I then produced my warrant card and identified myself as a police officer explaining that I used to be a wildlife liaison officer.

-- Edited by Ivan Ellison on Tuesday 6th of March 2012 08:57:21 PM





Is threatening to kill the birds not grounds for arresting him ?
at least a caution might keep him quiet for a while.

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I visited yesterday as I have done most sundays for a few weeks, Dad was on the tower overlooking the nest, mums head was clearly visible in the nest box. About 4pm dad went off for food and fetched it back to mum who appeared to be feeding chicks.

I love these birds and would love if somebody could confirm there are chicks and if so how many

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Any news on chicks?

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Both birds present today. I saw 1 mating effort take place. A request for all Rochdale birders to be vigilant( and other GM birders). Whilst taking sdome pics of the birds a middle aged male came up to me. His opening gambit was "these things ate one of my racers yesterday." I tried to explain that they not only eat racers but a whole host of other birds. He said he would take action and kill the birds. I told him that he would be committing a serious offence and he may get 6 months in prison if he did in fact kill a protected sch 1 bird. His wife was with him and he tried to enter into a pissing competion with me. He puffed up his chest- like one of his pigeons and said he would be watching them carefully.As though it may mean something to someone from Rochdale he then said " I'm Jacko". I asked for his first name but he didn't answer. He repeated his threat to harm the birds. I then produced my warrant card and identified myself as a police officer explaining that I used to be a wildlife liaison officer. I made sure he understood the serious nature of what he was threatening and his pissing comp can to an abrupt dribble. He wandered off muttering that if there was a war on they would be killed anyway!. I didn't have the heart to tell him we now use more secure ways of sending messages to our fighting troops half way around the world. Anyway, keep your eyes and ears open and any more info on" Jacko" can be passed to me just in case any harm befalls the birds.
A magpie just escaped by the skin of his beak. He had the audacity to fly onto the top of the tower only to be attacked x the female. Good flying skills and keeping close to the building saved him

-- Edited by Ivan Ellison on Tuesday 6th of March 2012 08:57:21 PM

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Both birds looking fit and well on Thursday a/noon. Would say they are the same birds as last year. Both unringed and head patterns seem the same from the pics I took. Very hopeful for another sucess this year.

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Sightings are intermittent now from College Bank but one was feeding on a ledge this morning. Couldn't be sure of sex because no size comparison and viewing sideways on, but may have been male. Last sighting two weeks ago was definitely female.

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Was in our Rochdale office today, there's at least one bird around as it flew between the town hall and the "black box" a couple of times. Presumably both birds are there but I didn't get a chance to see that.

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One day last week, both sitting together on top shelf right (from College Bank) facing me. Looked later and one had turned its back. Later again both had turned their backs. Must have been something I said!!

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both adults showing well on the town hall, female above the clock between 4.15-4.45pm then flew off, circled then back on ledge below clock & 5 mins later male flew in on ledge above female

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spent an hour here 4.45- 5.45pm
just 3 peregrines about all juvenilles, 2 on the town hall & 1 on the bus station building. no signs off the others.

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From my side (College Bank) they are much more frequent as they tend to use the back shelf of the clock tower to pluck and dissect the kills. There is one in sight now.

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They are spending less time on the town hall now, but I still see them in the evening coming in to feed and roost. I would say very early in the morn or after 6pm.

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Went this afternoon after going to Dovestone. I did get brief views of them over drake st, but they didn't land on the town hall. Does anyone know when'd be the best time to see them on or around the town hall?

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went to see these peregrines for the first time today,been told you get really good views and now i know what i have been missing out on excellent views and some good pics too. both adults came in with kills (never seen that before) female with 2 juveniles and male with 1 juvenile whilst they were feeding for themselves, not sure where the fourth was at the time sure it was there somewhere. really good views off them flying overhead,awesome be back soon. thank you to roy, jill & ella.

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4 birds flying and calling tonight causing a bit of a raucous with the local pigeons, chased a few around but did not seem to be trying too hard, they seem to fly for fun, also chasing eachother round a bit tonight,

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Sorry ignore original typos caused by fat fingers on small keypad on the phone, cant edit from phone and fat fingers and predictive text keep catching me out

-- Edited by Dennis atherton on Thursday 23rd of June 2011 09:36:49 PM

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4 bird's happily perch up at present Thursday night after 3 having a fly about and 1 sat in the evening sun happy for the last few hours.

-- Edited by Dennis atherton on Thursday 23rd of June 2011 09:35:26 PM

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The bird in question is a juvenile and fortunately was only concussed. The bird was re released on the town hall roof 10am today. So far so good. Many thanks to Judith for her great work.

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It must have been a chick. Two adult birds are together as I write (9.00am) dissecting a kill.

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There was a peregrine found by the public in Rochdale town centre at about 9pm last night. The bird may have had a broken neck but was taken to Pet Medics. I've spoken to them who inform me that the bird was taken by a Barbara Royle who treats birds of prey. Pet medics could not tell me if it was a young bird or whether it was ringed. I'll try and find out more.!!

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Between 11 and about 5. I'm a volunteer and am on holiday the next 2 Fridays - but there will be friendly staff there anyway. The adults perched quite a bit on a shelf of the grey middle bit of the black box yesterday, and were there today as I came home from a day with the Manchester peregrines Date with Nature!

