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RE: THE GREATER MANCHESTER 200 CLUB.


Craig, Horwich Moors for Red Grouse, almost guaranteed. You do well not to tread on them sometimes!

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Had a Red Grouse up at Binn Green the other week whilst I was there for the Two Barred Crossbill. It was on the cliffs opposite the viewing area for the famous Larches, Someone else spotted it though, but point being...that area of GM ie Mossley, and Stalybridge (as David says) certainly seems a favourable area to get a Red Grouse tick!

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Been up there a few times Alan, including this evening. Heard a couple tonight but still not managed to clap eyes on one of the little monkeys.

Thanks for the tip David. Always good to have options.

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David Walsh wrote:

Craig Higson wrote:

Just checked my list again, and there's one bird I really should be able to get easily - Red Grouse.

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Craig,

Wander around Wild Bank Moor in Stalybridge on any day of the year and you will hear then see a Red Grouse. Then you can head off and concentrate on the three more tricky ticks!

-- Edited by David Walsh on Sunday 25th of May 2014 11:59:04 PM

-- Edited by David Walsh on Monday 26th of May 2014 05:20:29 AM



-- Edited by David Walsh on Monday 26th of May 2014 05:21:00 AM



Think the Horwich/Winter Hill Moors are much closer for you Craig, may take a bit of trecking round but Red Grouse are certainly up there.

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Craig Higson wrote:

Just checked my list again, and there's one bird I really should be able to get easily - Red Grouse.

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Craig,

Wander around Wild Bank Moor in Stalybridge on any day of the year and you will hear then see a Red Grouse. Then you can head off and concentrate on the three more tricky ticks!

-- Edited by David Walsh on Sunday 25th of May 2014 11:59:04 PM

-- Edited by David Walsh on Monday 26th of May 2014 05:20:29 AM



-- Edited by David Walsh on Monday 26th of May 2014 05:21:00 AM

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Just checked my list again, and there's one bird I really should be able to get easily - Red Grouse. I also should, with some effort be able to get Lesser Spotted Woodpecker. Less easy are Wood Warbler and Firecrest but they're usually in the county each year. Get those and I hit the 200 mark.

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Paul Heaton wrote:

Well well,

Gentlemen and ladies, what a lovely day, the club doffs it caps tonight to Mr Brian Fielding, dedicated patch worker, rewarded for his early jaunts around Elton Res, a free drink at the bar tonight Brian

Mr Passant once again we drag you back into the streets and alleyways of Manchester, sorry to have missed you, but the burdens of work, dragged me away.

Mrs Raynor, I hope you were not to upset with John, you have put up with him for 40 years, so forgive him for his lateness, with your flowers and card, this morning, ( wedding anniversary, and he goes out twitching .. hee hee thats brave )

and we all owe a massive thank you to Ian McKerchar, his quick text messages, they are a godsend, to all of us in Manchester, perhaps not so for those that went to Europe yesterday for holidays, I am sure Hungary has some good birds ,Mr Whippersnapper Warford.

Great day for Gm, Nice bird, enjoyed by all, thats hope it stay for the Bank Holiday.

Take care Keep Birding.





So that's where Mr.Warford is? Thought I didn't see him amongst the teeming masses. Two to go for me to pass through the portals and it would've been one if I hadn't only found out about the Spotted Redshank at noon on Weds. Left work in seconds but got there too late...

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Well well,

Gentlemen and ladies, what a lovely day, the club doffs it caps tonight to Mr Brian Fielding, dedicated patch worker, rewarded for his early jaunts around Elton Res, a free drink at the bar tonight Brian

Mr Passant once again we drag you back into the streets and alleyways of Manchester, sorry to have missed you, but the burdens of work, dragged me away.

Mrs Raynor, I hope you were not to upset with John, you have put up with him for 40 years, so forgive him for his lateness, with your flowers and card, this morning, ( wedding anniversary, and he goes out twitching .. hee hee thats brave )

and we all owe a massive thank you to Ian McKerchar, his quick text messages, they are a godsend, to all of us in Manchester, perhaps not so for those that went to Europe yesterday for holidays, I am sure Hungary has some good birds ,Mr Whippersnapper Warford.

