Living in Culcheth, though, I have mixed feelings. The Culcheth Linear Park is now saved & the revised route is away from the village, reducing noise
If Silver Lane pools are lost (which I think were a mitigation for the landfill), I would expect that something would be constructed nearby to replace them
In the bigger picture, this link route was only intended to provide access to the Golborne depot, which is now moved to Crewe. So why on earth is it now planned to be a major link to Scotland ?? Do Manchester people have a problem getting to Scotland ?
Also, and this is well hidden, in section 8.9 and 8.10 of the report: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/568208/high-speed-two-crewe-manchester-west-midlands-leeds-web-version.pdf
"NPR aspirations for better services between Liverpool and Manchester could be met with a range of options. These options include new lines and upgrading existing lines. TfN has examined two options that make use of HS2 to connect Manchester and Liverpool. Both options involve construction of a new line to Liverpool, and a junction onto the HS2 route. Under these options it would be possible to deliver NPR's ambitions for a 30 minute journey between Manchester and Liverpool, connecting the cities via Manchester Airport.
"We will continue to work with TfN to plan how HS2 may best complement the development of future NPR services into and through Manchester, including through the provision of an integrated station solution"
This extra proposal will not go through Warrington (I don't see how you could do it in 30 mins), so there will be an environmental impact somewhere nearby
Ian McKerchar said
Tue Nov 15 2:52 PM, 2016
Some good news regarding HS2 and the future of Lightshaw as the original plans have now been re-routed slightly further west of Lightshaw Hall and the maintenance sheds have now been relocated to Crewe, so neither impacts on the flash and its immediate surrounding area.
Info thanks to Judith Smith
On a more sour note though, the plans don't look as positive for Silver Lane Pools.
don't forget to view the official LOS response on line via website link. www.leighos.org.uk
David Shallcross said
Wed Jan 29 3:23 PM, 2014
Thank you Ian, i'll be careful what i post in future, don't wish to add to the work load you have with the site.
Ian McKerchar said
Wed Jan 29 3:14 PM, 2014
David Shallcross wrote:
Leigh Ornithological Society
My initial Post on this subject has disappeared,???? if you wish to read more about the effects HS2 will have on Lowton and particular SSSI Abram Flashes, Lightshaw Meadow, and various grade A - SBI areas take a look at www.leighos.org.uk You can view and download the Society formal response to HS2
-- Edited by David Shallcross on Wednesday 29th of January 2014 01:27:42 PM
Because a link had been inserted the forum immediately quarantines it as potential spam (of which I've been having lots of recent problems with) but I originally thought I'd approved the post the it disappeared? Anyway, it's back now.
David Shallcross said
Wed Jan 29 1:26 PM, 2014
Leigh Ornithological Society
My initial Post on this subject has disappeared,???? if you wish to read more about the effects HS2 will have on Lowton and particular SSSI Abram Flashes, Lightshaw Meadow, and various grade A - SBI areas take a look at www.leighos.org.uk You can view and download the Society formal response to HS2
-- Edited by David Shallcross on Wednesday 29th of January 2014 01:27:42 PM
James Walsh said
Tue Jan 28 12:34 PM, 2014
Meeting today at All Saints, Hale Road, Hale Barns WA15 8ST 7pm
Find out more about the HS2 proposals that may affect Hale Barns and the surrounding area
Free refreshments from 6:30pm
David Shallcross said
Tue Jan 28 11:29 AM, 2014
L.O.S. Formal Response to HS2 Consultation
The route of HS2 through this area terminates at Lightshaw with a through-line joining the West Coast Main Line (WCML) just south of Dover Lock. On the south side of the through line at Lightshaw there will be a rolling stock depot 2.5km long and at least 175m wide which will cut through the garden of Byrom Hall and leave Lightshaw Hall marooned in a car park within the depot.
The through-line will pass just 70m away from the main waterbody in the Lightshaw Meadows Nature Reserve. Lightshaw Lane and part of the reserve will be obliterated. The Society cannot stand by and let this happen. A covering letter signed by David Shallcross accompanied the response attached to this e-mail which went to HS2.
Also attached herewith is a sketch map of the location of the depot, through-line and designated sites at Lightshaw so that you can see what is proposed. I have liaised extensively with local residents groups and they have also seen our response. Local residents with British Rail experience and with economics knowledge have individually set out very persuasive cases which propose that HS2 goes through Warrington instead and that the financial case for the Golborne spur from the Ship Canal is badly flawed and would make a loss.
