Hopefully, this is an OS map of where you want to be:

http://www.multimap.com/s/Na4LrMHB

Alternatively, if you put in the postcode LL20 8EH in a sat nav it will almost get you there, just carry on up the road until you come out on the open moor. View the hillside on your left.

steve ashworth wrote:

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Could any of you nice birders help out an old confused man by explaning how i might get to worlds end, i have googled it but it just comes up with differerent sites trying to sell me things.
Many thanks Steve

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Steve put Llandegla Moor in your Google search that will do the trick.

Could any of you nice birders help out an old confused man by explaning how i might get to worlds end, i have googled it but it just comes up with differerent sites trying to sell me things.

Many thanks Steve

We went about three weeks ago midweek and didn't arrive until about 9:00 and had at least 8 lekking male at the same spot - midweek is a lot less disturbed than weekends.

We watched twice from the car, one the way to the car park and again on the way back -both times the birds were happy to let us carefully leave the car and (digi)scope from the road.

Gavin Delaney wrote:

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Jonathan,

what time did you get there to see them? the only time I went last year we were "fogged off" and have been waiting for the opportunity again.

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I meant to get there for dawn but had a problem with a new debit card when buying petrol (thanks Santander!) which meant I only arrived around 7.15am. From previous experience with other leks the males usually arrive before dawn so I'd get there as early as possible. Also, they may flush several times for no apparent reason but, early on at least, they usually return. Three guys on mountain bikes came down the quad track around 8.30am, which is another consideration, though the blackcock had moved on by then this morning. It might be better to drive through the larch plantation, carry on up the road, turn round and park up as soon as you can see down the valley beneath the plantation. I stayed in my car until the birds flushed but two guys who turned up later got out and the distant grouse didn't seem concerned.

Was over at the Great Orme yesterday, lovely day over there with sun shining all day. Lots of Ravens about, and sea ducks now joined by returning auks. Was hoping for an early migrant or two, but cou;dn't find any, unless you count the endless flocks of Meadow Pipits. Great views over the bay to Conwy, Llanfairfechan, the menai straits and Anglesey:

Red-throated Diver 6
Great Crested Grebe 3
Cormarant 100+
Shag 6
Common Scoter 1000+
Eider 4
Peregrine 2
Buzzard 4
Kestrel 2
Curlew 2
Oystercatcher 12+
Redshank 2
Puffin 2
Razorbill 30+
Guillemot 50+
Stonechat 2
Meadow Pipit 80+
Siskin 2
Linnet 4
Raven 8

Plus a herring Gull that tried swooped down for my icecream on the front in the town, but my quick reactions just saved it!!?

Maybe a bit early afterall for most migrants, but was a lovely walk in the sunshine all the same.

Jonathan,

what time did you get there to see them? the only time I went last year we were "fogged off" and have been waiting for the opportunity again.

Twenty one blackcock and a single greyhen at Worlds End this morning. They were leking by the quad track about quarter of a mile from the larch wood car park, though I could only pick four out on the ground (I saw them in flight twice - 16, then 21 plus the greyhen). Plenty of siskins and half a dozen crossbills in the larches too.

Strange, it's working now. Thanks.

No m8.

Is anyone else unable to get onto the North Wales Birding Forum right now? Seems to be having some problems.
Thanks. Henry.

Quick trip over to Pensarn this afternoon in the hope of Surf Scoter after reports from elsewhere

More Common Scoter than last week with several Velvets as well as Red-breasted Merganser, Red-throated Diver and Great crested Grebe, but no Surfies or Long tailed Duck for me unfortunately.

Originally posted by Phil Panton today:

Pleasant day with plenty of sunshine, if a little cold.

Abergele/Pensarn
Plenty of Common Scoter with a sprinkling of Velvets, but no sign of any Surf.
Large number of Great Crested Grebes with a fair number of Red Throated Divers.
Managed to eventually pick up on the Long Tailed Duck.

Kinmel Bay
Atleast 4 Snow Bunting showing well on the beach, but unable to locate the female Black Redstart which is present.


-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Wednesday 24th of February 2010 10:55:13 PM

After de-icing the car and battling the foggy M56 arrived at Pensarn at 07.30 in glorious sunshine. In the car park, on the prom, next to the larger cafe there was a nice little flock of 8 Twite that someone has put seed out for, a good start. There were hundreds of Common Scoter on the sea including 8 Velvet males, a couple of which obligingly flapped white wing patches for me - also on the sea Great Crested Grebe, Red-breasted Merganser and Ringed Plover on the beach. Alas no sign of the recently reported Surf Scoters.