Great day for Gm, Nice bird, enjoyed by all, thats hope it stay for the Bank Holiday.

Take care Keep Birding.

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I'm guessing there's a few if us moved one closer today?

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Ian McKerchar wrote:

If you need any help with the excel file though or any aspect of recording, the assistance from wither myself or Steve still stands wink

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Thursday 2nd of January 2014 03:37:59 PM





Thanks Ian!

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Hi Geoff, I fully appreciate that the 200 club is purely for fun on the site. I don't expect to get anywhere near that but I just wanted a list from which I could go from, which I have now found. I have a few ID books and an AtoZ so I'm nearly good to go! I'm already slightly addicted and haven't even got to the recording stage yet so I am slightly worried about what will become of me!! haha! I'm forever looking in every direction when I'm out and about, which the missus doesn't appreciate, especially when doing 70mph down the M62!!

For the sake of the birds and to keep track on what our county homes and welcomes, I think all you guys on the site do an amazing job!


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Matt,please take note of Ian,s points (he is the boss after all).Aside from the essential work of recording our sightings a few of us have submitted a county list which Ian maintains on the main web site,this gave rise to the 200 club.As Ian says it,s fictional and as such has very few rules,but there,s no harm in aiming to see as many species within the county.

You might find the following helpful,a good read through the main web site to discover what,s considered 'wild' 'feral' 'dubious' or downright dodgy

An upto date collins handbook to help with I.D.,you,ll need a good A to Z to sort out any border disputes,a couple of county reports which list all the regular haunts.The GM text alert is also a must have. After that It,s up to you it,s your list but for a life list you will have to see the bird and make sure it,s in GM.Please be aware it,s very addictive and most of us are or have been in therapy during the dark winter months.

 

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If you need any help with the excel file though or any aspect of recording, the assistance from wither myself or Steve still stands wink

-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Thursday 2nd of January 2014 03:37:59 PM

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Thanks for the quick response, Ian!

Following your message, I've successfully gathered all the necessary information. I've downloaded the Excel sheet so I now have no excuses but to get in the car/on the bike and get twitching! May have to pay the Glossy Ibis a visit tomorrow, seeing as though I'm off work!

Thanks again and you've got an amazing website here.

Matt

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MJKeating wrote:

Afternoon all and a Happy New Year!

I'm fairly new to birding and a super novice! I just have something inside of me that wants to head out and track down various types of bird. I head to the flashes in Wigan occasionally and also Pennington but I'm wanting to step it up in 2014. I would be grateful if any of you could advise the best way to record a sighting and to prove it's authenticity? Is there a pre-populated list anywhere, are photos required as evidence? As much info as possible would be appreciated as I don't want to start listing them only to find that I hadn't done it correctly!

Thanks everyone!

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Hi Matt, the Greater Manchester Bird Recording Group is the official (and only) recording body in the county and would warmly welcome any of your sightings (note the GM 200 club is a fictional club on this forum smile). Please see the thread 'Greater Manchester Needs Your Sightings' on the sightings section for ways and means of submitting your records to us. There is also other information on the Manchester Birding website including a full list of species seen in the county and what records we require, though in all honesty any and all your records would be welcomed.

If you need any further information at all, or just some clarification, then please don't hesitate to contact myself or Steve Atkins, either by private message on this forum or via email, the contact details of which can be found on the 'Who's Who' page of the Manchester Birding website smile

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Afternoon all and a Happy New Year!

I'm fairly new to birding and a super novice! I just have something inside of me that wants to head out and track down various types of bird. I head to the flashes in Wigan occasionally and also Pennington but I'm wanting to step it up in 2014. I would be grateful if any of you could advise the best way to record a sighting and to prove it's authenticity? Is there a pre-populated list anywhere, are photos required as evidence? As much info as possible would be appreciated as I don't want to start listing them only to find that I hadn't done it correctly!

Thanks everyone!

Matt

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Mike Passant, The 200 Club, will have a gold card for you when you reach the target required for membership, a huge effort is required for out of town folk, to reach 200.

Your efforts and achievements will be reflected in award ceremony.

Have a cool yuletide, and a bird filled 2014, where ever you bird.



