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RE: THE GREATER MANCHESTER 200 CLUB.


Well still 18 to go for me with one possible in the Rarities Committee pipeline - like waiting for a a car in the Soviet Union

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An away from the club and out of county is planned for this weekend the 15th September 2012 at Rostherne Mere, there is an open day to celebrate its 50 years, tea and cakes guided walks, should be very pleasant
10-4 all welcome.



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Ah wellIf I ever get to 199 I,ll keep a sitter in reserve so the BOU can fester in their own indecision,

cheers geoff

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Andy Bissitt wrote:

Geoff Hargreaves wrote:

Well i,ll ask is American Black Tern a 200 club tick or do I have to leave a blank space on my gravestone waiting of someone to make their mind up

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I don't imagine that anyone breeds/keeps American Black Terns on this side of the Atlantic, unlike all the U.S. ducks that have made it onto people's lists, so why not?




Geoff's stonemason is presumably waiting for taxonomists to analyse the mDNA of what is currently classed as a race of Black Tern, rather than the decision of the BBRC on whether to accept the record of this smart bird

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As far as Manchester Birding lists go I'm afraid you'll have to wait until the powers that be make their minds up Geoff as American Black Tern is currently treated as a race of Black Tern by the BOU

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Geoff Hargreaves wrote:

Well i,ll ask is American Black Tern a 200 club tick or do I have to leave a blank space on my gravestone waiting of someone to make their mind up

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I don't imagine that anyone breeds/keeps American Black Terns on this side of the Atlantic, unlike all the U.S. ducks that have made it onto people's lists, so why not?

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Well i,ll ask is American Black Tern a 200 club tick or do I have to leave a blank space on my gravestone waiting of someone to make their mind up

cheers geoff

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What an excellent turn out today at Pennington Flash, the shores of the flash were littered with Club members Gm Birders and waifs and strays from other counties as well, excellent bird well done to the finders.



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Can't give you an answer, Paul, but it seems significant that the American Audubon Society uses a circle of the same radius for its Christmas Bird Counts.

30 Miles (15 there and 15 back) was a gentle evening stroll for a Victorian naturalist, after a day's work at t'mill. We're a bunch of wimps these days

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In the 1959 MOS bird report the recording area was a 15 mile radius from the town hall, it does not say who? or why ? 15 miles was chosen,

The only reference I can find that helps is in Country Rambles and Manchester walks and wild flowers by Leo H.Grindon ( 1882) which says taking the area which would be marked out by measuring a circle round the Exchange, fifteen miles from it in every direction, six hundred different species were catalogued in 1840,

I believe this was taken from the Flora Mancuniensis ,

So why 15 miles ?

sorry if i have asked this before, I have no record of any answer.

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Mr Passent, I did indeed sell my soul to the devil in 2008, it was the only way I could reach my target for the year list attempt.

As for my looks ! Ian used a photograph of me in the meet the manky birders article

As spring approaches I can feel the hordes of migrant birds just waiting to pass over our borders, and these without a doubt will increase your GM list, as well as your fuel bill.

I hold you in the highest esteem in your attempts to gain membership to the GM 200 Club, and wish you all the success you deserve, as for your advise on finding Hawfinches recently that was inspirational.

If you find yourself staying overnight in GM , I will stand you a glass of mead in the clubhouse.

Have no fear, and enjoy your journey

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Dear Mr. Heaton,

Never having met you, (though I have it on good authority from those who have, that you are exceedingly handsome and a fellow of considerable charm), it crossed my mind to make enquiries about you; - though not without a slight degree of trepidation.
Could it be said of you that you resemble (even to a minuscule degree) either Bela Lugosi, or Christopher Lee?
Both these well known and most distinguished film actors have famously played the part of Count Dracula at one time or another, and of course as vampires, could be literally said to deliver the"kiss of death" to their respective victims, normally beautiful gullible young ladies, suitably beguiled and caught with (at the very least) their guards down and necks invitingly exposed.
You very graciously passed congratulatory remarks on September 12th last on my reaching 180 for Greater Manchester. I have not progressed one iota since then in the ensuing 6 months (well it will be 6 months in the morning), and I fear you have delivered a kiss of death of sorts.
Please reassure me that you are not sir, in league with "dark forces", that I might renew my quest and get amongst next month's influx of hoards of rare migrants in full heart and without qualms.

Worried of Wolsingham

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After a nice tip off from a very kind birder, I was able today to complete the Manchester bird report collection, after finally obtaining the very hard to find 1964/1971 mos reports.

The 200 Club now has a full perfect copy of bird reports from 1959 to date.

Thank you to all that have helped.

