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RE: Alexandra Park, Whalley Range


In my opinion the bird on the Alexandra Park Lake is a new bird to the pinioned female Spot-billed Duck that was present on Fog Lane Park Lake (see photo), but could perhaps be a result of the Fog Lane Park bird pairing with a Mallard ?? We really do get some funny ducks floating around the Manchester area!

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The drake Spot-billed Duck "type" still present this morning, I spent some time watching, photographing and filming this educational bird! My opinion is that it has some Mallard influence (the head pattern, green sheen to the crown and rufous tones on the breast), it is un-ringed and probably fully-winged (see open wing photo)

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Steve Suttill wrote:

Pete Hines wrote:

/>Indian Spot-billed Duck 1m





Indian Spot-billed Duck/Mallard hydrid?



I did consider the hybrid possibility due to apparent speculum colour. Chinese Spot-billed Duck (Anas zonorhyncha) has a blue speculum though lacks the red at the bill base etc. Structure is sound for Spotbill. I assume this is the same as the Fog Lane Park bird which apparently also showed a blue speculum.

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Pete Hines wrote:

/>Indian Spot-billed Duck 1m





Indian Spot-billed Duck/Mallard hydrid?

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Chiffchaff 1+
Great Spotted Woodpecker 1f
Nuthatch 2+
Common Gull 1 1st summer
Herring Gull 1 1st summer
Tufted Duck 3f
Indian Spot-billed Duck 1m

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Thanks, Rob. Interesting. It wasn't there at 2 today.


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Hi Copland,
I'm certainly no expert but since you've asked for any ideas and for what it's worth...

I think the smallish bill doesn't really look like Snow Goose, or Canada Goose for that matter, the plumage doesn't look like Canada either. In my opinion it seems to more closely resemble the bill of an Emperor Goose, and at a push...the whole head looks Emperor-ish too.
The yellow could also be explained by Emperor and look closely at the base of the neck, a beautiful scaly pattern that 'could' be down to Emperor.
One last thing, on Google images, type in Emperor Goose hybrid and your first couple of images could provide some help to possible identification with an Emperor x Barnacle Goose hybrid that looks fairly close to yours. smile

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Amongst the usual Canada Geese on the lake, there is a ringed hybrid goose, found on Thursday by Tony O'Mahoney. It is there again today. Maybe a Martinmere bird? Possible Snow x Canada, or Snow x Barnacle. The yellow on beak and legs doesn't seem to be on the Snow-Canadas I've looked up. Any ideas welcome.


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5 shoveler on the frozen lake - 3m 2 f


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In the middle of a picturesque but desolate, snowbound Alex Park, 2 pairs of Shoveler are busy circling.


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11am
No Shoveler, Merganser or Goosander.
The usual Mute Swans, Canada Geese, Mallard, Tufted Duck, Coot, Moorhen.
1 Common Gull spotted amongst the Blackheaded.

2 pairs of Heron. One sitting in the south nest. 2 building in the north nest.

Nuthatches seen and heard. Goldcrests.


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Midday

Shoveler 1
Tufted Duck 40

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Same as Pete yesterday, but without the Shoveler. One Heron on the nest, another below on the island. Goldcrests and Nuthatches very active. Parakeets over.


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12.45-13.05

Goosander 1 female
Shoveler 1 male
Tufted Duck 37
Lesser Black-backed Gull 2

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Goosander pair
Tufted Duck 41
Shoveler 1 drake
Grey Heron pair at nest
Common Gull 4
Lesser Black-backed Gull 1
Carrion Crow 47

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Shoveler 2 drake

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Dawn today
shoveler 2m 1juv m
Buzzard over flying north
Ringnecked parakeets. 2 flocks (23 & 15 AT LEAST) flew west of south at sunrise. Direction of Southern Cem & Chorlton WP


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pair of Shoveler on lake 10:50 today. still no Mergus

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10:35
Still no sawbills


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09.35

Carrion Crow 47

No sawbills

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10:53 am Alexandra Park "lake"

1 Goosander redhead - flew East at 11:02
No RB Merganser
2 Heron


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Return of the Mergi.

11:40
Redbreasted Merganser 1
Goosander redhead 1


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No sawbills whilst I was here today from just gone 9 to just before 12, either. What there was:

8+ goldcrest
3 nuthatch
1 grey wagtail
3 song thrush
25+ redwing
11 mistle thrush
5 ring-necked parakeet
6 moorhen
8 coot
7 tufted duck
4 mute swan (3 adults all with blue darvics: 4CUN, 4BUT, 4CLX)
1 grey heron
83+ black-headed gull
2 common gull
1 lesser black-backed gull


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Copland Smith wrote:

Yesterday (Friday 24)
12:40
4 Goosander (all redhead)
1 Redbreasted Merganser

12:10 today
No Mergus at all!
2 Heron (1 in each bay, steeple-stemmed)





I made two visits here this morning plus one to Platt Fields Park, no Mergus species at either, they must be somewhere.