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Though perhaps a little premature yet to look back over 2013, (as I have potentially one more day remaining for some birding within Greater Manchester prior to year end), the year does rather seem to be sliding towards an unspectacular close after the excitements of the autumn.
I managed a fairly typical 20 days (or part days) birding somewhere in G M during the year, often just passing through, though several times making successful twitches (as well as several dips) and once (by remarkable fluke) being present coincidentally with three of the Glossy Ibises in Bolton having missed them by some 20 minutes the previous day (when I had turned up anyway totally unaware of their presence).
This stroke of luck meant that I had no grounds for complaint at all and the 8 species added during the course of the year to get my G M list onto 191 included a few harder "less than annual" species. On a more sobering note, there were at various times during the year a total of a further15 species overflying or recorded all too briefly in the county which would have been new (such as Shags, Gannet, Bewicks's Swans, Barnacle Geese, Hen Harrier, Grey Plover, Turtle Dove, Great Grey Shrike, to name but a few, none of which I could have seen due to the travelling time/distance). I should also have made an effort for the Little Stint at Rumworth which with hindsight was a gift which went begging, as well as the overnight Rock Pipit and Kittiwake at Pennington for which regretfully I made no effort.
So I already look forward to 2014 with the intriguing question - Will it be the year in which I reach 200? - I see it as a very tall order; - In fact I felt rather more positive in October with still a couple of months of 2013 remaining, - better now to keep head down and be prepared to keep chipping away and keeping an eye on the sightings threads at critical times;- provided I'm here as well in a position to travel!

Best Wishes to all for a Happy Christmas and a prosperous and exciting 2014!


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Well done Mr Raynor, that's what we like to hear from our members, I find myself in a similar situation, I know of two species that should be on my list, but also know that the notebooks are lost forever, therefore having to wait for the next time the birds turn up .

While we are on this thread, we have received a letter of complaint at the clubhouse from a lady, who seems upset that a recent post began Gentlemen? well what can I say.

I did explain that the post referred to certain birders trying to gain membership, and did not exclude our more than capable female birders.

That said, come on ladies, we do need a few more of you to push the notebooks out and join the 200 Club.

Stay happy on these dark nights. and keep Birding


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So, dear Mr. Rayner, get yourself out into the field, suitably disguised if you prefer, to save possible embarrassment, and make doubly sure of Greylag Goose




Well, Mr Passant, How quickly you forget.

As you have attempted to name and shame let me remind you that you were actually with me on 5th May 2009 at Pennington Flash when my omission was corrected. All 200 club members will be gratified to learn that I hold my GM list sacrosanct and nothing is counted unless it can be verified by a notebook record.smile

Regards, John

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Indeed! If anyone has Grey Lag Goose then please remove it immediately until you have seen a Greylag Goose... no

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I couldn't agree more Mr. Heaton! List integrity needs to be of paramount concern.

So, dear Mr. Rayner, get yourself out into the field, suitably disguised if you prefer, to save possible embarrassment, and make doubly sure of Greylag Goose; - a proper one mind you, (not that tainted stuff at Etherow).

Ank, ank!!!!!

-- Edited by Mike Passant on Thursday 31st of October 2013 04:26:09 PM

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Gentlemen, may I just make a slight observation here, The 200 Club does like to maintain its standards, therefore any birder wishes to become a member, should hold his or her list in high esteem.

So if in hindsight you have missed something easy off your list, I think it would be prudent to go back into the field and see the bird again, just to cement it on your list, lets maintain high standards Gentlemen please .

I must say I am very pleased in a new interest in the club, and the enthusiasm that potential new members are showing.

keep your notebooks clean and carry on birding.













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I seem to recall somebody leaving off Grey Lag Goose a couple of years ago... - forget who it was now though.





I haven't Mike wink

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Added another tick today....so close now I can taste it!





What was that Craig? I added a late tick earlier this year by discovering I'd left off Cormorant



It was Crossbill Tim. Managed to get them, at Walker Fold last Saturday. One of those birds that I just seemed to have missed over the years.

Our house is upside down at the moment due to building works, and I can't get to my pc, but as soon as I do I'll be double checking my list because I'm convinced I have some other easily gettable omissions.

