Well what a wonder life is ! the Sage that gave me the information, has also sent me a copy of Winter Hill to Yellowhammer lane by Peter Barlow , an excellent publication
I have added it to the 200 club library ,which I now believe has the finest collection of books relating to birding in the Manchester area .Always happy to add more if anyone knows of others ?
Thank you to the kind sage very much appreciated.
Keep Birding
Paul Heaton said
Sat Feb 6 4:16 PM, 2021
Well well , all very interesting .. I have a woodpecker corner , a whitethroat bend , a Goldcrest corner amongst others names for places on my walk around Mersey Valley Kickerty brook area .. used to have a Yellowhammer lane myself years ago over Heald Green way .....
I think local names are brilliant the mile road at Flixton is nowhere near a Mile, and thats not its real name ..
Thats said Gentlemen you have now made me trawl through my bookshelves boxes and sheds .....and it appears I do not have a copy of this book
so if anyone has one they would like to part with , please let me know.
Keep Birding .
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Saturday 6th of February 2021 09:25:00 PM
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Saturday 6th of February 2021 09:25:50 PM
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Saturday 6th of February 2021 09:26:19 PM
JOHN TYMON said
Sat Feb 6 1:26 PM, 2021
In the book Peter says why Yellowhammer Lane , "well I thought it sounded good as a title when put with Winter Hill" , I believe it was just one of the criss cross lanes that go across the mosslands near chat moss. It was a Lane that Peter Called Yellowhammer Lane in his notebook as he saw Yellowhammers down that lane rather than it being mapped anywhere as Yellowhammer Lane and knowing Peter it would be not far off the beaten track as he was a moocher rather than a long distance walker and he used to park on the road at the end of Rindle Road so it would be one of the tracks off there that was one of the lowest points in the Leigh Recording area. Originally the book was going to be the BOTLA (Birds of the Leigh Area) a more comprehensive book with a lot more detail but after many years the writing of that collapsed and Peter wrote that book in place of the original plan.
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Saturday 6th of February 2021 01:27:07 PM
Craig Higson said
Sat Feb 6 11:15 AM, 2021
So more in line with Pauls interpretation- hmm. Maybe my interpretation was wrong (alternatively my memory has just faded with age )!
dave broome said
Sat Feb 6 8:43 AM, 2021
I think Yellowhammer Lane may have been the lowest point above sea level in the Leigh Ornithological Society recording area. I could be remembering wrong, but thought that Mr Barlows inspiration for the title came when stood on Chat Moss looking at Winter Hill, the LOS recording areas highest point.
Craig Higson said
Fri Feb 5 11:41 PM, 2021
Paul Heaton wrote:
LOs publication I believe 95 pages P Barlow was the author I believe it was a local name but I cannot remember where it , its mentioned in David Balances Birds in Counties ....
oooh this is interesting !! okay in Kenneth Williamson book The sky"s their Highways he mentions on the northern side of Manor lane are fields of T'Hoom and T' Hees
and farmer Giles who has farmed here has hay meadows with corncrakes and lapwing yellow wagtails partridge and cuckoo and by the lane skirting T 'Hees is Peggy whitethroat and Yellowhammer ... what a wonder it must have been years ago
Leo H Grindon in County rambles talk of walking through the meadows of levenshulme
That in mind the answer you are looking for is Yellowhammer lane is actually MOSS LANE ASTLEY MOSS , the information came. from someone far wiser than me and I have learnt something new tonight ..
Keep Birding and stay happy
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Tuesday 2nd of February 2021 10:16:32 PM
I'm not so sure Paul. I used to have a copy of this book - probably still do somewhere - and I am sure that Yellowhammer lane represented the southernmost point of the LOS area and was somewhere on the southern side of the Manchester Ship Canal. I could easily be wrong but do remember looking for it myself and focussing around the Lymm/Warburton Area as that was where the southernmost point seemed to be.
Phillip Mannion said
Wed Feb 3 8:09 AM, 2021
Thanks Paul, and whoever the sage in the background is... It's good to know, many years later, that I have been somewhere and didn't even realise it! (This may happen a lot to some people, but I don't drink, so...)
