Does it matter. The gamekeepers know the location of every raptors nest on their land. As regards egg collectors, there are no eggs to collect as the nests get shot out and the adults killed. As for the rest of us we have very little chance is seeing a goshawk never mind finding their nests.
JamieDunning said
Tue Jun 7 2:35 PM, 2016
I'm not sure how much control any of us had over that. Perhaps the significance is that this happened on RSPB land (which still covers many thousands of ha in that area)?
Ian McKerchar said
Tue Jun 7 1:44 PM, 2016
JamieDunning wrote:
JamieDunning wrote:
This happened on land managed by RSPB Dove Stone on 'the Derbyshire side of the hill'. That's probably as much detail as any of us should go into when speculating as to the whereabouts of rare breeding and heavily persecuted bird species
My sentiments exactly Jamie but I was very surprised if not a little alarmed that news was seemingly publicly released which referenced areas smaller than 'Derbyshire' or 'The Peak District' at the very least.
JamieDunning said
Tue Jun 7 11:29 AM, 2016
JamieDunning wrote:
This happened on land managed by RSPB Dove Stone on 'the Derbyshire side of the hill'. That's probably as much detail as any of us should go into when speculating as to the whereabouts of rare breeding and heavily persecuted bird species
John Watson said
Tue Jun 7 11:24 AM, 2016
I suspect everyone concerned, including the police, has a good idea who does each of these crimes. They're not as stupid as many would think. The problem is getting absolute proof when the crime is committed miles from anyone else: lack of sufficient evidence, and the CPS won't touch it.
Craig Higson said
Mon Jun 6 7:23 PM, 2016
It also says Longdendale Valley which is Ladybower down near Bamford in Debyshire. Some miscommunication methinks.
Ian Campbell said
Mon Jun 6 6:33 PM, 2016
Having read the report I'm not that sure it refers to Dovestones as it refers to Derbyshire? Cheers Ian
Ivan Ellison said
Sun Jun 5 8:30 PM, 2016
Depressing reading indeed. No surprise though.
tom willis said
Sat Jun 4 10:39 PM, 2016
Hi all
Having moved away from the region a couple of years ago I'm now only an infrequent visitor to this site. However, having read this story (https://raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com/2016/06/03/goshawk-suspected-shot-in-peak-district-national-park/) with considerable sadness I thought I'd have a look if there was any mention on the forum. I couldn't see any (apologies if I've missed something) so thought I'd start a thread. I used to be a regular visitor to Dovestone, living relative close by, although I wasn't aware that goshawks were active in the area (probably - and rightly - kept quiet for precisely the reasons behind the story), and it's so depressing to see news like this with such regularity. I've never seen a goshawk and thanks to people like this I'll continue to struggle to do so.
If anyone isn't aware of Mark Avery's petition to ban driven grouse shooting, please consider adding your name to the 40,000+ here:
Perhaps the significance is that this happened on RSPB land (which still covers many thousands of ha in that area)?
My sentiments exactly Jamie but I was very surprised if not a little alarmed that news was seemingly publicly released which referenced areas smaller than 'Derbyshire' or 'The Peak District' at the very least.
Cheers Ian
Hi all
Having moved away from the region a couple of years ago I'm now only an infrequent visitor to this site. However, having read this story (https://raptorpersecutionscotland.wordpress.com/2016/06/03/goshawk-suspected-shot-in-peak-district-national-park/) with considerable sadness I thought I'd have a look if there was any mention on the forum. I couldn't see any (apologies if I've missed something) so thought I'd start a thread. I used to be a regular visitor to Dovestone, living relative close by, although I wasn't aware that goshawks were active in the area (probably - and rightly - kept quiet for precisely the reasons behind the story), and it's so depressing to see news like this with such regularity. I've never seen a goshawk and thanks to people like this I'll continue to struggle to do so.
If anyone isn't aware of Mark Avery's petition to ban driven grouse shooting, please consider adding your name to the 40,000+ here:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125003
Best wishes,
Tom