-- Edited by Craig Higson on Tuesday 29th of October 2013 03:00:26 PM

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That's OK Tim, I seem to recall somebody leaving off Grey Lag Goose a couple of years ago... - forget who it was now though.

I'm going through my Greater Manchester list even as I write this, checking it against the full BOU list for the very same reason; - (I'm just into the chats presently, scratching my head over Sib Blue Robin.......? )


...dream on.

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Craig Higson wrote:

Added another tick today....so close now I can taste it!





What was that Craig? I added a late tick earlier this year by discovering I'd left off Cormorant

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Added another tick today....so close now I can taste it!

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Probably not for long Tim. Every time I manage to string two or three decent days birding together something crops up that sees me sidelined for months. I think the two GM ticks in the last two weeks must be the first time that's happened since I started birding!





I don't get sidelined - I've just been lazy! I was adding a new tick about once every 6 months, and then seemed to get stuck on 180 for ages. The last six months, however, has seen me add SIX new ticks!

If only I hadn't been so lazy - Long-tailed Duck, Gannet, RT Diver, Cetti's, Smew, RC Pochard, Quail, W-W Black Tern, Ruff, Iceland Gull, Y-L Gull, LS Woodpecker and Pied Flycatcher (all being easily twitchable during the last two or three years) would have almost got me into the club!



Hmm! Quail? Easily twitchable? I've spent days over the years listening to them taunt me with not a glimpse. This year there's been no sound I know of never mind a sighting. Anyway off next week and battering vile weather should maybe blow in another Leach's Storm Petrel having missed last year's at Penny



As long as its not on Monday or Tuesday!!!!

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Probably not for long Tim. Every time I manage to string two or three decent days birding together something crops up that sees me sidelined for months. I think the two GM ticks in the last two weeks must be the first time that's happened since I started birding!





I don't get sidelined - I've just been lazy! I was adding a new tick about once every 6 months, and then seemed to get stuck on 180 for ages. The last six months, however, has seen me add SIX new ticks!

If only I hadn't been so lazy - Long-tailed Duck, Gannet, RT Diver, Cetti's, Smew, RC Pochard, Quail, W-W Black Tern, Ruff, Iceland Gull, Y-L Gull, LS Woodpecker and Pied Flycatcher (all being easily twitchable during the last two or three years) would have almost got me into the club!



Hmm! Quail? Easily twitchable? I've spent days over the years listening to them taunt me with not a glimpse. This year there's been no sound I know of never mind a sighting. Anyway off next week and battering vile weather should maybe blow in another Leach's Storm Petrel having missed last year's at Penny

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Craig Higson wrote:

Probably not for long Tim. Every time I manage to string two or three decent days birding together something crops up that sees me sidelined for months. I think the two GM ticks in the last two weeks must be the first time that's happened since I started birding!





I don't get sidelined - I've just been lazy! I was adding a new tick about once every 6 months, and then seemed to get stuck on 180 for ages. The last six months, however, has seen me add SIX new ticks!

If only I hadn't been so lazy - Long-tailed Duck, Gannet, RT Diver, Cetti's, Smew, RC Pochard, Quail, W-W Black Tern, Ruff, Iceland Gull, Y-L Gull, LS Woodpecker and Pied Flycatcher (all being easily twitchable during the last two or three years) would have almost got me into the club!

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Probably not for long Tim. Every time I manage to string two or three decent days birding together something crops up that sees me sidelined for months. I think the two GM ticks in the last two weeks must be the first time that's happened since I started birding!

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Craig Higson wrote:

Right -the Glossy Ibis has now left me with just 7 more needed to join the ranks of the 200 club. Bit gutted because this would have been so much less had a few birds hung around this year but a concerted effort this autumn should see me add a few more to take me within striking distance.





We have drawn level as I struggle to stay ahead of Mr. Passant's dedicated pursuit of birds hundreds of miles away from where he lives!

