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RE: Dove Stone RSPB (including Binn Green and environs)


Hi all, I'm an out of towner looking to spend the day (10.30 til dusk) around Dove Stone. Any advice for a walk that takes in some of the best spots would be gratefully received.

The last two dipper spots mention the overflow; is that the rather impressive knobbled (official architectural term) weir between Yeoman Hey and Dove stone? Is this regularly the best place for dippers or are there others nearby?

And if there's still a rough-legged buzzard around in the area that's got to be worth staking out for.

Cheers!

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Sunday 4.1.15. Beautiful sunny day. Walked up to Pots and Pans through Dick Clough. Hawthorns and holly still have a good crop of berries attracting mistle thrush, fieldfare and redwing in flocks. Small flock of bullfinch with a lovely male prominent. Small flock of little brown jobs with forked tails, brown streaked, black bibs, on closer inspection turned out to be redpoll. Juveniles with no red cap a bit difficult to identify. Overhead a raven was mobbing a female sparrowhawk, then a buzzard near the ruined farm. A great site, shelter and food for lots of species.

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Thursday 8th of January 2015 08:13:21 PM

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Feeders Binn Green Pair of Bramling, Siskin, Great Spotted Woodpecker. also Treecreeper, Nuthatch, 2 Jay, Coal tit, Long Tailed Tit Goldfinch and Goldcrest

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Thursday 8th of January 2015 08:12:45 PM

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Two and half hours late morning /early afternoon on the moors above Dove Stone optimistic raptor watching produced only
Kestrel 4
Stonechat 1
Raven 3+
Red Grouse 30+
Meadow Pipit 4

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After several years and many visits with my sister, i finally saw a Dipper up here - not just 1 but 2!!! Both in the overflow channel alongside Yeoman Hay. Elsewhere Grey Wagtail - 1 in overflow channel near Greenfield Reservoir. Another over calling. Reed Bunting - 1 heard near Yeoman Hay, 3 in trees near sailing club. Nuthatch - 1 at Binn Green feeders Coal Tit - 6+ at Binn Green feeders Chaffinch - c20 at Binn Green feeders Goldfinch, Great Tit, Blue Tit - plenty at Binn Green feeders. Elsewhere c30 Black-headed Gull, c50 Malkard, c8 Pheasants, Magpie, c30 Jackdaw, a few Crows and c6 Woodpigeon. Several Thrushes high in trees in field opposite the Lifeforalife wood. I suspect that they were Fieldfares but my view was rather obstructed.

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At least 1 Brambling at Binn Green at 10am this morning also a Common Buzzard being mobbed by a Merlin on the otherside of the valley.
It was hovering but was definitely a Common Buzzard.

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Amble round Dove Stone Res. 13:00-14:30 . Highlights: Peregrine and Raven over towards Chew Res. Dipper and Grey Wagtail ,overflow. Plenty of Chaffinch, Blue and Great Tits around Memorial Forest,alas no sign of any Brambling. Five Mistle Thrush and two Jays squabbling in conifers behind sailing club. Cheers Chris.

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Juvenile Rough-legged Buzzard once again in Saddleworth Moor above Greenfield Reservoir, at 12:20 today.

Info thanks to Mark Rigby

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circular walk around Dove Stone Reservoir today.
highlights were:
single brambling with chaffinches
great spotted woodpecker and
roughly 100 fieldfare


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Mark Rigby wrote:

No sign of any Rough-legged Buzzard this morning. Not seen in Greater Manchester since last Sunday as far as I aware.


Just my very brief sighting on Monday Mark wink

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No sign of any Rough-legged Buzzard this morning. Not seen in Greater Manchester since last Sunday as far as I aware.

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at least 5 Brambling at Binn Green - more around.

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Rough-legged buzzard on A635 to holmfirth on left just after Wessenden head road turning
Yorkshire

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Meanwhile just down the road at Bonn green and before traffic works in greater manchester

4 common buzzards hovering and dropping on to moor got me excited for a while

Several pairs of raven

Pair of peregrines

Fem kestrel

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Having only ever seen one Rough-legged Buzzard a while ago I headed to the hills this morning for a mooch. Arriving at 08.30 visibility wasn't of the best and the area near the white sacks of heather was busy anyway so I carried on to the Pennine Way parking area until the mist cleared. Lots of Red Grouse up there and hundreds of overflying Starlings.