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Well done to Pete Berry, is there no stopping this outstanding lister, the man is going for the solo 250 Club, but will he be the only one... no Mr Rob Adderley the man of the White-billed Diver fame is keeping him firm in his sights.

Top listing Gentlemen, the committee doff their caps to you both, and say a hearty cheer to Mrs Adderley as well.

keep it up.

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A Happy New Year to one and all, good luck and best wishes with your birding for 2012.


Great Grey shrike would be an acceptable bird for 2012.

Keep Birding.

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These cold nights find me reading old favourites, the following extract made me smile,

DECEMBER 11th 1936
I visited a large mere, which I have known well all my life,and,among a great horde of teal,spotted a gadwall, a duck I had never seen there before,nor,so far as I know,has anyone else.
A couple of months ago I wrote of one that had been shot on the Lancashire coast,where the birds is a rare as it is in Cheshire. Not long ago I read in the book of an American naturalist that "infatuation with the rare is the mark of limited understanding" quite true,But the accumulation of records of the unusual ( such as these two gadwall) may lead us to alter our ideas of rarity, and perhaps call attention to a change of status or distribution in its early stages.

an extract from The Country diary of a Cheshire Man A.W.BOYD.



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Silvio, (my Italian penfriend), now that he's retired as PM, has given me some useful tips on how to look younger. I'm trying various experiments, though unlike him, I'm avoiding any embalming enhancements.
Once I've perfected a suitable makeup strategy, I may pluck up sufficient courage to twitch Cetti's Warbler without risk of being ridiculed, (after all without some artificial enhancement, I'm not even as handsome as Rayner).

(On second thoughts, I might just get down there and pretend to be a foreigner).



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I wouldn't worry Riggers.

He'll have forgotten the next time he sees you anyway.

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Thanks very much Mr.Suttill.

There was a very good chance that Mr.Rayner had forgotten about said photo given his age and all!

And you had to go and remind him!


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In defence of Mr.Rigby I should point out that his photos, like everyone else's are not captioned by the photographers but by someone else. They just provide the images and have nothing to do with the evil, slanderous comments that accompany them

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I think this means Mark Rigby has a couple of options:

either recaption that photo of "Britain's Oldest Birder", or don't bother with any rarity submissions for a while

Steve

on behalf of BOB - Bearded Old Birders (Greater Manchester branch)

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Congratulations to Mr John Raynor on his newly appointed position on the County rarities committee, well done that man, another membership to a distinguished club.



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Pager message today for the scillies,today read,

Pom Skua St Agnes from the Turks head, now that what I call proper birding, roll on next week, I will be there:big grin: to man the turks head bird observatory.

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Mr Wilson, the 200 Club will always recognise any young persons attempt, and as such the award, member of the junior 100 club can be award to Toni:big grin:



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Paul Heaton wrote:

Mike Passant hit One Hundred and Eighty this weekend what a number, and I believe he twitches Manchester, just for his list, what dedication, we take our hats off to you sir!



Sue's daughter Toni managed to hit the halfway mark of 100 with the Grey Phalarope at Pennington. She is however, only 13 and only gets to go out if we take her for something we haven't seen before!

Her list of 100 is a very strange one though as it already includes things like Grey Phalarope, GN Diver, Pied-billed Grebe, Marsh Harrier, Pectoral Sandpiper, Spotted Redshank, Wood Sandpiper, Little Tern, Barn Owl, SE Owl, LE Owl, Waxwing, and of course Firecrest!

We really need to take her round the county to pick up some common stuff!



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Mike Passant hit One Hundred and Eighty this weekend what a number, and I believe he twitches Manchester, just for his list, what dedication, we take our hats off to you sir!

Well done only 20 to go, if its a good Autumn you could be in for Christmas

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I got up good 'n' early to find my boots still soaked from yesterday. I have lain on an east coast beach in the middle of winter with the cold north sea soaking into my shirt... but I will not go out with my boots wet!



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Well Gentleman and ladies, the club is full today, lots of members coming in out of the rain, bloody miserable out there today, still migration time and this weather may bring something in!

The Library has been busy today lots of interest in Wildfowl, Steve Madge and Hilary Burn, and lots of photocopying of pages 43 44 45 and 46 of Bird identification Alan Harris, Laurel Tucker and Keith Vinicombe, but I had to go down into the vaults to find a dusty copy of a 1920,s tome entitled Studies on Hybrid ducks by Hubert Dana Goodale, I wonder whats going on out there:big grin:

As soon as my coat drys out, I will be back out there birding, till then keep swotting up.



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A double this month sees,

Colin Moran 209 excellent
Karen Foulkes 200 after weeks of stalking Quail.

Welcome to the club.

