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Post Info TOPIC: Cutacre Country Park; north of the railway


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RE: Cutacre, Middle Hulton


Simon..... Could you tell me how to get to the site and where is best for parking, is the main entrance just off the A6 near the old Norweb Depot?


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Cuckoo still present today(also seen yesterday), viewable on and off from the public footpath that runs around the south western perimeter of Cutacre, just as noteworthy were 7 Dunlin feeding on a small pool again on the western side.

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First survey of the summer today produced 6 singing Grasshopper Warblers, 17 singing Whitethroat, Sedge Warbler, 6 Grey Partridge, 2 Raven, 2 Buzzard, Little Owl and 70 Sand Martin.

The pools where I had a Little Egret last year have now been replaced by a 100 foot deep quarry!

Still 9 Golden Plover on Plodder Lane.

Unfortunately a dead Barn Owl was picked up on the A6 this week. cry.gif

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Thanks Ian,

I knew if anyone was aware of latest ID developments it would be you smile.gif

Steve

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Steve Suttill wrote:

Thanks guys

I know the site well as my late father-in-law lived nearby and I used to go to see the GP and Lapwing flocks there whenever I dropped him at the hospital.

I'm sure Ian McK will correct me, but I believe the strength of the white line from the head down to the flank is a better indication of race than the blackness of the "face" and breast. Will look carefully at Dennis' photos.

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I haven't studied these for a few years now, not since the nice annual early spring flocks disappeared from the Moss Lane area in Astley. It is thought that birds attaining such full and distinct breeding plumage (i.e. extensive black on the underparts) are from the northern race 'altifrons' and perhaps their annual early gathering also hint at a more northerly breeding destination anyway. Trouble is that there is much variation between the two races (northern and our UK breeding race) plus again between the sexes which clouds the situation somewhat and has lead to some believing there are no distinct races within Golden Plover. I'm not sure what if any, work has been done on this (and if so I've missed it!) but I did hear a couple of years ago murmurings that such plumage variation was dependant on breeding habitat selection and that apparent 'northerns' often attain a much drabber plumage depending on where they are nesting . Frankly I've lost track of it all

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Thanks guys

I know the site well as my late father-in-law lived nearby and I used to go to see the GP and Lapwing flocks there whenever I dropped him at the hospital.

I'm sure Ian McK will correct me, but I believe the strength of the white line from the head down to the flank is a better indication of race than the blackness of the "face" and breast. Will look carefully at Dennis' photos.

Cheers, Steve

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The 5 Golden Plover that I saw were viewed feeding among short green shoots.
They were all 'side on' and disappeared sometimes in the furrow.
However I noted that no black marking could be seen, just the whitish line on the head and neck. Although lower parts of the bird were hidden, the birds that I saw were not in striking plumage.
It may well be that Dennis Atherton, who first found these birds, has Photographs.
I had considered the anomaly with the site name thread. As Plodder Lane is over 2.5 miles long ,I thought Watergate Lane ,which passes through the fields to be a better guide. The OS map shows the name ''Edge Fold'' at the Lane's Junction.
By the way I learnt that an underground canal runs under these fields.


Hope this helps ,Steve.

-- Edited by keith mills on Tuesday 12th of April 2011 07:10:43 AM

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Yes there a few smart northern birds amongst them Steve, also many still in winter plumage. Viewing can be awkward as many of the birds are down below a ridge in the field.

Also I should point out that these birds are not actually at Cutacre, but in the large ploughed field on the other side of the motorway along Plodder Lane.

There are also 15+ Linnets in the field.

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As the Golden Plovers already seem to be paired up and settled into their breeding territories on our local moorlands, are these ones at Cutacre migrants heading for proper arctic tundra? Are they showing plumage characteristics of the northern race?
I'd be interested in local observers' opinions.

Cheers, Steve

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45 Golden Plover present in the ploughed field off Plodder Lane 6.30pm.