Had a stop at the Marsden Moor Heritage trail car park then managed to park off road just down from the white sacks, which by now were being moved out by helicopter. After an hour or so there I had the briefest of into-the-sun glimpses of one of the Rough-legged Buzzards on the hillside above Greenfield reservoir and that, apart from lots of Pheasants, a couple of Ravens and a Kestrel, was that.

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Ian McKerchar wrote:

Three Rough-legged Buzzard by the Holmfirth Road above Digley Reservoir near to the Holm Moss transmitter, the way to Holmfirth this afternoon but probably fairly well into Yorkshire.

Info thanks to Judith Smith





for "probably" read "definitely"

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Three Rough-legged Buzzard by the Holmfirth Road above Digley Reservoir near to the Holm Moss transmitter, the way to Holmfirth this afternoon but probably fairly well into Yorkshire.

Info thanks to Judith Smith

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Ad Rough-legged Buzzard on Saddleeorth Moor above Greenfield reservoir at 1230hrs. It was joined by a juv Rough-legged Buzzard at 1300 biggrin

Also

Merlin
4 Kestrel
2 Common Buzzard
Sparrowhawk
50 Starling over
50+ Red Grouse
Meadow Pipit

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No sign of Rough-legged Buzzard(s) between 11-1200hrs or 1330-1415

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2 buzzards over Intake Lane, Greenfield this afternoon at 3pm. Distant views through a scope from my back garden. One hung in the wind for a long time and showed occasional glimpses of white and black in the tail before disappearing over the ridge. It was presumably a juvenile Rough Legged. The other was a very pale individual that landed on a distant rock. I got in the car and drove across the valley managing to locate it on Intake Lane. It was very pale looking black and white but eventually it flew revealing it to be a common buzzard.

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4/11/14

Rough-legged Buzzard seen briefly at 0815 sat on fence post above Yeoman Hey reservoir.
Common Buzzard
6 Raven
3 Kestrel
95 Pink-footed Goose
1490 Woodpigeon
7 Meadow Pipit
Pied Wagtail
4 Rook
Red-legged Partridge

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Rough Legged Buzzards Absent from 12 to 2.15. Had to stop at Binn Green to use the public toilet, opened the door to find two men buttoning up their trousers. Door was not locked. It was a bit of a shock. One of them literally flew out like a released pheasant. Does this happen a lot? Where can it be reported?





Its a well known site I'm afraid and should be reported to the Police.

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Rough Legged Buzzards Absent from 12 to 2.15. Had to stop at Binn Green to use the public toilet, opened the door to find two men buttoning up their trousers. Door was not locked. It was a bit of a shock. One of them literally flew out like a released pheasant. Does this happen a lot? Where can it be reported?

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1 juv Rough-Legged Buzzard off the plateaux of the moor (Featherbed Moss? Apologies, unsure if that's the area) and N over Holmfirth Road between 11:40-11:50
Min 26 Red Grouse along the road there to the car park on the W Yorks boundary
1 Redpoll W over the moor

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Rick Hall wrote:


Nice to meet Simon Gough, fingers crossed they re-appear and stick around till Friday for you Simon.





Meeting Rick was a highlight today in a Buzzard-free afternoon. One of the few guys in Manchester to have tripped over a Quail...thanks for the lift back to Ashton mate



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Three for myself and others today (lifer) - but all had vacated and by 2.30pm no further sign, inclusive of a drive towards Holmfirth. Good day out with great company.

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Three Rough Legged Buzzards today but they all seemed to have disappeared by about 1.30-2.00. A couple of very attractive green pheasants trying to get themselves run over too. Loads of Kestrels about as well as Red Grouse.