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5.00 pm saturday
saw 1 parent plucking kill on one side of tower , then flying round carpark with plucked bird ,then taking it to the chicks.
also saw chicks flapping wings before adult arrived.
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That's good news. What time are you there and I'll come and introduce myself? My scope is sighted from College Bank on to the rear of the tower, behind the nest, on what we call 'the larder'. This is where the kills are brought and dissected, presumably prior to being fed to the young.

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For the next few Fridays, the RSPB are doing a Date with Nature on The Butts. There was quite a bit of interest yesterday, and of course with the telescope, great views.

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Just for info, the chicks were ringed last week, there are 4. They are a bit small at present but they have been put down as all males.

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Wrong, I've now seen three chicks. I'll try and see if there's a fourth when mum & dad come back to the nest - presumably with some grub.

I hope this lot don't try and get out of the box like the Manchester chicks, bit of a slide/drop and no easy way back in.

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Feeding time at the zoo smile.gif

The chicks must have grown significantly from 2 days ago as they're now clearly visible when being fed. There are definitely 2 chicks, I don't think there's a 3rd but it is possible with all the movement going on during breakfast (or is this brunch).

2nd time I've seen mum with a white pigeon - maybe they're easier to target than grey ones.

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Watch started at 17:45. Female sat on the edge of the tray preening before flying off. Flew right over my position low down (great views) before making a serious attempt at a passing Mallard (near miss). Both adults flew back to the Town Hall and sat for some time watching the nest. In total female left chick/s at the nest for 40 minutes. Both birds took off again and returned with prey. Female feeding young. Occasional glimpse of a chick whilst feeding. Female flew off with remainder of prey and was not back when watch ended 19:15.

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No doubt that there are chicks there.

Mum & Dad both flew off for a while, next time I looked (less than 20 mins later), Mum was plucking and eating a kill (white pigeon) on perch above whilst Dad looked on.

They both flew off (Dad with kill) for a couple of minutes (possibly to the roof of the black tower council buildings - can't see cause it's above my head). Then mum came back to nest with some of kill and has been tearing bits off it and feeding to chick(s) since then.

The chicks are still too small to be seen over the edge but I did see a quick flash of non-Mum movement over the edge of the nest tray so there's at least one smile.gif

-- Edited by Michael Hood on Wednesday 18th of May 2011 04:29:31 PM

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Called up this morning at 09:15. Female already had prey item on arrival and her behaviour was consistent with feeding young. Hard to be conclusive as she was stood with her back facing our position yet her head was down the whole time. After 5 minutes or so she settled back down and remained that way until watch ended approx 10:15.

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Previously from my viewpoint it's been almost impossible to see the sitting bird.

This morning, the sitting bird was clearly sitting up, the other bird came in with a kill, plucked it a bit on a perch above the nest, then flew down to the nest with it. Both birds on the nest for a bit, then one (the male I think) flew back up to one of the perches (where it is now) and the female has settled back down - but still more visible than previously - now sitting up more again.

Anyway, from this change of behaviour, I'm fairly sure they're on chicks now.

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Been watching them on and off over the past few weeks. April 23rd there were 4 peregrines flying low around the tower/car park area chasing and calling. Are these last years young joining the breeding pair or are there 2 pairs in the area?

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Went to look at the birds on Friday afternoon, male and female sharing either incubation duties or keeping chicks warm. Either way they are sitting on something in the nest tray, hopefully wont be long before we get some confirmation of chicks being fed- I will try to visit a couple of times/ week to see what is going on.

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Popped along on the way back from Healey Dell and was just in time to see one of the birds (presumably the male) flying around the town centre enjoying the thermals.

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Judith - is it possible to find out if there are any eggs?

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Answered my own questions (by observation) - unfortunately when the female settles right down in the nest tray (she just got in @1:25 and has been there for 20 mins) I can't see her, and I've now seen both in the same view so can see the size differential. The male is happily sitting on one of his favouite perches - the gargoyle (actually it's a water spout/drain) above and to the right.

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At about 12 today one is sitting near the nest tray (presumably the female) and the other was on one of the gargoyles (presumably the male), a few minutes later only the one near the tray was visible and just now (12:40) I couldn't see either.

Some questions - apart from size (difficult to tell unless you can see them both together or until you get enough familiarity) is there any other way to tell the male & female apart; i.e. any distinguishing features (I know that they've nominally got the same plumage)?

Also, has the nest tray got a surround or is the "flat" bit at the top. I'm looking from just slightly below but if there is no surround then I should be able to see if a bird is on the nest (presuming that they'll use the tray) in which case I haven't seen that yet.



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Seeing both regularly from College Bank but I viewed from the rear of the church yesterday (29th) 11.40am and also saw the female on the edge of the tray.

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Seeing the M/cr birds are sitting , I went to check on the Rochdale pair today. The female was stood on the edge of the nest tray, with the male above on a gargoyle. Hopefully she may have laid some eggs, will try to get back at weekend to see if she has started to sit.

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Yesterday I watched as the male disappeared out of sight into a cloud. Then he dived back to the Town Hall at incredible speed and they mated. She must have been impressed! Today at about 5.15 she perched on the tray for a few minutes.

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