At Kimnel Bay the Snow Bunts (3F & 1M) duly put in an appearance as did the Black Redstart (F) I was looking for. As usual at this time of year there were several Sanderling at the waters edge.

On to Presthaven caravan park/beach to look for the long-staying Shore Lark no luck there although two birds were reported by the security guard as having been present around the adjacent caravans this morning there was no sign in the hour or so I spent before I had to leave. These two could be the birds that I saw on the beach at Talacre in December I suppose. On the beach at the high tide lots more Sanderling, Knot, Grey Plover and Dunlin.

The final stop was at Shotwick Fields where the 90 strong mixed flock of Whoopers and Bewicks is still present including the yellow legged Whooper that to me does not look in such good health - looks to be having trouble walking and there appears to be three lumps in its neck - the birds were very close to the road this afternoon so it was very easy to see.

So all in all not a bad day's birding - hope old yellow legs is ok.

-- Edited by sid ashton on Thursday 18th of February 2010 08:09:43 AM

Me and Henry Cook had a great days birding today starting off with over 40 Bewick's Swans and 50+ Whooper Swans at Shotwick.fields. The reported leucistic Whooper with the yellow legs was also present.

From there we headed to Bodelwydden Castle for Marsh Tit and after an extensive search of the Woods listening out, we heard a call and a pair were soon located.

Onto Rhos-on-Sea next for the Purple Sandpipers at high tide (7 in total seen) very close up on the rocks against the sea wall amongst the Turnstones and Ringed Plovers and a quick seawatch also produced Red-Throated Diver, Shag and Common Scoter (large flock) amonst others.

RSPB Conwy had a reported Glaucous Gull but this couldn't be found but we did see Red-Breasted Merganser, Goldeneye, Little Egret and the other usual suspects.

Then on our way home, we stopped off at Kinmel Bay for the 3 reported Snow Buntings. We searched the beach and managed to find 4 in total (1 stunning Male bird and 3 Females) all feeding on the waste line on the beach on the mouth of the River Clwyd. Suddenly, they flew off but then quickly landed on a log only 20 metres or so in front of us giving some really excellent views. If only we had a camera with us!!!

A cracking days birding!!!!





-- Edited by Phil Owen on Monday 15th of February 2010 08:07:48 PM

3 drake Surf Scoters this afternoon off Old Colwyn, in with 10000+ Common Scoters. Quite a sight with hardly a wave on the sea and good sunlight making good viewing. First time i've ever seen the whole scoter flock in it's entirity, stretching from Colwyn Bay right over to Rhyl at least 1km offshore.

Popped over to Pensarn this morning to check out the Scoter flocks. Poor conditions early on, but within the 1000 strong Common Scoter rafts were approx 14-15 Velvets, showing their white wing flashes and extra bulk well in flight in comparison to their plainer cousins. It cleared slightly, but despite this my mate and I were unable to find the 2 Surf Scoters that have been observed within the rafts over the last 3 days, though the conditions were more favourable then. There were smaller scoter associating with the Velvets, but could make out no obvious signs of Surfs, maybe next time .

We left the Scoter, some RB Merganser and odd Fulmar behind to scan the Yellowbills in Shotwick, Flintshire en route to Parkgate. We counted 31 Bewick's and 53 Whooper, including 4 first winter Bewick's which was a lovely sight. I have not seen that many in the Dee estuary for many years .

Hi Henry, was a lovely day out thanks. You are right with the site names, i've still not grasped the welsh language! The Twite were not on the saltmarsh though, as it was underwater during high tide. They were flitting between a field and an allotment nearer to the prom. Some were even perching on a lucky householders fence! Lovely birds and they seemed quite content. Perhaps a place they go during high tide, as they looked to have a plentiful food supply.

I presume the Twite were seen at the saltmarsh known as Morfa Madryn Sean? Incredibly high count for that site, there's only been ones and twos in recent years.
Sounds like it was a great day out.
Henry.

Spent the day with some old friends in North Wales birding like past days in my youth!?!