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At least 39 Golden Plover still in ploughed field off Plodder Lane 6pm, some in lovely breeding plumage, seen on way back from the Reebok. smile.gif

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still 8 golden plovers on plowed field if any one still wants them for there bolton/manchester lists
graeme

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There is nowt worse than posting a sighting on the infomation super highway that is Gmbirding only to read that birders turned up on your tip off and the birds were not there anymore, Gutted, i now feel redeemed smile.gif

i had a very nice 50 ish on tuesday, but only 7 tonight, so i am very happy to see Alan also got a large flock too, briilliant smile.gif

Great to see Keith also got them after a few attempts, sorry i dragged you away from your Ouzel search, hopefully you will get that one tommorow, smile.gifbiggrin.gif



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7-45 pm

Quick visit tonight to Plodder Lane fields as I need Golden Plover for my Bolton list.

I had 54+ Golden Plover Adjacent to Water Gate Lane and Plodder Lane, in ploughed field.

They seemed settled as though they were going to roost. Most were lying down.

Quite difficult to see and count as they are camaflaged in ploughed field.

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Watergate the truth!
Thanks to Dennis the Golden Plover located tonight at 6.45 pm:smile.gif
In ''green shoot'' field next to the ploughed Watergate Lane fields(nearer to Farnworth)
When I arrived 5 Showing quite close to the road down from Plodder Lane to the Cattery.
Dennis just leaving had seen 7.
Thanks again Dennis for your perserverance here and the phone call.




-- Edited by keith mills on Friday 8th of April 2011 09:26:11 PM

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No Problem Dennis. I spoke to a local lady who calls them the Lapwing fields. There was about 20 Lapwing present at Luchtime when I went back. But thats all.
Had a ride on my bike aroud Cutacre on the Tracks . Found a nice Graveyard with a Chiffchaff for company.

-- Edited by keith mills on Wednesday 6th of April 2011 10:00:45 PM

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Sorry Keith, me neither, two hours hunt tonight from 6-8pm this time with camera, covered all the adjacent fields, both sides of motorway and also all the hills around cutacre, cry.gif

no sign at all, gutted disbelief.gifno.gif never seen one locally cry.gif

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No sign of Golden Plover here, at 7am today.

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on the otherside of the motorway junction tonight from cutacre in between plodder lane and the junction, 7pm 50 ish golden plover in ploughed fields to the left as driving down from plodder lane smile.gif

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Green Sandpiper present today, 13 Skylark, Buzzard & several Redpoll.

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Brief stop today on A6 enroute from Daisy Hill (Lapland Bunting) to River Irwell.
3 Buzzards and 2 Raven all on same Electricity Pylon having a spat.

-- Edited by Alan Warford on Sunday 2nd of January 2011 08:03:48 PM

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Walk along S edge of Cutacre site, 9.00 -10.30, 6th Oct.
3 crossbill flew over high S in a group of 2 and a single
Willow Tit 1
Goldcrest 1
Chiffchaff 1
Blackcap 1
Grey Wagtail 2
Meadow pipit 50 S
Skylark 1 singing
Goldfinch 30
Reed Bunting
Chaffinch 20
Bullfinch 8
Siskin 2

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Sightings from recent survey work 12th+13th Sept,

Green Sandpiper 2
Golden Plover 2
Lapwing 60
Snipe 25
Grey Partridge 7
Skylark 36
Meadow Pipit - 124 over the 3 spoil heaps & further 110 flew south early am.
Linnet 16
Willow Tit
Swallow - approx 100 south early am
Peregrine carrying prey.
Blackcap 6
Garden Warbler 2
Chiffchaff 6
Whitethroat 4
Redpoll 3 south
Woodpigeon 260+

The excavation of coal has now moved to the southern end of the site and the west side where they were excavating earlier in the year should be restored soon. Its amazing how quickly a landscape can change.

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This evening, single Green Sandpiper, Peregrine on the pylon, Wheatear, 50 Mistle Thrush, 50 House Sparrows, 300 Goldfinch and small passage of Sand Martins heading south.