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90% sure I saw one of the Rough Legged Buzzards at about 1.30, but i was by myself and can't be certain. it had the light/white tail patch, but I'm not confident enough to say for definite. Later quite a few birders turned up, but no Rough legged Buzzards showed up to give 100% positive ID. Gutted.
Nice to meet Simon Gough, fingers crossed they re-appear and stick around till Friday for you Simon.

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3rd Oct.

Now three Rough-legged Buzzards present at their usual location by the white sacks.

All three were in the air together at 11.30 hrs plus a Common Buzzard.
One of the Rough-legged appeared to be a little larger (female ?) than the other two which seem to be the same two that I saw on Saturday.

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Peregrine.
Raven.

Viewed from the Pennine Way lay-by.

Roger.

-- Edited by Roger Baker 3 on Monday 3rd of November 2014 03:28:43 PM

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Steve Suttill wrote:

I've had a look at John Tymon's photos on Flickr (usual excellent shots from him) but the upper tail pattern doesn't match that of the bird I first reported from Intake Lane. I've checked with John and he hasn't got any other pictures which show a differing tail pattern between the two birds seen above Yeoman Hey.

Has anyone got good photos showing the upper tail pattern of either or both birds? It might help sort out just how many Rough-legged Buzzards we've had in the area!

Cheers.





Has anyone got good photos showing the upper tail pattern of ANY of these birds? It might help sort out just how many Rough-legged Buzzards we've had in the area!
smilesmilesmile

Thanks to all who have sent me photos already.

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Now three Rough-legged Buzzards present at their usual location by the white sacks.

Info thanks to Andy Makin

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The dead pheasant are around because they're released prior to the game season.
They release so many that they inevitably end up as road kill. Most of the shooting up there is organised drives run by upperwood farm.
It's not unusual to see red-legged partridge at DS to for the same reason.
In the past I've seen (both plans and occasionally the birds) all kinds of exotic galliformes on the moor up there.

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A late post from yesterday but just to echo what others have said - sensational views of one of the Rough-legged Buzzards from the roadside, what a great find.

Also in the area: Kestrel, Raven and plenty of Pheasant and Red Grouse.

At Binn Green feeders for half an hour afterwards - highlights were Siskin, Lesser Redpoll, Nuthatch and huge numbers of Coal Tit. Nice also to chat with Brian and Helen.

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I've had a look at John Tymon's photos on Flickr (usual excellent shots from him) but the upper tail pattern doesn't match that of the bird I first reported from Intake Lane. I've checked with John and he hasn't got any other pictures which show a differing tail pattern between the two birds seen above Yeoman Hey.

Has anyone got good photos showing the upper tail pattern of either or both birds? It might help sort out just how many Rough-legged Buzzards we've had in the area!

Cheers.

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Both Rough-legged Buzzard still present over the moors first thing this morning.. Great birds and a great find.. Rob

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An alternative explanation is that they're shot out of season, and dumped in the road. I've heard that's done with badgers.

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The road up from Binn Green past the farm is a trail of dead Pheasants all year round. I think they deliberately get themselves run over to avoid getting shot.

Not the brightest of birds no

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On the drive up, I saw a dead female Pheasant in the middle of the road. Assumed initially it was roadkill, but obviously it could equally likely have been shot. Which makes me fear for the future of the RLBuzzards we've all been so pleased to see.

Fingers crossed they avoid the guns.

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Sunday 2nd of November 2014 09:36:50 PM

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Thanks for that Roger, that explains the good number of Pheasant there.

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Also of note at the Conifers below the red tarmac was an unusual group of pheasants including the usual plumage, 2 Black, 1 Albino, and a stunning dark Emerald male.
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That is where the rearing pens are located Rob and the birds are still fed there regular.

If you had rattled a bucket of corn they would probably have run to you ...... could have sorted your Christmas dinner out !

Roger.

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Nev Wright wrote:

For those of us who missed out on the excitement, does anyone know if they tend to be long-stayers (at least until next weekend)?





Could be there all winter or gone tomorrow ,almost impossible to predict :)

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For those of us who missed out on the excitement, does anyone know if they tend to be long-stayers (at least until next weekend)?

