If its not for an 'official' list (i.e the ones on here where Ian has stated rules) or something like the UK 400 Club then its pretty much up to you whether you tick feral stuff off. With this Goose, as its origin is somewhat doubtful I'd be tempted to keep it in the feral category for now, but you may decide that its good enough for you, and why not.
UK 400 Club an "Official" List - I think not!
-- Edited by Pete Hines on Monday 21st of September 2009 09:34:40 PM
Now now Pete - you'll notice that I distinctly kept those words seperate.
Pete Hines said
Mon Sep 21 9:33 PM, 2009
Craig Higson wrote:
I'm guessing you know whats coming here Pete
If its not for an 'official' list (i.e the ones on here where Ian has stated rules) or something like the UK 400 Club then its pretty much up to you whether you tick feral stuff off. With this Goose, as its origin is somewhat doubtful I'd be tempted to keep it in the feral category for now, but you may decide that its good enough for you, and why not.
UK 400 Club an "Official" List - I think not!
-- Edited by Pete Hines on Monday 21st of September 2009 09:34:40 PM
Craig Higson said
Fri Sep 18 8:32 PM, 2009
Ian McKerchar wrote:
Craig Higson wrote:
If its not for an 'official' list (i.e the ones on here where Ian has stated rules)
I'm afraid I always feel the need to explain when I see/hear this Such 'rules' only apply to lists on the Manchester Birdiing website, and then purely only so all birders are on a level footing when comparing themselves to each other on the site. What you count on your own personal list is entirely (and quite rightly) up to you although I'm afraid I'm with Craig on this one and my own personal percentages for the RBGoose is probably closer to 99% feral, but then again I'm that way inclined
Yeah - sorry Ian. Couldnt think of a better way to put other than by using the R word. You have explained it much more eloquently
Paul Heaton said
Fri Sep 18 8:18 AM, 2009
Ian McKerchar wrote:
I'm afraid I always feel the need to explain What you count on your own personal list is entirely (and quite rightly) up to you although I'm afraid I'm probably closer to 99% feral, but then again I'm that way inclined
Dont be so hard on yourself Ian. As for the goose its a not to tick for me. Have seen two in Scotland and lots more elsewhere.
keep birding and enjoy.
Pete Welch said
Thu Sep 17 10:23 PM, 2009
Ian McKerchar wrote:
Craig Higson wrote:
If its not for an 'official' list (i.e the ones on here where Ian has stated rules)
I'm afraid I always feel the need to explain when I see/hear this Such 'rules' only apply to lists on the Manchester Birdiing website, and then purely only so all birders are on a level footing when comparing themselves to each other on the site. What you count on your own personal list is entirely (and quite rightly) up to you although I'm afraid I'm with Craig on this one and my own personal percentages for the RBGoose is probably closer to 99% feral, but then again I'm that way inclined
Fair comment - us eager beginners will always try and stretch the "rules" anyway life list now on 193 without the RBG
Geoff Hargreaves said
Thu Sep 17 10:16 PM, 2009
Just to fuel the 'is it wild debate' which i quite enjoy ,everyone should have a butchers at the bird and tick it in their note books.Tongue in cheekish,but the hollingworth white fronted story is a good read
cheers geoff
-- Edited by Geoff Hargreaves on Thursday 17th of September 2009 10:17:08 PM
Ian McKerchar said
Thu Sep 17 9:33 PM, 2009
Craig Higson wrote:
If its not for an 'official' list (i.e the ones on here where Ian has stated rules)
I'm afraid I always feel the need to explain when I see/hear this Such 'rules' only apply to lists on the Manchester Birdiing website, and then purely only so all birders are on a level footing when comparing themselves to each other on the site. What you count on your own personal list is entirely (and quite rightly) up to you although I'm afraid I'm with Craig on this one and my own personal percentages for the RBGoose is probably closer to 99% feral, but then again I'm that way inclined
Pete Welch said
Thu Sep 17 9:00 PM, 2009
Thanks Craig, I think you're right I'll classify it as 90% feral, 10% chance its not and wait til I see a proper one! Cheers, Peter
Craig Higson said
Thu Sep 17 8:49 PM, 2009
I'm guessing you know whats coming here Pete
If its not for an 'official' list (i.e the ones on here where Ian has stated rules) or something like the UK 400 Club then its pretty much up to you whether you tick feral stuff off. With this Goose, as its origin is somewhat doubtful I'd be tempted to keep it in the feral category for now, but you may decide that its good enough for you, and why not.
Pete Welch said
Wed Sep 16 9:08 PM, 2009
I know there is no right answer only opinion but just out of interest who'd actually count the following: Red Breasted Goose - seen at Knowsley earlier this year with a flock of feral Barnacles. Initially I'd put it in my Feral folder as it were, but then the Martin Mere WWT website notes that its back this year with them and apparently spends the summer in Knowsley and the winter at Martin Mere - all fine and still looking feral until they state on the website that the bird originally arrived some years ago with Wild Pinkfeet...
Guess its not conclusive cos the pinkfeet could have picked it up from say Caerlaverock but anyone have a view?
Now now Pete - you'll notice that I distinctly kept those words seperate.
UK 400 Club an "Official" List
-- Edited by Pete Hines on Monday 21st of September 2009 09:34:40 PM
Yeah - sorry Ian. Couldnt think of a better way to put other than by using the R word. You have explained it much more eloquently
Fair comment - us eager beginners will always try and stretch the "rules"
cheers geoff
-- Edited by Geoff Hargreaves on Thursday 17th of September 2009 10:17:08 PM
I'm afraid I always feel the need to explain when I see/hear this
If its not for an 'official' list (i.e the ones on here where Ian has stated rules) or something like the UK 400 Club then its pretty much up to you whether you tick feral stuff off. With this Goose, as its origin is somewhat doubtful I'd be tempted to keep it in the feral category for now, but you may decide that its good enough for you, and why not.