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Crosby Marina


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Snow Bunting still present. Chasing Skylarks round the rough field alongside the boating lake.

Turnstone on the boating lake, stood on the ice.

Several Goldeneye and Tufted Duck on Marina.



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Next to the boating pool there's a little fence, and the Snow Bunting (m) was hanging around there with Skylarks; flew off but returned to this favoured spot

Also, 5 Snipe & 1 Jack Snipe

On beach, 1 Mediterranean Gull (ad) with the numerous other gulls; also 1 Bar-Tailed Godwit, 20 Grey Plover, Dunlin, Oystercatchers, Curlew, Redshank

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Arrived today at Crosby Marina at around 10.30ish and first bird to see was an Oystercatcher followed by a Fieldfare near the car park. Walked to Marina and there was 3 female Goldeneye and 2 males showing well. As we got to the dunes we bumped into a guy who was studying skylarks and there rings and he told us the snow bunting was with them. It was blowing a force nine gale by this time and was absolutely freezing. Searched the dunes at the back of the marina and as always in birding persistence pays dividends and we found it with the skylarks (see pictures) well worth a visit as there are Redshanks, Snipe, Cormorants and all types of gulls here as well.

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Arrived this afternoon for a couple of hours after visiting Neston marsh area.

I was starting to wonder where on earth was the sunshine that was promised by the weather forecast? Still, on with the day!!!

My intention here was to try and find the snow bunting, and with details being vague, it was going to be like finding a needle in a haystack! Where do I start??? Fortunately, after 10 minutes, it looked like two other guys were also out to look for it and found it- so I made a bee line to where they were and my instincts were spot on!!!! He was on a pile of wood by the side of the path!!!

After taking a few pictures, I thanked the guys as the snow bunting made his way through the dunes. I thought I will go ahead of him to sit down and wait, but he was a fast mover- so with little planning time, I sat down on the side of the path and he therefore came amazingly close!!!

I must have been there a good 15 minutes before he flew off as a dog walker was coming!

Also noteworthy was a good number of common gulls, but- by 2:20pm, 3 days of very early mornings with lots of activity began to catch up with me so I decided to call it a day! - tired but satisfied!

Total species today- 53

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10 Wheatears around the lake at 7 am . Cheers Chris



-- Edited by Chris Greene on Friday 15th of April 2016 03:56:39 PM

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On a family visit during high tide at 2-ish, of interest over and around the marina:- Whimbrel, Little Gull, Linnet, Yellow Wagtail (1 adult 3 young), a few Swallows and House Martins and on Seaforth reserve Common Tern and Black Tern. Really nice weather as well for a change biggrin

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Managed to get pretty decent views of the long tailed duck at the western end of the lake at around 12:15 today. A kingfisher that flew across the shore in that part was more unexpected.
Other birds seen were:
2 peregrine
4 great crested grebe
5 meadow pipit
3 corn bunting

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Lesser Whitethroat rattling from cover-brambles and some small trees inc a Horse Chestnut-along the fence between Seaforth Reserve & Crosby Marina. Close to car park .Showed pretty well.
At least one Wheatear on Seaforth side.

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Hi Paul, were you at Crosby on Sunday - me too

You get pretty big flocks of starlings around the sea-front car park in the winter months
- attracted by all the food-based freebies on offer.

p.s saw a guillemot swimming very close in at high tide



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Originally posted by Paul Brady today:

Out of interest there was a lovely adult non-breeding plumage Mediterranean Gull at the beach yesterday, lots of starlings in the are too - migrants?

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Superb Male Scaup showing well in the marina today,

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Did you see it? It was small and brown and flew that way.........................


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Took a trip out to see Antony Gormley's Another Place, brought my binos along for the ride. and spent a fab day in Liverpool (the new museum is worth a look!)

I entered Crosby in the eye of a perfect storm, but it left in ten minutes, replaced by sunshine and leaving a brief but excellent rainbow out over Wirral.