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Where we saw you, from our position was 4:18 miles three miles would end up in Tyldesley

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Wednesday 4th of August 2010 10:09:07 PM

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No sign of the egret this evening, just a single Green Sandpiper, several Snipe & 6 Groppers!

Ian I was on the very southern edge, near the Wigan border so it could be 3 miles to there maybewink.gif

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You lot need to work on your distances, its only 2 miles from the Peat pools to Cutacre, lets hope your bird counting is not as badwink.gif





Oh dear , 4.18 miles between the two according to Google Earth. Clearly mine is quite accurate

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That sighting must be worth tournament points, a bald Warfy head from 4 miles away!






Well done, Riggers - you've just given away one of the answers to this month's mystery photo competition biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

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Ok lets not get too carried awaywink.gif

You lot need to work on your distances, its only 2 miles from the Peat pools to Cutacre, lets hope your bird counting is not as badwink.gif

Was funny thoughbiggrin.gif

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Ian McKerchar wrote:

Warfy on Cutacre is a common resident wink.gif






Any proof of him breeding thereconfuse.gifwere any females presentdisbelief.gifand if they were ,was they in full summer dress or moulting the dress rapidlywink.gifbiggrin.gif

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Warfy on Cutacre is a common resident

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That sighting must be worth tournament points, a bald Warfy head from 4 miles away!






Only if they fill a raritys form in and they can prove they have seen a warfy beforeconfuse.gifpictures can be included,with tha raraties formwink.gifbiggrin.gifor a few crappy sketches with all relevent id markings includedsmile.gif

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That sighting must be worth tournament points, a bald Warfy head from 4 miles away!

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I haven't laughed so much in ages. It was remarkable when my companion Pete Berry said to me "you can see cutacre clear tonight" to which I though 'Warfy's just text me from there 30 seconds ago' so started scoping it. Ten seconds later a lonely figure appeared over the baron landscape! A quick phone call later and to be waving to each other whilst looking through our scopes and four or so miles apart was rediculous

One of my best finds of the year so far

I also more than chuckled when Pete commented at one stage "is he wearing a baseball cap"? No I said, that's his bald head!

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Tuesday 3rd of August 2010 11:38:50 PM

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This evening,

Little Egret, single Green Sandpiper, 20 Snipe, 500 Goldfinch, 2 Buzzard, 3 Little Owl, 4 Partridge, 2 Grasshopper Warblers.

and amazingly I received a phone call from a well known birder who was watching me from Astley Moss through his scope!! Theres no escapingdisbelief.gif.

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The burn up of the Bolton Borough continues...

While I was wondering around Cutacre this evening I stumbled accross a juvenile LITTLE EGRET on one of the drained pools!w00t.gif Just goes to show what can be hiding in the middle of nowhere! I checked these pools a couple of weeks ago and they were full, now they are half empty and water is being pumped out, presumably ready to be filled in for the forthcoming industrial estate. Also on the pools were 3 Green Sandpipers and a Little Ringed Plover.

Also this evening 3 Grasshopper Warblers continue to sing.

Easily 500 Goldfinch in 3 huge flocks.
Single flock of 40 House Sparrows.
Stock Dove - 4

Some sightings for July.

Hobby 3rd July
Curlew, Oystercatcher.
2 family parties of Grey Partridge.
Mandarin 4


-- Edited by Simon Warford on Sunday 1st of August 2010 10:00:24 PM

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Grasshopper Warbler singing still yesterday evening. Of interest, where I park now on the Over Hulton side, a chap from one of the large houses that overlook Cutacre started talking to me, and he went on to show me some footage from his CCTV of a pair of Mandarins that were nesting on his garden pond(its a big pond), then the footage went on to show a Fox taking all 11 eggs from the nest at 6am in the morning!

-- Edited by Simon Warford on Friday 4th of June 2010 08:41:55 AM

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16/5/10 pm - back down to earth after a week in wonderful Hungary.