We started at Lllanfairfechan promonade before the high tide to seawatch the coast, then walked down the coast towards Aber over the saltmarsh and back again to scan the sea and have a big brekkie, lots of decent birds, including:

Off the coast of Llanfairfechan:
1 GN Diver
12-14 RT Diver
20+ Eider
50+ Common Scoter
60+ GC Grebe
4 Fulmar (flying round cliffs on route, near Conwy)
8 RB Merganser

Saltmarsh (although under water during high tide) and freshwater pools south of Llanfairfechan:
55 Twite
20+ Redwing
200+ Teal
250+ Wigeon
12 Pintail
20+ Shelduck
16+ RB Merganser
1 Goldeneye
1000+ Dunlin
12+ Bar-tailed Godwit
200+ Curlew
80+ Redshank
1 Greenshank
600+ Lapwing
40+ Ringed Plover
30+ Turnstone
1 Snipe
1 Little Grebe

Small reserve near Penryn
1 Little Grebe
6 Little Egret
1 Greenshank
4 Bar-tailed Godwit
1 Kingfisher
2 Nuthatch
Lots of other distant waders including more of the same as above...

Conwy Valley highlights
1 Hawfinch
1 Common Sandpiper

Lovely day out, although freezing start during seawatch. Glad sun came out and well worth the travelling with Hawfinch an absolute brilliant battleship finch!?

To be fair, including Sunday, I've had a cracking three days birding picking up Ring-necked Duck in Yorkshire on way home, Shorelark in Bolton before football !! and Hawfinch in North Wales, it's what dreams are made of heh

Point Of Ayr:-
Good numbers of Sanderling,Dunlin,Oiks,Ringed Plover,Grey Plover,several hundred Golden Plover,Teal,Pintail,Shelduck etc,always worth spending a bit of time here.
Rhyl Marine Lake:-
Apart from 2 Goldeneye and 2 Mergs pretty well birdless.
Kinmel Bay:-
2 Snow Bunts which somehow managed not to get trampled on by the hordes of grockles out with their kids/dogs
Rhos Point:-
At least 14 Purple Sands roosting close to the path at high tide together with good numbers of Turnstone and Ringed Plover.Offshore at least a dozen R.T.Divers,1 Great Northern,lots of Great Crested Grebes and a few Common Scoter,and a flock of 30 Merganser flying around.
Penrhyn Bay:-
Still 3 Woodlark present,showing well(eventually) quite close to the path.Also there large numbers of Redwing and Fieldfare,and a few Brambling.

Geoff Walton wrote:

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What no snow ice or wind chill?High Peak group should have gone last Sunday, but none of us got get the cars out, and did not fancy a 90 mile drive, or the cold.
Seems you were lucky. Even Chadkirk was out, you could have slid from my house to the Pylon Field without stopping.

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No Geoff we weren't lucky - just checked the weather forecast and used Henry's amazing knowledge of the local climate to decide on the likely local weather conditions today

PS Saturday. The Woodlark are still present this morning anyone going over should take wellies because parts of the path are a bit bad from the snow. A couple of people of asked for directions - it may be a bit late in the day now but check northwalesbirding.co.uk, Wood lark thread - also some pics there. Also please note the message about sticking to the paths.



-- Edited by sid ashton on Saturday 16th of January 2010 11:37:23 AM

What no snow ice or wind chill?High Peak group should have gone last Sunday, but none of us got get the cars out, and did not fancy a 90 mile drive, or the cold.
Seems you were lucky. Even Chadkirk was out, you could have slid from my house to the Pylon Field without stopping.

Henry how could you forget the Llandudno Twite

Loads of birds about in Conwy county today in addition to the species Sid mentioned including 120+ Chaffinch, 80+ Linnets, 20+ Skylarks, 14 Lapwings at the Woodlark site near Glanwydden, 3 Dunlins, c20 Ringed Plovers, 2 Goldeneyes, 1 Red-throated Diver, Common Scoters, Guillemots, Great Crested Grebes and Shags at Rhos Point, 2 Fulmars, 2 Ravens, 4 Rock Pipits and a Peregrine at West Shore Llandudno, Common Sandpiper at the Tal-y-cafn bridge and then the wonderful Hawfinches. In 5+ years of visiting the area this is only the second time i've seen Hawfinches there; the first being on Jan 1st earlier this year!
Tomorrow is forecast pretty bad weather so I would think the Woodlarks should stay but there has been a clearout of the 400 or so Skylarks in the Glanwydden area reported earlier on this week and the Woodies may follow soon....