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2 Shelduck, 4 Tufted Ducks (little boating lake)
Naff all on the main Marine Lake, bare a Mute Swan.

About ten Wheatear among the sand dunes, with five at one point gathering on the marine lake shore.
6 or 7 Linnets.
Disappointed to not score any other Chats despite trying hard, but that's life.

Edit: Also on the beach quite far out, a flock of what I reckoned to be Sanderlings? numbered 20 or so.

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The White- tailed Lapwing was reported as still being present this morning and even for non permit holders it's worth a visit for a peer through the fence wink.gif

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Ian McKerchar wrote:

Just uploaded some cracking photos of the bird onto the galleries. Gives all you folk peering through the bars at Crosby a look at what the bird really looked like biggrin.gif



Yer can't spoil my lifer Ian I've seen some excellent pics of the bird as well and it definitely looks like the bird I saw. wink.gif

Furthermore to quote a well known Sefton birder "At least those outside the perimeter fence got to admire 70+ Swifts feeding low to the water of Crosby Marine Lake at point blank range while the Plover/Lapwing was out of sight."


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Just uploaded some cracking photos of the bird onto the galleries. Gives all you folk peering through the bars at Crosby a look at what the bird really looked like

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15.30 - 17.45, Sunny with moderate NW wind

Couldn't decide where to go this afternoon for a bit of fresh air until I checked the web - White-tailed Lapwing at Seaforth - let's go biggrin.gif

Had reasonable views of the bird a couple of times when we first arrived, looking through the fence onto the reserve from the marina but when the hazy conditions changed to clearer later in the afternoon had a really good if short view at around 16.45. A smashing bird and a life time first for me. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

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Made my annual April trip here yesterday (Wed 15th) and for the first time ever did not connect with any Little gulls.


Anne I too was at Crosby briefly yesterday and I didn't find Little Gulls either. Some Linnets on the reserve fence, Dunlin, Ruff and Blackwits on the beach were the only birds of interest for me.





-- Edited by sid ashton on Friday 16th of April 2010 05:30:12 PM

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Made my annual April trip here yesterday (Wed 15th) and for the first time ever did not connect with any Little gulls. I wonder if the harsh winter has delayed the insect hatch that attracts them here. Very few birds around the marina, just an alba Wagtail and a superb female Greenland race Wheatear in the sand dunes.

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At the risk of going off topic - I've tried and failed with digiscoping and my kit is on a well known site finishing at 7pm tonight [no.gif]. I know a scope is considered a requirement but currently I'm happy with some good bins [Hawkes - so not as good as swaros etc but better than I'd used before] plus a 400mm lens - it means anything I can see with the bins will be ID able on a photo...

Then I'll save up/sell the kids for a light scope and a 500mm F4 lens...

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sid ashton wrote:

OK guys I understand all that you say about photographers but let me add a couple of points. I believe that there wasn't just one big lens at very close quarters to the Phal yesterday but 4 or 5 - eventually, despite its otherwise forgiving nature the bird did a runner. It obviously wanted to be on the boating lake because it had returned and was feeding happily later on when there was just one other birder and myself present.

I appreciate that a lot of birders are also photographers - my birding friend is one herself but she would always observe correct field craft by not alarming the bird and not disrupting other folks' enjoyment of the moment. I believe that this would be your way John - don't expect that you upset too many folk jogging around Hollingworth trying to get pics of the diver wink.gif. I also appreciate what you say about taking hours when you get home going through your shots - in a similar way I used to spend hours in the dark room perfecting my prints in predigital days when using a full roll of 36 shots was a luxury. I did enjoy the photos of the Penny Slav that you sent to me and they are saved in my collection for future viewing.