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just like many others this morning fantastic views of one of the rough-legged buzzards, brief views of the second one. lifer biggrin

nice to meet you again Ollie & many other familiar faces, thanks again dennis for you're help always appreciated wink

at binn green feeders...

1 brambling
1 nuthatch
2 great spotted woodpecker
siskin, chaffinch, greenfinch, blue, great & coal tits.

also on the way up this morning 2 flocks of fieldfares flying down towards binn green car park, 60+ & 15+
70-80 pink footed goose, east.

thanks again phil & rob for the lift.

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Male type Ring Ouzel briefly on heather on the moor above the current Rough-legged Buzzard site this afternoon.

Info thanks to Andy Makin

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Nice to meet you Brian and Helen, also good to meet Dennis Atherton, and the familiar faces of Steven Burke, Phil Kelly, John Raynor, John Thymon, and everyone else who was there today!

One Rough-legged Buzzard showing spectacularly well around the Heather bags, giving not just good photo opportunities but an excellent chance to admire both the unusual plumage and distinguishing features, but also its mastery in flight and hanging in the wind whilst looking for prey.
The bird landed a few times but didn't appear to catch anything from what I could see, it then took off again and glided right over us and towards the valley.

The 2nd bird appeared briefly and almost immediately, a Peregrine joined them and started to harass one of them. The 2nd bird then disappeared down towards Yeoman's Hey and it looked like a Common Buzzard was drifting behind it which is pretty much a similar case to yesterday. The 1st bird continued to show off its aerial prowess within close proximity, and all that despite being a juveniles!

What an absolutely fantastic species to watch, I have taken in a lot of visual info about a County Rarity Raptor, a Lifer for me, and it has been a weekend that will live long in my memory....Steve Suttill....hats off mate!

Other birds of note...
5 Kestrel (could be duplicates)
3 Raven
Plenty of Carrion Crow and Jackdaw
1 Jay
At least 10-15 Red Grouse including a flying party of 6

Also of note at the Conifers below the red tarmac was an unusual group of pheasants including the usual plumage, 2 Black, 1 Albino, and a stunning dark Emerald male.

...oh and Dennis thanks for the ID help on the overhead passerine, "LBJ Rob", can't really be 100% sure on matching the flight call but the high pitched "peessp" seems familiar.



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I'd like to second Roger's comments about Steve and Mark, and I hope Master Rigby wasn't treated too badly after misidentifying the second bird as a Kestrel - he isn't the first, and won't be the last wink

I've never "twitched" anything in my life, but as this one was literally ten minutes away, I must admit to feeling a sinew or two flexing. During my several brief visits, viewed mainly further up from the madding crowd, from the solitude of the Isle of Skye car park on the county boundary, it appeared that the birds tended to split up, with one performing for the gallery over the heather sacks, while the other drifted over north towards Diggle and Brun Clough, out of sight of the road. Such a distinctive flight behaviour - brilliant!

Other sightings -

5 Kestrel
1 Peregrine
1 Common Buzzard
39 Red Grouse (I counted them!)

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Superb views of Rough-legged Buzzard today - lots of birders present, nice to see Steve Burke again.

Many thanks for the info!

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11.30am-12.30pm
Great views of 1 Rough-legged Buzzard throughout this time from the white sacks. The bird was briefly joined by the second bird as it drifted over the top end of Dovestone valley for a few seconds when both birds were mobbed by a Peregrine. The second bird dropped back into the valley and out of view and the first bird returned back to its usual area showing really well. It also landed on the ground for a few seconds. Lifer for me!

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3 Red Grouse
1 Kestrel

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Pm
Rough-legged Buzzards -2 juv both still in area by white bags above Binn Green up to 15.00,one mainly sticking to the valley to the south and the other more mobile.
Merlin-1 fem seen twice
Raven-1
Kestrel-2
Peregrine-1
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1-2pm today
Rough legged Buzzard affording excellent views from the "white sacks" lay-by. Gliding around above the moor and reservoir often hovering for minutes at a time.
Thanks to those who found the bird and previous posts for the excellent directions

Cheers Mike

-- Edited by munsworth on Sunday 2nd of November 2014 03:26:10 PM

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