The full L.O.S. response document can be downloaded from here: LOS Response to HS2 Consultation Document and the map from here: Sketch Map of Proposed HS2 Route at Lightshaw.
You can respond by e-mail to: HS2 Phase Two Route@Ipsos.com
in an online response form: Phase 2 Route Consultation
or by post to:Freepost RTEL-YAZX-HAZT Phase Two Route Consultation PO Box 1152, Harrow, HA1 9LH
There is a consultation response document available, but it covers quite a lot of things outside our area and interests.
Closing date is 5pm on January 31, 2014 Roy Rhodes, L.O.S. Conservation Officer Full details on the LOS websitehttp://www.leighos.org.uk
-- Edited by David Shallcross on Tuesday 28th of January 2014 07:31:06 PM
If Silver Lane pools are lost (which I think were a mitigation for the landfill), I would expect that something would be constructed nearby to replace them
In the bigger picture, this link route was only intended to provide access to the Golborne depot, which is now moved to Crewe. So why on earth is it now planned to be a major link to Scotland ?? Do Manchester people have a problem getting to Scotland ?
Also, and this is well hidden, in section 8.9 and 8.10 of the report:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/568208/high-speed-two-crewe-manchester-west-midlands-leeds-web-version.pdf
"NPR aspirations for better services between Liverpool and Manchester could be met with a range of options. These options include new lines and upgrading existing lines. TfN has examined two options that make use of HS2 to connect Manchester and Liverpool. Both options involve construction of a new line to Liverpool, and a junction onto the HS2 route. Under these options it would be possible to deliver NPR's ambitions for a 30 minute journey between Manchester and Liverpool, connecting the cities via Manchester Airport.
"We will continue to work with TfN to plan how HS2 may best complement the development of future NPR services into and through Manchester, including through the provision of an integrated station solution"
This extra proposal will not go through Warrington (I don't see how you could do it in 30 mins), so there will be an environmental impact somewhere nearby
Info thanks to Judith Smith
On a more sour note though, the plans don't look as positive for Silver Lane Pools.
Because a link had been inserted the forum immediately quarantines it as potential spam (of which I've been having lots of recent problems with) but I originally thought I'd approved the post the it disappeared? Anyway, it's back now.
My initial Post on this subject has disappeared,???? if you wish to read more about the effects HS2 will have on Lowton and particular SSSI Abram Flashes, Lightshaw Meadow, and various grade A - SBI areas take a look at www.leighos.org.uk
You can view and download the Society formal response to HS2
-- Edited by David Shallcross on Wednesday 29th of January 2014 01:27:42 PM
Find out more about the HS2 proposals that may affect Hale Barns and the surrounding area
Free refreshments from 6:30pm
The route of HS2 through this area terminates at Lightshaw with a through-line joining the West Coast Main Line (WCML) just south of Dover Lock. On the south side of the through line at Lightshaw there will be a rolling stock depot 2.5km long and at least 175m wide which will cut through the garden of Byrom Hall and leave Lightshaw Hall marooned in a car park within the depot.
The through-line will pass just 70m away from the main waterbody in the Lightshaw Meadows Nature Reserve. Lightshaw Lane and part of the reserve will be obliterated. The Society cannot stand by and let this happen. A covering letter signed by David Shallcross accompanied the response attached to this e-mail which went to HS2.
Also attached herewith is a sketch map of the location of the depot, through-line and designated sites at Lightshaw so that you can see what is proposed. I have liaised extensively with local residents groups and they have also seen our response. Local residents with British Rail experience and with economics knowledge have individually set out very persuasive cases which propose that HS2 goes through Warrington instead and that the financial case for the Golborne spur from the Ship Canal is badly flawed and would make a loss.
The full L.O.S. response document can be downloaded from here: LOS Response to HS2 Consultation Document and the map from here: Sketch Map of Proposed HS2 Route at Lightshaw.
You can respond by e-mail to: HS2 Phase Two Route@Ipsos.com
in an online response form: Phase 2 Route Consultation
or by post to:Freepost RTEL-YAZX-HAZT Phase Two Route Consultation PO Box 1152, Harrow, HA1 9LH
There is a consultation response document available, but it covers quite a lot of things outside our area and interests.
Closing date is 5pm on January 31, 2014 Roy Rhodes, L.O.S. Conservation Officer Full details on the LOS website http://www.leighos.org.uk
-- Edited by David Shallcross on Tuesday 28th of January 2014 07:31:06 PM