So points made - now where's the best place to buy one of these digi camera jobbies? Promise I won't buy one of those motor drive gadgets to annoy everyone else in the hide biggrin.gif





no motordrives these days,they are all 6 or 7 frames a second,like you i used to hate the 36 film slide days,i was scared of pressing the shutter as it was 7 everytime i did.jessops have gone very competitive recently and quite often are as cheap as online retailers,you will need a wazzin lens though,and a big bag,add a second camera body,your telescope,tripod,bins,and you can see why i was sweatin runnin round hollingsworth.biggrin.gif

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OK guys I understand all that you say about photographers but let me add a couple of points. I believe that there wasn't just one big lens at very close quarters to the Phal yesterday but 4 or 5 - eventually, despite its otherwise forgiving nature the bird did a runner. It obviously wanted to be on the boating lake because it had returned and was feeding happily later on when there was just one other birder and myself present.

I appreciate that a lot of birders are also photographers - my birding friend is one herself but she would always observe correct field craft by not alarming the bird and not disrupting other folks' enjoyment of the moment. I believe that this would be your way John - don't expect that you upset too many folk jogging around Hollingworth trying to get pics of the diver wink.gif. I also appreciate what you say about taking hours when you get home going through your shots - in a similar way I used to spend hours in the dark room perfecting my prints in predigital days when using a full roll of 36 shots was a luxury. I did enjoy the photos of the Penny Slav that you sent to me and they are saved in my collection for future viewing.

So points made - now where's the best place to buy one of these digi camera jobbies? Promise I won't buy one of those motor drive gadgets to annoy everyone else in the hide biggrin.gif

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smile.gif no shooting here Sid, just sometimes photographers get a bad name when it's not justified. Of course it seems that nowadays plenty birders carry dslr's so most fall into the photographer bracket. Being a digiscoper I'd be backing away to get a shot! There are though apparently lots of examples of poor fieldcraft, particularly from 'our friends' but I have to admit to never witnessing it myself though not generally twitching anymore I'm unlikely to I suppose? Back in the day though...wink.gif





Ian is 100% correct
A lot of birders are photographers now,look at me .I class myself as a birder,but 80% of the time now im trying to get a picture as well,it becomes like twiching ,a bit addictive,and sometimes the moment takes over the common sense. like me the other week charging round hollingworth trying to get in front of the diver,i must have looked like a demented jogger,carrying about 40lb on my back,trying to runconfuse.gifpast the diver when it was under,only to find it had come up another 50 yards further on.i was weezing like an azmatic pit ponydisbelief.gifbut got some nice shots for all my efffort.
A lot of birders don't realise the time photographers put in at home afterwards.The Diver for instance,i spent 2 hours getting 200 shots,but when i got home it took 4 hours to sort,process,and get about 6 good ones ,to send to Ian for the site,and to send to my freinds,who like to see my shots,so that photographer taking the phalarope was probably still working on them shots when all the birders there were out with thier families having a meal ,or just relaxing watching telly.In general it takes twice as long messing at home with the photos,as the time actually birding so think on when everyone is complaining about the shutter nutter firing a thousand shots off ,at a yellow legged gull,in truth hes working his nuts off ,so everyone can see how these birds look.smile.gif

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no shooting here Sid, just sometimes photographers get a bad name when it's not justified. Of course it seems that nowadays plenty birders carry dslr's so most fall into the photographer bracket. Being a digiscoper I'd be backing away to get a shot! There are though apparently lots of examples of poor fieldcraft, particularly from 'our friends' but I have to admit to never witnessing it myself though not generally twitching anymore I'm unlikely to I suppose? Back in the day though...

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I went to see the Phalarope - kids in tow [and ordered to stay on the path and keep quiet which they did thankfully!] first thing this morning en route to their dancing classes!

It was an amazing experience to see a bird so completely oblivious - I got some record shots from about 12m when it swam my way and even when someone else got to within about 5m it didn't seem too spooked. The light was poor first thing and I only ever want record shots without disturbing the birds but I did really cringe when the other chap went quite so close, if he'd stayed still and waited it would have come to him!

I've witnessed some pretty poor behaviour a couple of time now but not always by photographers so I guess its all down to the individuals no matter what they're carrying scope or lens wise!