Correction! You're 1 ahead
-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Wednesday 23rd of October 2013 07:51:08 PM

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Wednesday 23rd of October 2013 07:53:51 PM

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The Library needed dusting so I was called in again,on my break I happened to dislodge the 1978 copy of Birds in Greater Manchester,a Great Grey Shrike adorning it,s cover promted me to don the white gloves and dig a little deeper.Oh my 72 to 85 an annual visitor,some of them very long stayers,some wandering over several sites,some reported for 1 day only,but I can only draw a glimmer of hope that the Astley bird is yet to be refound. biggrin

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Right -the Glossy Ibis has now left me with just 7 more needed to join the ranks of the 200 club. Bit gutted because this would have been so much less had a few birds hung around this year but a concerted effort this autumn should see me add a few more to take me within striking distance.

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Dear Mr. Heaton,

In the master's words, "nobody's ranking is safe!"

I suspect you have been undertaking some serious scientific analysis of late, which prompts you to be wary of a certain Mr. Rayner.
Of the established 200 club members, since 05/05/2010 (the base date for my previous measure of progress), the said Mr. Rayner has indeed added the most to his G M list (15 up to 03/10/2013), closely followed by a certain Mr. Rigby on 13 additions.
However Miss K. Foulkes has herself added 13 since joining the elite some 14 months later in July 2011, and is also a clear and present danger, (as possibly is Iain Johnson who surely has undeclared "goodies" hidden up his sleeves?)

Of the waiters, valet parkers and cloakroom attendents, Ian Campbell added 34 species in the 41 months from 05/05/2010 to reach 203, and in September left the lower ranks to became the most recent to gain membership of the club at the time of writing this.

In May 2010 there were I recall 16 declared 200 club members, since when, some have come out of the closet, 2 have withdrawn their lists, leaving presently 23 in the honourable company.

Does the clubhouse need an extension yet to the dining hall? (-As several noted big eaters plan to gatecrash you lot next year).



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Dear John, yes we are truly driven and dedicated, however we are also as mad as hatters.

Have no worry regarding your mid 150 list, in fact think of all the fun days you are going to have over the coming days, weeks months.....years...

We on the other hand have been there done that, and cling to dreams and hopes. It is after all just a bit of fun..

Enjoy your birding.

ps if you can trip up Mr Raynor at the next twitch, that will be nice, the mans going to over take me soon.



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I salute all you 200 members .. you are dedicated bunch and are truly driven and dedicated twitchers.
I am way behind in the mid 150s and have a long way to go. I was at the Great Skua twitch at Audenshaw with John Rayner and the banter between the top listers was great to hear looking in from the outside. They cannot afford to miss out on any new bird for their lists.
Will I try to catch up a little? .. not sure, but the bug could bite as there a lot of 'easier' birds yet to go for.
I do have some blockers i.e. Desert Wheatear, Black Faced Bunting, Little Bunting and River Warbler.
September has seen me add Pectoral Sandpiper, Glossy Ibis, Lesser Scaup and last night Great Skua. I suppose the fact that I am typing this post is a indication I could join in.
I will give it some thought!


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What a tremendous sight it was last night, when a large migration of 200 Club members all arrived on masse at Audenshaw, posh shirts ties uniforms, I do wonder what excuses you gave to leave work early?
I was slightly disappointed with the number of puffing and out of breath members we had, steaming under the collar, with the same line of " I am getting to old for this !" well gentleman the answer is simple yes we are!!!

However we have no choice, The master, sends his text message out, and whens its a county tick, we TWITCH, we cannot help it, its in our blood, we just have to go, and deep down we love it.

One excuse last night was " I only do it to keep up with you " how strange I thought I was only there to try and catch them up, and we were all there to get us closer to the awe inspiring Pete Berry, who is going to be the first GM birder to reach 250.

Gentlemen I doff my hat to you all, You are worthy of the title Twitcher, you may want to be a birder! which you can stand proud and say you are a Birder, but you have a deep rooted condition that cannot be cured, we are Twitchers..

Well done to the gentleman who found the Skua, a wonderful bird, thank you for sharing your find.

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Congratulations to Ian Campbell. I'm still chipping away but the Lesser Scaup has left me with 10 birds to go. And I still don't have Sandwich Tern, Spotted Redshank and Snow Bunting

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MR IAN CAMPBELL...Congratulations and Welcome to The Greater Manchester 200 Club, so pleased to have you as a member, and what a 24 hours wait you had to have, knowing your 200th bird was there, but unable to get to it quickly, a sterling effort.