A cracking day's birding with Henry C today - in sunshine for most of the time. The highlights for me were 10 Woodlark at Glanwydden, Penrhyn Bay (Henry counted 12), the Purple Sands at Rhos and the Hawfinch at Llabedr-y-Cennin up past the church yard. The only downside was we couldn't find the Black Redstart at Llandudno. Over to you Henry for the full list.

Went to The Spinnies today and although a little cold we had some good sightings.

Bittern seen at the Kingfisher Hide at 11-30am then about 45 mins later as we were walking to the other hide it flew over our heads again heading inland.
Curlew (200+) Blackbird
Oystercatcher Kingfisher
Redshank Jay
Crow Nuthatch
Starling Heron
Dunnock Shelduck
Mallard Little Egret
Teal Red Breasted Merganser (also 4 on lake at
Llanfairfechan)
Moorhen Wood Pigeon
Blue, Great and Coal Tits Canada Goose
Chaffinch Greylag Goose
Little Grebe
Bullfinch
House Sparrow
Magpie

Had a day out with the kids today and managed to stop off at Kinmel Bay for the snow buntings - a bird I'd always wanted to see and five of them obligingly fed on the coastal path and in amongst the scrub and shingle just beneath the path and if we kept still approached to about 10 feet away at times - magical birds!

Visited Talacre today hoping for Shore Lark, guess what, 2 were seen to fly away 40 mins before we got there.Sid, I knew this would happen but thanks anyway for your help. Did however find a single, very confiding female Snow Bunting and lots of Pintail, Wigeon, Shelduck, Oystercatcher, Knot and Redshank.
Not in Wales but on way back made a detour to Wallasey Life Boat Station to find 7 Purple Sandpiper amongst 20 Turnstone just 20 feet away.
Cheers Ian

Both Shore Larks still reported present today - east of the lighthouse.

Late morning visit to Talacre in search of the 2 Shore Larks began with 4 helicopters flying low over the sand dunes and the sight of the assembled birders packing up

However after a short search back toward the lighthouse the birds were relocated relatively easily. These two seemed more confiding than the Birkdale bird and didn't seem all that concerned when the inevitable "shutter nutter" attempted to get them to sit on the end of his lens - this had the effect of pushing the birds closer to where we were standing giving us cracking views They continued feeding and both took a sand bath - excellent. They were later joined in feeding by a single Snow Bunting.

Also on the marsh behind the dunes 4 Twite, 9 -10 Sky Lark and 5-6 Linnet.

PS Wednesday 18th - As a couple of you have asked for info on Talacre thought others may be interested as well so here goes:

Go to the end of the M56 and onto the Flint Road A548 over the new bridge, going through Flint, Greenfield etc until you come to a round-about. Go right here to Talacre (beach) - there is a car park near the shops but you can drive right to the end of the road and park next to the salt marsh/dunes. The birds have been seen on the stoney area between the beach and the dunes east of the light house. Its only about half a mile from end to end of dunes. Hope that helps anyone thinking of going over. It's not that far, actually a little closer to where I live in Altrincham than Marshside.








-- Edited by sid ashton on Wednesday 18th of November 2009 11:05:46 AM

Henry Cook wrote:

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Nice one Pete.
I've never heard of such an large influx locally there but the Little Orme can get the odd overwintering bird.
That bit of rocky shore with the little church by it is known as Rhos Point.
Henry.

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Thanks Henry, there was also a chap from the NorthWales forum digiscoping the three in the quarry [he's posted some good pics I notice] and I've sent a few photos in for Ian for "out of county" in case they're of use. My feeling is there were two females at the quarry and one maybe first winter male [more colour to it round the eye and head] and the one at Rhos Point an older male as darker again. One birder thought there could have been five in the quarry.

Rhos point was really interesting as the tide came in with at least ten Great Crested Grebes right out into the distance plus all the other stuff I mentioned. Cheers, Peter

Nice one Pete.
I've never heard of such an large influx locally there but the Little Orme can get the odd overwintering bird.
That bit of rocky shore with the little church by it is known as Rhos Point.
Henry.

Another quick trip to North Wales... this time to try and see some of the Black Redstarts that have been around - started at the Little Orme and having climbed up to the top quarry found a Little Owl being mobbed by two Black Redstarts and a mixed party of Goldfinches, Great Tits and Jackdaws! [I even managed a photo with one of the Black Redstarts and the Little Owl].