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Don't shoot the messenger Ian - I was just reporting what the guys I met told me wink.gif

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Having seen the Grey Phal yesterday as I was at Seaforth anyhow, I seriously doubt our 'photographic friends' could have disturbed this individual. It was then, and I believe certainly was earlier today atleast also, oblivious to those watching it and was swimming right up to folk, blinkin' long lenses or not.

As Pete Berry put, it was 'strokeable' at times of it's own accord. Sometimes birders can get the wrong impression of photographers when in instances like this (and last years Steppe Grey Shrike in Lincolnshire) the bird comes to them yet birders misinterpret it as typical photographer behaviour, harassing the subject. They're not all bad, but some of them...

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I was in Liverpool today helping our daughter move to a new flat and found the time late on to go over to Crosby - well actually they were putting the lights out when I got there at 15.30. Met a couple of birders in the car park who said that the Grey Phalarope had been present on the boating lake, as reported earlier in the day but it had been flushed by our photograhic "friends". hmm.gif Still thought it was worthwhile having a look and there it was at the far end of the boating lake from the car park - it was still a tad flighty but looked as though it was settling in for the night. On the way back to the car spotted 3 Shag, a single juv Red Breasted Merganser and a pair of Golden Eye on the main marina then back into Liverpool centre in time for teabiggrin.gif

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Pallid Swift appeared with large group of Common Swifts yesterday afternoon - just ahead of rain. Bears out Rob's theory!

At Seaforth 800+ Common Terns joined by 1 Arctic, 1 Little and 1 Roseate Tern.

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Rob Smallwood wrote:

My theory stands!




Stick with it Rob - I'm with you smile.gifwink.gif

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My theory stands!

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sid ashton wrote:


Perhaps it never left - just that there may have been a few more birders today looking for the Terns??

Simon Glinn wrote:

It's reported as back tonight ...











Not sure about that - some very good eyes (not mine! I saw the bird the previous weekend) spent a large part of last Sunday looking for it without success ...

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Perhaps it never left - just that there may have been a few more birders today looking for the Terns??
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It's reported as back tonight ...








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It's reported as back tonight ...

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It would then be picked up again high up above the line of the cranes where it sometimes seemed to 'hover' and jink. The flight was more varied and acrobatic than that of the regular Swifts present.



Tim

The flight pattern as you described it was exactly how I saw it - quite distinctive.


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I successfully twitched this last Tuesday - stopping at Ikea Warrington on the way (I like the casual approach to twitching!) The weather was foul and it was zooming in low right over the heads of the Seaforth crew at their hide but it would then instantly disappear as one tried to track it through the fence. It would then be picked up again high up above the line of the cranes where it sometimes seemed to 'hover' and jink. The flight was more varied and acrobatic than that of the regular Swifts present.

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Rob Smallwood wrote:

My theory is that this bird is associating with local swifts, so may hang around for a while - no idea if common & Pallid ever hybridise - if so watch out for some really tricky id's in the autumn.

Many swifts must have passed through the area whilst this one has been here...






Of course posting this was it's cue to depat.....evileye.gif

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Definiely feeds lower in poor weather - the last really calm sunny day, a week ago the bird wasn not seen after early morning.

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sid ashton wrote:



But questions for eveyone - we know that Swifts live on the wing - some of these birds including the Pallid have been around Crosby/Seaforth for more than a week now. There is obviously plenty for them to eat - how long are they likely to stay? - without being specific are there suitable nesting sites around the area? Just a couple of questions I have been asking myself whilst cutting the grass since I got homeyawn.gifyawn.gif

Anyone any suggestions as to their next possible move?