Phillip
Paul Heaton said
Tue Feb 2 9:34 PM, 2021
LOs publication I believe 95 pages P Barlow was the author I believe it was a local name but I cannot remember where it , its mentioned in David Balances Birds in Counties ....
oooh this is interesting !! okay in Kenneth Williamson book The sky"s their Highways he mentions on the northern side of Manor lane are fields of T'Hoom and T' Hees
and farmer Giles who has farmed here has hay meadows with corncrakes and lapwing yellow wagtails partridge and cuckoo and by the lane skirting T 'Hees is Peggy whitethroat and Yellowhammer ... what a wonder it must have been years ago
Leo H Grindon in County rambles talk of walking through the meadows of levenshulme
That in mind the answer you are looking for is Yellowhammer lane is actually MOSS LANE ASTLEY MOSS , the information came. from someone far wiser than me and I have learnt something new tonight ..
Keep Birding and stay happy
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Tuesday 2nd of February 2021 10:16:32 PM
Phillip Mannion said
Tue Feb 2 2:28 PM, 2021
Leigh Ornithological Society published a book in 1992 called "From Winter Hill to Yellowhammer Lane". Where is Yellowhammer Lane? A Google search returns nothing that looks right and I can't find it on any map I own.
Well what a wonder life is ! the Sage that gave me the information, has also sent me a copy of Winter Hill to Yellowhammer lane by Peter Barlow , an excellent publication
I have added it to the 200 club library ,which I now believe has the finest collection of books relating to birding in the Manchester area .Always happy to add more if anyone knows of others ?
Thank you to the kind sage very much appreciated.
Keep Birding
Well well , all very interesting .. I have a woodpecker corner , a whitethroat bend , a Goldcrest corner amongst others names for places on my walk around Mersey Valley Kickerty brook area .. used to have a Yellowhammer lane myself years ago over Heald Green way .....
I think local names are brilliant the mile road at Flixton is nowhere near a Mile, and thats not its real name ..
Thats said Gentlemen you have now made me trawl through my bookshelves boxes and sheds .....and it appears I do not have a copy of this book
so if anyone has one they would like to part with , please let me know.
Keep Birding .
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Saturday 6th of February 2021 09:25:00 PM
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Saturday 6th of February 2021 09:25:50 PM
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Saturday 6th of February 2021 09:26:19 PM
In the book Peter says why Yellowhammer Lane , "well I thought it sounded good as a title when put with Winter Hill" , I believe it was just one of the criss cross lanes that go across the mosslands near chat moss. It was a Lane that Peter Called Yellowhammer Lane in his notebook as he saw Yellowhammers down that lane rather than it being mapped anywhere as Yellowhammer Lane and knowing Peter it would be not far off the beaten track as he was a moocher rather than a long distance walker and he used to park on the road at the end of Rindle Road so it would be one of the tracks off there that was one of the lowest points in the Leigh Recording area. Originally the book was going to be the BOTLA (Birds of the Leigh Area) a more comprehensive book with a lot more detail but after many years the writing of that collapsed and Peter wrote that book in place of the original plan.
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Saturday 6th of February 2021 01:27:07 PM
I'm not so sure Paul. I used to have a copy of this book - probably still do somewhere - and I am sure that Yellowhammer lane represented the southernmost point of the LOS area and was somewhere on the southern side of the Manchester Ship Canal. I could easily be wrong but do remember looking for it myself and focussing around the Lymm/Warburton Area as that was where the southernmost point seemed to be.
Thanks Paul, and whoever the sage in the background is... It's good to know, many years later, that I have been somewhere and didn't even realise it! (This may happen a lot to some people, but I don't drink, so...)
Phillip
LOs publication I believe 95 pages P Barlow was the author I believe it was a local name but I cannot remember where it , its mentioned in David Balances Birds in Counties ....
oooh this is interesting !! okay in Kenneth Williamson book The sky"s their Highways he mentions on the northern side of Manor lane are fields of T'Hoom and T' Hees
and farmer Giles who has farmed here has hay meadows with corncrakes and lapwing yellow wagtails partridge and cuckoo and by the lane skirting T 'Hees is Peggy whitethroat and Yellowhammer ... what a wonder it must have been years ago
Leo H Grindon in County rambles talk of walking through the meadows of levenshulme
That in mind the answer you are looking for is Yellowhammer lane is actually MOSS LANE ASTLEY MOSS , the information came. from someone far wiser than me and I have learnt something new tonight ..
Keep Birding and stay happy
-- Edited by Paul Heaton on Tuesday 2nd of February 2021 10:16:32 PM
Leigh Ornithological Society published a book in 1992 called "From Winter Hill to Yellowhammer Lane". Where is Yellowhammer Lane? A Google search returns nothing that looks right and I can't find it on any map I own.