If you are recording for the atlas (which of course you all are!) please record White Wagtail (alba) and Pied Wagtail (yarrellii) seperately and not as Pied/White Wagtail.

Many thanks
Steve

JOHN TYMON wrote:

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sure we'll find out one day that treemippets a new species

-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Tuesday 5th of May 2009 10:03:15 PM

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Anthus penningtonus maybe?

Dean Macdonald wrote:

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I had a feeling i'd be shot down
Nice bird anyway

Cheers Dean.

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same as the treemippit at penny for me a nice bird butsure we'll find out one day that treemippets a new species

-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Tuesday 5th of May 2009 10:03:15 PM

I had a feeling i'd be shot down
Nice bird anyway

Cheers Dean.

pretty sure dean although feels like a new bird,our pied is the same species,just different from the white,in fact i read somewere there are 11 sub species,that are all classed as 1 species,wether it classes as a county tick i don't know,but pretty sure white and pied are only 1 tick on the lifelist.

-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Tuesday 5th of May 2009 09:50:49 PM

I fear not
Cheers Ian

Unfortunately not, our Pied Wagtail (Motacilla alba yarrellii) is just a race of White Wagtail (Motacilla alba).

Is White Wagtail counted as a seperate species from Pied? I've tried to do a search to see if this has been discussed before but the search is down. I've seen my first in the county at Rumworth yesterday. I want to tick it as i feel i've seen something new but is it a genuine tick? Cheers Dean.