You can bird in Gm with an extra spring in your step now,in the sure knowledge that you are part of an elite band of lunatics.

Geoff my dear man, you are only 13 away, will not be long now till we let you have a members card, keep at it..

Ian sorry for the delay I have been somewhat tied up with other matters recently..



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Well done Ian,I,d love to raise a glass with you at the annual bash but I,m still stuck parking cars and hanging coats upbiggrin I,ll probably get my bus pass before my membership cardfurious

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No doubt Ian Campbell will get an official welcome from the 200 club very soon. However as an aspiring GM lister,
with some way to go , may I say congratulations and well done!


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fantastic efforts from them both, they almost made it to the GM200 club in one year, thats amazing, i recently watched the twitchers video and Lee Evans commented on doing 80,000 miles a year twitching round britain, at least twitching round GM wont be as expensive though im guessing the pressure is the same, its a real challenge to do a county year list, youve got to go for every bird, a lot of committment, hats off to you both

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Well done to the year listing duo (Karen and Mark that is, as if you didnīt know who I meant).

They do of course have the possibility in the future each for an upgrade as well should Amer. Black Tern acquire full species status.
Itīs ironic in a way that what arguably could be seen as Greater Manchesterīs bird of 2012 does not yet count as a full species.

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The 200 Clubs doffs its Hats and Caps tonight and raises a hearty cheer to Mr Rigby and Ms Foulkes on their outstanding achievement in year listing, well done to both of you.

You have to be mad to do it, ( i know ) I am sure the next madman is just around the corner, or on the moss ( methinks Mr Cook might be having a go )

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Hi Paul,

I met you briefly in passing as you were heading round for the Pied-billed Grebe at Hollingworth Lake.

Firstly, well done on reaching 180 for your Gr. Man. list; -you're 90% of the way now to the magic threshold!

I've no doubt that like Tim Wilcox, you'll also pass me again as my opportunities to justify trips down to Manchester diminish, as I prefer to have a go when there are two or more target species in the offing, (simply from the expense point of view).

I still need a few relatively common species like Turnstone and Merlin, and of course a wild Pintail, since I crossed off the Pennington long stayer earlier this year.

I wouldn't normally make a special trip for these unless I happened to be visiting family anyway in Gr. Manchester; - also with autumn migration underway, it's not advisable to stray too far from the N. East!

Cheers, and best wishes in your quest,
Mike P.


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Now that my son has moved to Manchester and won't be staying at mine every weekend, I may start to make a push (slowly) to get towards the magical 200. At last - got to 180 today with a great bird at Penny.


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Greetings to Mr. Heaton and to Mr. Wilcox, (in whose rear view mirror I sit).

Having largely completed my quota of chores at this end these last three months, I am now poised with fuel tank full and optics cleaned, ready for a serious onslaught within Greater Manchester. It just remains for some Star Birds to turn up, (preferably in a mixed flock, all together).
The only inhibition lurking in my mind is that it could be foolhardy to leave the N.E. now that September is upon us.

200 therefore remains a distant mirage, a figment of my imagination and dreams; - realistically beyond expectation.
In the context of my progress over the last year, (2 additions and one deduction;- the latter being the Plastic Pennington Pintail) a more realistic, though still ambitious target, is 185 over the next six months.

Regards,
Mr. P.




? Mr Passant, did you have prior knowledge of the Petrel at Penninigton when you wrote this
Cheers Ian

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Greetings to Mr. Heaton and to Mr. Wilcox, (in whose rear view mirror I sit).

Having largely completed my quota of chores at this end these last three months, I am now poised with fuel tank full and optics cleaned, ready for a serious onslaught within Greater Manchester. It just remains for some Star Birds to turn up, (preferably in a mixed flock, all together).
The only inhibition lurking in my mind is that it could be foolhardy to leave the N.E. now that September is upon us.

200 therefore remains a distant mirage, a figment of my imagination and dreams; - realistically beyond expectation.
In the context of my progress over the last year, (2 additions and one deduction;- the latter being the Plastic Pennington Pintail) a more realistic, though still ambitious target, is 185 over the next six months.

Regards,
Mr. P.

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