Then joined some other birders to watch three of the BRs feeding including flycatcher style and if you kept still they approached to with about 25m. After nearly an hour watching them I dragged myself away and went to the shore line near the Little Church [where the cafe and the small harbour is] after a top tip from some friendly birders. Had another Black Redstart pointed out to me [male with more colour to it than the other three]. Then went for a walk and found five Purple Sands, plus many Turnstone and Ringed Plovers on the rock armour and whilst driving away stopped to look at a large bird about 200m off the shore which swam in and turned out to be a Great Northern Diver - two lifers in a day and some really enjoyable birding.

Another trip to Fforyd/Caernarfon and Great Orme to show my boss [a long time lurker on here!!!] a few of the better spots, a good selection of species seen including:

Brent Geese
Shell Duck
Mipits [everywhere]
Curlew - large groups in the fields
Turnstones - formation flying up the coastal road at Caernarfon
Greenfinch
Chaffinch [poss Brambling]
Fieldfare
Stonechats
Ravens

and perhaps best of all a family group of four swans [assumed Whoopers] two adult, two juvenile passing the Great Orme out at sea and heading south headlong into a force 6...

Then went to Hilbre and Parkgate as per my other post.

It's possible the Stonechats have not headed to lower areas as the weather has been so relatively warm Pete. Give it a cold snap and they may clear out and head for the coast.

Went for a walk up Moel Famou with my six year old this morning - her first proper hill walk and as a bonus saw plenty of Mippits, Ravens, Buzzard, a Kestrel, a pair of Stonechats [bit late for these?] and crows. Then in the forest on the way back down small parties of Redwing over, Goldcrests calling and working in the gloom of the pine trees and best a group of around 12 Crossbills flew over and around for a while. I was quite chuffed with the Crossbill ID seeing as I had no bins and had to double check the call on the web when I got home to confirm! Sadly no grouse Red or Black...

Henry Cook wrote:

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Winds had picked up to a force 8 on the orme this afternoon Pete and I saw even less than you but the fieldfare in the churchyard was still present, not quite a Pallas's Warbler!

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Was a bit fierce wasn't it Henry! Even the goats looked a bit put out...

Winds had picked up to a force 8 on the orme this afternoon Pete and I saw even less than you but the fieldfare in the churchyard was still present, not quite a Pallas's Warbler!

Must've crossed with you at some point today Gary! I did a tour round Great Orme early this morning and found Fieldfare, thrushes, Siskin and assorted finches at the cemetry. Then quite a few parties of Rock and Meadow Pipits around the cliffs with some Ravens enjoying the wind but as it was blowing about force 7 - well enough to rock the car when it was parked - I headed down to Foryd Bay not having seen the snow bunting that had been on the Orme all week.

Once at Foryd I was really pleased to see the Brent flocks, hundreds of wigeon, a few Pintail and one Teal, lots of curlew, dunlin, redshank, turnstones, oystercatchers and a snipe - which looked good on a three second glance for a Jack Snipe [would've been a lifer and my 200th species] until some rather selfish individual encouraged his spaniel onto the beach to put everything up and away. The glimpse I got of the snipe and fleeting impression was a bit bigger than the Turnstones, a lot smaller than the Oystercatchers, really bright stripes on the back and a very pale/white belly and vent area - one that I'll have to file as "I'll never know..."

Sadly I had to get back for lunchtime but I really recommend that road around Foryd Bay [I just put the postcode for Caernarfon Golf Club in the satnav].

Cheers, Peter

conwy rsb- two visits going and return journeys ,lots of redshank possible 100+,302 curlews ,2 greenshank,1 knot,3 dunlin,2 red breasted mergansers,2 little grebe,1 great crested grebe.2 little egret,1 snipe .

llanfairfechan/ morfa madryn -1 razorbill ,6 red breasted mergansers,4 little egret, 6 ringed plover,1 peregrine, 8 red throted divers,6 great crested grebes,2 little grebe,8 linnet,loads of redshank and wigeon,6 pintail,big flock of oystercatchers and curlews.

red warf bay-curlews,oyster catchers,2 peregrine,2 kestrel,6 red breasted megansers,wigeon,2 little egret.

maltraeth-20 turnstone,8 dunlin,2 ringed plover,2 black guilimot,1 razorbill ,3 red throted divers,5 meadow pipits.

bull bay cob- 1 green sandpiper,curlews and oystrcatchers and 1 little egret.

south stack- 2 raven,4 chough,6 stone chats and not much else apart from the beautiful scenery.

spinnies- 7 greenshank,1 snipe,12 redshank,4 little egrets,loads of wigeon on the sea along with 8 red breasted mergansers and 6 great crested grebe.across the other side of the menai was 54 lttle egrets.

y fford -72 brent geese,100s wigeon,8 pintail,30ish golden plover,2 litte egrets,loads of redshank.

penmon point-1 razorbill,5 mipits, 1 grey seal

loads of other places visited but nothing worth a mention.