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Hi Sid. There will be swifts over the area all summer with plenty of possible nest sites in the area. Some interesting comments on UK Swifts about the habits of the Pallid. One member reckons that the bird is 'roosting' over the lake and coming down to lower levels early and late and staying at lower levels when it's overcast. Don't know how that fits in with what people on here have noticed, but if it's true I'm hoping for poor weather when I'm at home next Tuesday. please.gif

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My theory is that this bird is associating with local swifts, so may hang around for a while - no idea if common & Pallid ever hybridise - if so watch out for some really tricky id's in the autumn.

Many swifts must have passed through the area whilst this one has been here...

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Geoff if you think I had a long wait there was a bloke with a big lens in the car park who I overheard telling his mate that he would get some decent shots when the Swifts settled on the bushesdisbelief.gifdisbelief.gif he's probably still waiting.

But questions for eveyone - we know that Swifts live on the wing - some of these birds including the Pallid have been around Crosby/Seaforth for more than a week now. There is obviously plenty for them to eat - how long are they likely to stay? - without being specific are there suitable nesting sites around the area? Just a couple of questions I have been asking myself whilst cutting the grass since I got homeyawn.gifyawn.gif

Anyone any suggestions as to their next possible move?

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Fancy waiting nearly three hours for something that needed colour in it's cheeks.smile.gif
Well done Sid

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Couldn't resist another look at the Pallid Swift - arrived Crosby 06.15 had to wait until 09.00 but well worth the wait - the bird flew off the marina into the reserve directly over our heads. If anyone else is going over today there are a lot more Common Swifts about but same as on Wednesday it does seem to keep itslf separate from the pack - otherwise would be tricky to pick out.

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"We Three" called in after Inner Marsh and New Brighton area, but did not see it at 3.30pm. One guy said he last saw it at noon - don't know how long he had been there leaning on the railings!! Tried for the prom, but it was too windy, so settled for a bad traffic drive homecry.gif

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Yep, Pete that's how it goes sometimes I shall have to be content with yesterday's good sightings - just a pity that our friend didn't see the bird today - she missed the Osprey as well disbelief.gifdisbelief.gif

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I know I should be pleased just to have seen such an amazing bird but I just double checked my hopeful shots from tonight and I even got a passable [just] record shot!

-- Edited by Pete Welch on Thursday 7th of May 2009 09:55:06 PM

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RE: Crosby Marina


I went across tonight - left it far too late but it was showing against the grey storm clouds and the sides of the warehouse well from 8.25pm until I gave up at about 8.45pm. Spoke to a couple of chaps who'd been watching it since 6pm so you were unlucky Sid.

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Couldn't resist another chance of the Pallid Swift today - we had previously organised a visit to Seaforth so it was a good opportunity for the one member of our party who hadn't seen the bird to get on to it. Despite two visits 07.30- 09.30 and 16.30 - 18.00 we didn't manage it. However when we first arrived this morning we had the amazing experience of "flying with Swifts" - there were dozens in the marina car park flying really low and close to us, amazing. Oh, we also had an Osprey flying over heading North.

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Eventually managed to get over to Crosby this afternoon - good views of the Pallid Swift at the Northern End of the marina and then over the reserve- strange to see a "brown" Swift to start with but then able to distinguish the diagnostic features. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

Also several White Wags, Wheatear, Black Redstart(f) and one of those little birds that we don't mention for now - all on the grass safely "behind bars" on the reserve and Little Gulls and Common Tern over.

-- Edited by sid ashton on Wednesday 6th of May 2009 06:43:34 PM

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monday 4.05.09
We got the palid swift liferbiggrin.gif at 3.00pm from the car park after just arriving.apparantly it had just been over tother side of fence but greatfully came right over our heads and all the twitchers came running.Great views of a very rare bird for merseyside.
oh and almost forgot a little gull also over the marina.biggrin.gif

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Present fot it's 5th day, a record in the UK (for a healthy bird, ie. not taken into care). Get down there, only 40 mins from Chorlton, it wont be around forever. It came so close you couldn't focus your bins at times and could be picked out with the naked eye. It almost knocked my hat off and parted my hair after Rob & Sonia left this morning biggrin.gif.

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