1 Herring Gull yesterday

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Yesterday (Friday 24)
12:40
4 Goosander (all redhead)
1 Redbreasted Merganser

12:10 today
No Mergus at all!
2 Heron (1 in each bay, steeple-stemmed)


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Red-breasted Merganser still present mid-afternoon

-- Edited by James Walsh on Friday 24th of November 2017 09:29:29 PM

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Just before 1100 2 male Goosanders came in, flew around the lake, then were lost to sight but they didn't land.
Soon after 1 of the Goosander females departed east.
The other female Goosander and Red-breasted Merganser remained.

I assume the Merganser is a female with it's bright red bill?

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Red-breasted Merganser 1
Goosander 2
Great Spotted Woodpecker 3 together

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5 Goosander (1 out of water on S bank)
1 Redbreasted Merganser

Redwings, Mistle thrushes & Blackbirds vey active

12:10 today


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12:45-13:00
1 red-breasted merganser
5 goosanders
11 tufted ducks
1 grey wagtail

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09.10-09.25

Red-breasted Merganser 1
Goosander 6 (5 redhead)

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09.05-09.50

Red-breasted Merganser still present
Goosander 4 redhead
Fieldfare 2+
Ring-necked Parakeet 27+


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Red Breasted Merganser showing well at 1 pm. Diving constantly. Came up with
a reasonably sized fish, promptly dived bombed by 3 Black Headed Gulls,but
managed to swallow it ,thwarting the gulls.

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08.25-09.15

Red-breasted Merganser flew in alone at 09.05
Goosander 3
Cormorant 1
Herring Gull 2
Common Gull 1
Ring-necked Parakeet 62+
Goldcrest 4
Grey Wagtail 2
Redwing - several
Goldfinch 16+

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Think everyone went to see the Red-breasted Merganser today !



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Red-breasted merganser seen briefly this afternoon just before it went dark. It was present with 2 redhead goosanders then flew off to roost.

Also around 43 Ring-necked parakeets in the trees

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Red head Red-breasted Merganser still present at 10.30, Associating with a male and female Goosander.

-- Edited by Mark Burgess on Sunday 19th of November 2017 02:19:12 PM

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Red-breasted Merganser 1 flew in with 2 redhead Goosander at 08.22
Goosander 8
Siskin 1 over

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Red-breasted Merganser 1 still present this morning
Goosander 7
Ring-necked Parakeet c40
Coot - white darvic DZF (presumably ringed here)

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Red breasted Merganser still present up till 14.15 

Nuthatch , ring necked parakeets  large mixed tit flock in trees  

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-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Friday 17th of November 2017 04:49:14 PM

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Red-breasted Merganser still present at 1.20pm
Goosanders now 15

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Friday 17th of November 2017 01:22:47 PM

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Red-breasted Merganser 1 still
Goosander 13

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Really nice comparison photos there :)



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Red-breasted Merganser 1. It took flight with 7 Goosander at 16.06 but split from the group as the others headed off south-east, circled the lake before heading south-west, back towards Platt Fields.

Goosander 13. First one at 16.02 then 7 at 16.06 flew south-east, presumably to roost at Broad Ees Dole, leaving 5 remaining at 16.20

Ring-necked Parakeet 66 at 16.20





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Red-breasted Merganser 1. It took flight with 7 Goosander at 16.06 but split from the group as the others headed off south-east, circled the lake before heading south-west, back towards Platt Fields.

Goosander 13. First one at 16.02 then 7 at 16.06 flew south-east, presumably to roost at Broad Ees Dole, leaving 5 remaining at 16.20

Ring-necked Parakeet 66 at 16.20

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Red-breasted Merganser 1 ( relocated from Platt Fields Park) Goosander 12

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11am Today at the lake:

10 Goosander present, including 4 adult males

4 Mute swan including 1 1st winter

14 Canada goose

23 Mallard
5 Tufted duck

6 Coot
7 Moorhen

54 Blackheaded gull (plus 35 on the football field, making 89)

1 Grey heron

1 Grey wagtail

plus Ringnecked parakeets over.


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Goosander 10 early afternoon
Treecreeper 1

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Goosander 12 at 13.00 yesterday

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12/11/17, 16:20

Naked eye observation as I came out of the café - c10 ring-necked parakeets flew into the park (to roost?)

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Goosander 7

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