Just got back from N Wales too - down on the Llyn at Nefyn. Got some sea-watching in off Porth Ysgaden last Wed 26 after it stopped raining (not that dedicated!). Got 49 Manxies in first hr (didn't count very accurately after that), 20 Whimbrel in 3 small groups, 7 Curlew, 14 Sandwich Terns, 8 Gannets, 5 Kittiwakes, 5 Razorbills, 3 Fulmars, 3 Shag, and other stuff. That was supposedly the tail end of Hurricane Bill but the weather wasn't half as bad as last Sunday as anyone else unlucky enough to be in that neck of the woods will confirm!

sid ashton wrote:

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Brandon were you unable to find the Black Guillemots in Holyhead Harbour?

Sid

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sadly Sid we didn't as our non birding majority won over most of the trip even though we were so close, as a matter of interest they didn't even bother getting out of the car to walk down the steps to the lighthouse after walking down the short steps to south stack!! We had the last laugh tho as we took over 2 hours around the lighthouse and the island it's on!!! Not happy bunnies!

I'm afraid not Brandon although I have a feeling who you did speak to. I was on the Little Orme only but managed to get onto 4 Little Terns which came my way from the point, as i'd had a tip-off from a birder at the point!
In terms of seawatching the point is good as you can sit in a nice warm car with scope on the window, music on the radio etc but it is only just above sea-level. The orme just puts you that little bit further into the sea and with a little bit of altitude making the distant birds easier to see as they don't disappear behind too many troughs in the rolling waves.
Cheers. Henry.

Brandon were you unable to find the Black Guillemots in Holyhead Harbour?

Sid

we heard about the balearic shears from a chap on the point on saturday that wasn't you by any chance was it! We never got to see them though! We were trying to count the sandwich terns that had collected on the rocks nearby.

I had a look off Point Lynas, Anglesey the other day and there were hundreds (500+) Razorbills sitting close inshore with chicks in tow as part of a large feeding flock. Manxies, Gannets, Guillemots, Gulls, fishing boats and a Med Gull (2w) all joining in! Wrong wind direction though for scarce seabirds but later in the week watches off the Little Orme, Conwy produced 3 Balearic Shearwaters, 1 Arctic Skua, 4 Little Terns, 1 Whimbrel and 2500+ Kits amongst large numbers of birds on the move.
Winds are looking good for next Friday in Liverpool Bay. Time for some nice early Leach's perhaps?
Cheers. Henry.

Hi Brandon, you need to be about a month earlier for auks still at nest sites

Oh,and for anyone needing the loo at South Stack, at least in Summer, there are public ones half way up the road between the carparks. May be closed in winter

just got back from a week of high winds and awful weather but we saw some good birds...

thursday

south stack
gbbg,
lbbg,
herring gull,
chough,
kittiwake,
no puffins, guillemots, or razorbill

puffin island boat trip
cormorants,
shag,
guillemots,
gbbg,
lbbg,
herring gull
razorbill ,
manx shearwater,
gannet,
oystercatchers
no puffins AGAIN

sunday

rspb conway
whimbrel,
curlew,
BT godwit,
teal,
shelduck,
sparrowhawk,
buzzard,
LR plover,
G heron ,
M swan,
little egret,
little grebe,
swallow,
white wagtail,
crow,
starling,
canada,
moorhen,
coot,
mallard,
gadwall,
house+sand martins,

other birds we saw ...


little egret,
sandwich terns,
turnstone,
rock pipit,
goosander,
jackdaw,
embden,
greylag,
raven,


-- Edited by brandon mulhern on Sunday 30th of August 2009 08:45:22 PM

Hi Brandon,

Note that there are no toilets at South Stack apart from the ones in the privately owned cafe up the hill.

Also no toilets at Cemlyn Lagoon. Useful leaflet on the reserve at:-

Cemlyn Reserve

The Western car park is nearer to the best viewpoint.

PS check the tide times as there is no access from this car park one hour either side of high tide.

Best of luck.

Gary

-- Edited by Gary Marland on Saturday 8th of August 2009 04:51:52 PM