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Yeah, I spotted the workmen from the museum, hoped Judith or someone would be onto it.

Saw one of the adults make a kill (pigeon) over towards Morrison's later in the day. First time I've seen it, very impressive sight. Unfortunately I was about the only person of all the shoppers, people heading home, kids on the skatepark etc that paid any attention.

The BH Gulls were what drew my attention, they were making a real racket.

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I have asked my town hall contact to sort this out. There is ongoing work on the masonry which will take many months but they are not supposed to be near the Peregrines. It's illegal.

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Had my first opportunity to see the birds this morning. Quite a spectacle as 2 men were working on the Town Hall roof and the female was going ballistic. She was circling the tower and attempting to hover over where the men were. The noise was unbelievable and could be heard on Deansgate. Dozens of people were stood watching. It makes a change from Manchester where people go about their business oblivious to the birds above them.

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All 3 juvs were sitting in a row yesterday, and have not fledged yet. Apparently they can walk alll the way round the base of the dome. (Info from Anthony Bremner, the BMBC staff member involved with them)

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If they've fledged it must have been this afternoon. There was activity at dinner time(1pm) i was watching from work, so not that close, but there where deffinately birds on the clock. One adult was flying around, could've been encouraging them to fly.

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No sign of any young on the town hall or parish church, presume(hope) they have fledged.

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All three chicks seem ok but sleepy at lunchtime today ,one adult bird was sitting nearby.

cheers geoffbiggrin.gif

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All three chicks still doing well, being fed when me and Melanie popped up this afternoon and the second adult sat a metre from the top.

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Great news,there are three chicks in the nest,I saw them being fed this morning at 9.oo
there may be four ,but its a difficult site to view,even harder to photograph but some one with a really big lens might have a go.

cheers geoffbiggrin.gifis english my first languageconfuse.gif

-- Edited by Geoff Hargreaves on Monday 4th of May 2009 11:51:38 AM

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Whent for a look this morning,cracking male sut sunning himself and preening for half an hour untill the females calls roused him to the nest, after a quick conflab the male shot off hunting.i took a few photos which i.ve sent to ian mck.I,ll have to go back when there due to fledge.

cheers geoff great big grin,great big grin

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All our trays have plenty of drainage holes and the pebbles in it are just a little bigger so they don't fall out. It's exactly like the Manchester tray which is successful year in year out. They are just awkward.

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The female didn't appear to have much room the nest,but is it possible the tray has water in,and that's why they won't use it or is the nest more natural??

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I was on the market place car park roof yesterday afternoon and felt something was odd.
The female flew onto the spot where the Ravens nest was and seemed to stay put while the male sat nearby. It was so misty and hazy that i couldn't get a clear view through the scope, could only make out the white on the face. I assumed there was a prey item next to the bird but i wasn't totally convinced. Didn't have time to go into town and have a closer look.
Seems a more precarious site than the tray.

Thanks for the info Simon and Judithsmile.gif

Cheers Dean.

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Visited with Melanie this morning. Some developments to report. No activity at the tray because they seem to be using the old ravens nest above, female sat low on it being visited regularly by the male, can only assume sitting on eggs. Rather suprised to see them on the raven's nest rather than on the tray. Also a third Peregrine flying around, quite possibly a young female from last year.

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Both birds on the clock tower at 12.30 feeding. No activity at the tray.

Dean.

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Only seen one bird in the last few days. After reading Adrian's post about the Manchester birds having eggs.I suppose the female could already be sitting. I'll try and get a closer look in the next few days.

Dean.

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Just the one bird seen at lunchtime today. Soaring over the church in the sunshine. Splendidbiggrin.gif

Dean.

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Both birds high over the town centre this lunchtime.

Dean

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4pm Peregrine sat above the clock on Town Hall. Watched to see if it was affected by the clock chimes. Answer - no

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Thanks to Stuart and to Dean for your advice; much appreciated.
I used to work in Bolton (on Deansgate), but it was a little while ago, 1960 -1964,
so I suspect one or two things may have changed!
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mike P

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There is roadside parking on the cresent behind the town hall. Also roadside parking right next to the parish church, both time limited and pay and display. Or just park on any of the car parks and head for the town hall.

I would recomend going to the roof level of the Market Place multi story, access from Bridge st. Great view of the clock tower and church. From here you look over the town centre and can see the birds in action. You'll need a scope to get decent views on the clock tower but great for fly over and hunting views.

Hope this helps.
Cheers Dean.


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when i went there the parking is available right behind the town hall but beware traffic wardens were in abundance excellent veiws right on one of the corners of the clock tower best "o" luck

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Never having seen a Peregrine in Gr. Manchester (honestly), I would really like to have a stab at seeing the Bolton ones in the next month or so. What's it like for parking there and what might be a good time of day to try for them please?
(I'd try to work it in with a round trip to Pennington Flash and environs, and the mosses for Corn Buntings as well).
In view of what I see mentioned on the pages here re Pennington and dog walkers, I'd avoid a weekend trip.
Any info welcomed.
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Mike P

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Posted by Stuart Herring today:

excellent views of female preening this lunchtime on top of town hall


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Crackin view of the male at dinner time today. Flew low over my works and everyone who goes outside after lunch got a great view. Genuine interest from everyone(big grin emo)

Cheers Dean.