Raven 1
Lesser Whitethroat 1
Buzzard 3
Grasshopper Warbler 1
Whitethroat 3
Stock Dove 4
Swift 30

Late news 7th May - 4 Mandarin.

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10.15am Friday 14th May
Whinchat on fence posts along eastern edge of works.
Also singing Sedge warbler and Lesser Whitethroat.

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Rob Thorpe wrote:

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This evening with Melanie B.




Of Spice Girls fame?



Sadly for Simon....no biggrin.gif

Can't see Scary Spice, legging round Cutacre, hanging round Astley etc....in the hope of seeing birds, like me smile.gif

Although Scary and l share the same name (almost) and similar hair, alas l don't have her money or fame hmm.gif

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Of Spice Girls fame?

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This evening with Melanie B.

Very suprised to find a pair of Mandarin on one of the small pools late this evening, obviously a site first for mesmile.gif

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18/4/10

Buzzard 4
Stock Dove 4
Grey Partridge 2
Chiffchaff1
Swallow 2
Linnet 5


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2/4/10

Good numbers of birds in the fields just south of Adises farm today, included at least 50 Meadow pipits, 6+ Pied Wagtails, 7 Fieldfare and best of all 2 pairs of Wheatears. Also around 2 Grey Partridge, Buzzard, Sparrowhawk, 6 Stock Dove, 3 Kestrel, 20+ Skylark, many Reed Buntings & Lapwings and another male Wheatear near "Shorelark summit".


-- Edited by Simon Warford on Friday 2nd of April 2010 05:09:05 PM

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27/2/10

Buzzard 1
Little Owl 1
Barn Owl 1
Skylark 15
Stock Dove 4
Grey Partridge 2
Meadow Pipit 3
Woodcock 1
Kestrel 2
Teal 3


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14/2/10 pm

Peregrine 2
Sparrowhawk 1
Buzzard 2
Skylark 20
Linnet 25+
Pheasant 15
Stock Dove 2
Reed Bunting 6
Bullfinch 5
Kestrel 2

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Sat 6/2 15:45 - 17:00

1 G Heron to add to Tetrad list

Also, found a mobile phone on the stubble field leading up to the rocky ridge. Please contact me by mail for deatils and collection.

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6/2/10 2pm till late

Covered all the spoil heapswink.gif

No sign of Shorelark despite a good search by at least 4 birders.
Little Owl 1
Buzzard 2
Skylark 8
Linnet 8
Reed Bunting 12
Bullfinch 7
Greenfinch 20
Fieldfare 40
Pheasant 25
Partridge 9smile.gif
Snipe 5
single Fox

2 large skiens of Pink Feet both north west, 150 at 2.30 & 90+ at 3.45pm.

-- Edited by Simon Warford on Saturday 6th of February 2010 07:42:32 PM

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Mike ive read your private message, it definately sounds like you were looking in the wrong place im afraid. Where the path goes to the left after the metal gate you need to go straight on over a fence and onto the second spoil heap back, it maybe Sunday before I can next get down but if anyone wants to see the bird and are unsure where to go (it is rather elusive at times) I would be happy to assist sunday morning. pm me,

The Shorelark wasnt seen this morning in a brief search.


-- Edited by Simon Warford on Friday 5th of February 2010 06:21:24 PM

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Fri 5/2 12;00 - 13;15 Sunny spells, mild, still.

No sign of Shorelark - was it seen yesterday 4/2?

Not sure if I was in the right area? I was on a steep green grassy bank with a pool to my right looking at a large mound of rocks and shale with a grassy / field bank to the right.

Skylark 1+ singing (Spring is almost here?) + 1's over
Pied Wagtail 1 (M)
Chaffinch 1 (M)
Greenfinch
Robin 1 + 1(singing)
Dunnock
B Tit
G Tit
Blackbird 1 + 2
Staring c. 50
Fieldfare c. 20
Redwing 2
M Thrush 3
C Crow
Jackdaw
B hd Gull 5

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