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Welcome Mr Andy Makin, and what a way to come in!!!!

Straight in with 233, you dark horse, but the lure of membership to the club was to much, I think?

You must have been bored watching these Avocets, to finally count up your GM list. now how many others are out there.

Well done that man of the moors.

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Thank you very much Mr Heaton - I shall look forward to the benefits of membership wink.gif

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Mr Johnson Spotted Redshank gets you full membership to the club, well done that birder.

Another 200 lister for GMbiggrin.gif

Keep Birding.



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The 200 club -- A personal slant.

I find it fascinating and quite fun to see how various participants progress and enjoy their listing in Gr. Manchester (be it year listing, site listing, borough listing, or G.M. listing). As I see it, the spin off benefit is that it probably gets more birders out in the field more often and covering more places than otherwise might possibly be the case.

Certainly when I am able to get down to Greater Manchester, it is always with a degree of excitement in the expectation that as there are so many species for me to catch up with, I can generally make some progress of sorts either to my very modest site lists and/or several borough lists I have started to maintain.
It helps to come down from Durham preferably at different seasons and also to try to coordinate visits with the occurrence of potential GM lifers, (which in a perfect world would all turn up in 3's and 4's and stick around for 3 days !).
I have no expectation of ever gaining membership of the 200 club however, (distance, time, expense, and the limits of marital forbearance will doubtless mitigate against that). However, one is free to dream, and if I can achieve 175 this year, then that will be for me a pretty creditable mark.

Accepting that there are "closet" 200 club members not in the list table, I was curious to see who of those listed have been the main "movers and shakers" in 10 months since I last made a note of how the table stood from an arbitrary starting date (which happens to be May 5th 2010).

Of those already in the select club I found the following:

May 5th 2010 March 5th 2011
John Rayner 215 223 + 8
Alan Warford 221 226 + 5
Mark Rigby 210 215 + 5

Of the rest I found :

Iain Johnson 176 194 + 18
Ian Campbell 169 179 + 10
Geoff Hargreaves 168 176 + 8
Tim Wilcox 162 170 + 8

As at May 5th 2010 there were 16 listed 200 club members, 10 months later there were 20, (3 having gained promotion, and one having joined from the "closet" ranks).
As for my own obsession, it's all the fault of three individuals, (Rayner, McKerchar, and a certain Audenshaw Purple Sandpiper!)

Regards,
Mike P.


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I do believe that Mr Ian Reynolds and his brother Gary will be made Honorary members of the 200 Club, for their excellent contribution to the sightings of Greater Manchester.

I have always said that once I had seen Wallcreeper and Siberian Rubythroat in the UK, I would give up twitching,however I may now add Dusky Thrush to that list.

The news and the photographs are just stunning, what a find.....and to think this record may have been lost, had they not sought conformation of its identity

It also goes to show anything is possible. I have mixed emotions about this bird, had the new come from Norfolk or Cornwall, I would have just thought lucky buggers, but the fact that it was in our own back garden of Manchester is mind blowing.

Is there a need to travel well...yes...but imagine been out of county and getting the newswink.gif

A tremendous account of immense important to record keepers and birders throughout the land, Gentlemen the 200 Club salutes you.


Enjoy your plane spotting but keep bird spotting as well.

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Well Gentlemen and ladies, the year comes to an end. It has had its ups and downs, but thats life.

The tournament ends with an amazing third win for Ian McKerchar, and what a tournament it has been, filled with fantastic birds, and amazing numbers . The top 3 all deserve a pat on the back, as for the trophy it will be present to Ian in the new year.

Hope 2011 brings the birds to you.

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Thanks guys and dead right Paul- Over the moon with such a memorable bird to qualify for membership and well worth the wait.
Looking forward to getting the club blazer and key to the members washroom!
Steve

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Well done Steve!!!

Dave

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Mr Collins what a way to enter The 200 Club, a GM mega, confirmed by our very own Mr Mc Kerchar, well done that man.


Enjoy you membership you have earnt it.


Keep birdingbiggrin.gif


Keep an eye on Mr Berry seems he is going for the 250 Club very elite position.

-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Wednesday 10th of November 2010 04:39:48 PM

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Simon Warford wrote:

Paul Wilson wrote:

Anyone up for an evening out in the usual pub soon? My 50th is coming up near t'end of this month (26th) and wondered if anyone fancies helping me get over it!






Yes Paul, count me in, as its your "party" you can choose the venue.
Look forward to you gettin the beers inwink.gif




me too, ages since l got silly drunk wink.gif

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Thanks Paul and Steve - now wondering if it's possible to get into the GM250 or the Rochdale200 club before I die - and as for the Hollingworth Lake 200 club I guess I can dream!