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A single Peregrine dining on a recently killed Feral Pigeon on the Parish Church at 10am today.

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Just the one on the church this morning.

According to the local rag web cams could be placed on the clock tower but they'll have to be quick!! Knowing Bolton council, we might just get them in time for next year. Would be nice though as the cameras would be very close to the nest. Hope it happens.

Cheers Dean.

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Both adults giving a good arial display around the parish church this afternoon.

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Peregrines mating on town hall clock lunchtime today.

Dean.

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Thanks Judith!

Ravens have also been known to drive Peregrines from nesting places - I hope both nest close by though.
What about the Ravens - what are they feeding on? I know they are omnivores and have been recorded eating allsorts of things, some very very unpleasant and not talking about carrion too.
They are generally shy birds and I dont see them coming down to the ground and feeding on scraps like pigeons do.

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Saw both birds on the church yesterday and there has been a Raven around but only seen the one.

My dinner breaks are starting to get betterbiggrin.gif Should be displaying soonwink.gif

Dean.

-- Edited by Dean Macdonald at 22:18, 2009-02-11

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Ravens - no, they may have been an immature pair practising (they don't breed till about 4yrs old) but the Peregrines saw them off anyway. Still around I believe so they'll have to do it all over again.
What do they eat - a wide variety of prey but mostly Feral Pigeons. A Woodcock was amongst the remains we found recently.

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2 birds on Parish church today 1.45p.m.
Cheers Ian

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did the ravens manage to breed successfully in bolton town centre?

does anyone have any idea what both the ravens and peregrines fed on?

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2 birds on Parish church 3pm (info from Phil Rhodes), probably not going far in this snowfall!

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Adult on parish church at lunchtime.

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Peregrine on the parish church this lunchtime. Looked like a juv. Flew off before i got a decent look.

Dean.

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Peregrine in flight round Parish Church at 2-15 pm

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Peregrine on Parish Church 12.30pm eating prey.

Info from my Dad whilst Christmas Shopping.smile.gif

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Peregrine on the parish church lunchtime todaybiggrin.gif

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One Peregrine on clock tower of Town Hall at 11.55am today

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Peregrine on parish church this afternoon.

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Made my first visit Sunday afternoon. Car park closed but great views from by the Town Hall. By late afternoon the sun is behind you, and car parking is free.

I used the flat areas by the top of the stairs on the curved building oposite which had several benefits, not least that the few passers by were below me and oblivious to my presence.

Superb views of both birds, the male frantically plucking a prey item, then a food pass, lots of calling and a few good flight views.

Managed to digiscope some reasonable shots that I'll pass on to Ian.

A big thanks to Adrian D and Paul C for suggesting a visit - well worthwhile.

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Many thanks Dean and Paul for your quick and helpful replies. I will probably make the journey just to see them. My ability to take any decent and sharp birds in flight shots is pretty pathetic and standing in the square with camera, lens and tripod is, as you say, just asking for trouble on a Saturday. Thanks again.

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Jon, I think the town hall square is the best place to get photos. The only draw back is you're looking up. I was there around 12 till 2 pm today and the sun was directly over the clock. If you avoid the middle of the day you should be ok. From the car park the nest is too far away for a 500mm lens but like Paul said, a good chance of fly overs.

Also, be prepared for the public. It's big news at the moment. I found most people to be curious and friendly but expect the odd ****head, especially on a saturday.

Cheers Dean.

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no worries dean i saw a spark of recognition in your eyes but knew you were trying to place me!

jon - i doubt the nest box side of the building would get any usable sunlight and it's way beyond a 500mm, but you could get lucky with fly overs - i had 2 or 3 in the couple of hours i was up there

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I would be very grateful for some advice. I would love to get some decent photographs of the peregrines - there is supposed to be some sun about tomorrow. From the top of the car park, at what time of day is the sun at the right angle and would a 300mm or 500mm lens get me fairly close? Thanks.

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Thought is was you Paul, nice to meet you again. Afraid it takes me a couple of sightings to recognise people properlywink.gif

Dean.

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nice to catch up there on your home turf dean!

cracking flight views just after you left - male overhead filling my bins.

saw some spectacular stoops but no strikes. female brought in a bird, stripped it of lots of feathers had a small snack on it then stashed it behind the vase things where the ravens nest is - a couple of hours later the male returned empty clawed and began eating it!

good views of all 3 chicks on and off, including some wing flexing.

great to meet steve astley up there too, and almost forgot, ian chisnel (sp).

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Just spent a couple of hours on the car park roof and on the town hall square.
Superb viewingbiggrin.gif
Watched the birds hunt then pluck the prey before feeding the young. Drew quite a crowd on the square while taking pictures. Most people are fascinated with the birds.

I agree with simon, don't think there are many better views of nesting Peregrines.
Get yourselves down theresmile.gif

Cheers Dean.

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