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I know, I know!! This is worse than waiting for one number at bingo!
Well done Simon- glad you made it. The one spin off though is I now stand alone at the top of the 100 club! (or the under 200 club depending on the rules!smile.gif)
Cheers
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Sorry Mr Hitchen, missed your 200.

Simon Hitchen, bags Wood Sandpiper and gets his 200 bird for Gm, well done that man.

The Club welcomes you and wishes you all the best in your next target.

Keep Birding.


ps, come on Mr Collins, only 1 to gobiggrin.gif

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I only wish I could Mark!

Still, at least I'm not the only person not to read all posts. My GM Atlas section post on Wren was only read by 39 people. Perhaps the other 609 forum members are trying to tell me something yawn.gif

Still even Bill Myerscough's post on Song Thrush was only read by 46 people. Bill's off the wall humour always brings a smile to my face. Perhaps one day he'll publish them all in a book Memoirs of a Forum Contributor!

You've done it again Mark. Started off another discussion on this thread and I've fallen into the trap of replying to it. biggrin.gif

Good luck with the year listing. Only 4 months and 23 days to go. bleh.gif

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I'm probably not the only person who doesn't have the time to read every post on this forum and had completely missed the discussion about the tournament, until someone drew it to my attention.





Shame on you Steve, find time!biggrin.gif

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Thanks Paul,

I certainly would not wish you to close down this thread on my account. The GM 200 club, fictitious or otherwise, is perfectly entitled to have its own thread.

Perhaps I didn't get my message across very clearly. I was just questioning why a discussion about the Manchester Tournament is taking place on this thread. I'm probably not the only person who doesn't have the time to read every post on this forum and had completely missed the discussion about the tournament, until someone drew it to my attention.

A lot of the tournament participants are not members of the 200 Club, so I just think it would be better in future for any discussion about the tournament to be held on a separate thread.

As for my GM list, I've never sat down and worked it out. That will have to wait until after the Atlas has finished. You know that I do most of my birding at Watergrove and around Rochdale which is why my borough and site lists are on the website.

Cheers

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Mr Thrope, it has been noted your 177 county life list has not been updated for some time, and we all twitchwink.gif

Steve the doors will remain open, I hope enough to let you in.

Lets just be proud to be a GM Birders, with a top website, I would not move anywhere else..

Well maybe Norfolk or Cornwall, or the Scillies, perhaps Spurn, or anywhere on the East coast, or Wales, oh Scotlands good as well, biggrin.gif


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The tournament is perfect as it is... Equal to all!
As for the 200 club... The reason I don't twitch. wink.gif

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Close!!!!! You can't close the 200 club- I'm on 199!!! Got my suit ready for the graduation ball!
As for the tournament, speaking as the one supporting the rest of you with 1 point,
I have no problem with the format. I dream of the big find! In fact, had I got out of work an hour earler all them godwit points would have bee mine! I was there that early evening looking for the barn owl at dover Basin and would have stolen the points!
So its all possible- throw your hat in the ring and winner takes all!
Steve (Genioglossus extending laterally towards the buccinatorbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif)

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Steve, you are always welcome to post on this thread, as for been a member, I don't see your list, but I am sure its healthy, The club! been a complete figment of its members imagination, hold Mr McKerchar is the highest regard, he is an honorary member and has his own suite.

The Gm Website and it's boss are very, very safe, I hope he will remain in place for a long time, the idea regarding the tournament was really to generate a proper discussion on how to tweak it, adapt it, maybe change a couple of birds or add a few.

Ian had maintained a perfect tournament for us all, it was just a thought that perhaps we could see a new format for next year, what do you think yes or no.

Also reading the 200 club thread, it has caused offence in the past, which was not meant, always one for a laugh to lighten up things, but I am very happy if people would prefer this thread and the 200 club idea to be closed?

It was and is always meant to be a tongue in cheek, mickey take, and should be thought of as just that.

Now off to the library, with a single maltbiggrin.gif

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Not being a member of this illustrious group, I don't normally read this thread and am not sure whether I'm allowed to post on here. biggrin.gif However, another birder, whose identity I shall protect, alerted me to a discussion regarding the Manchester Tournament.

Maybe I've missed something, but I'm mystified as to why the GM 200 Club thread is being used for a discussion about the Tournament. Unless of course the Club are secretly planning a coup d'etat to overthrow the current Tournament boss and rule setter and intend to restrict entrants to the 2011 competition to 200 Club members.

If they do achieve this there would surely be a massive fall in the number of personally found birds and hence overall points total accrued.

Yours (langue dans la joue)wink.gif


Steve

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