Good to see 12 Greenfinch at the Bunting hide with plenty of Bull finches and also 7 Stock doves this morning
Ian McKerchar said
Fri Feb 4 11:32 PM, 2011
3 Shelduck this morning.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Ian McKerchar said
Tue Feb 1 6:58 PM, 2011
34 Redpoll in Birch on Ramsdales Ruck this morning.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Ian McKerchar said
Mon Jan 31 3:07 PM, 2011
22 Redpoll by the canal this morning.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Keith Mills said
Sat Jan 29 9:15 PM, 2011
Fairly short visit this afternoon.
Around the spit: 7 pairs Goosander. 5 pairs Tufted Ducks. 4 GC Grebes. 1 Little Grebe. 15 Lapwing. 30 Teal 4 Cormorants 3 Grey Heron Circa 100 Bh Gulls ( 3 showing hood outline) 8 LBB Gulls 6 Common Gulls 4 Shell Duck 2 Stock Dove Also Crows/Coots/Moorhens and (gleaming) Mallards.
Teal Hide : 2 pairs Gadwall and 3 Shovelers
Trees: Goldfinch/Coal tit /Willow Tit /Blue and Great Tits/ Chaffinch/Robin 1 Lesser Redpoll.
-- Edited by keith mills on Sunday 30th of January 2011 08:46:10 PM
Ian McKerchar said
Sat Jan 29 10:16 AM, 2011
Adult Mediterranean Gull on the spit at 10:10 this morning.
Info thanks to Dave Broome
Chris Greene said
Sat Jan 29 8:21 AM, 2011
Post for yesterday 27/01/11 ... Nice crisp ,bright day .. 30+ Goosander 5 pr of Shoveler 6 widgeon 5 teal 2 pr goldeneye pair of shelduck 9 heron lapwing aplenty Unsucessful kestrel Stock dove And finally , a sleeping fox. Cheers Chris.
Ian McKerchar said
Fri Jan 28 7:58 PM, 2011
9 Wigeon present this morning.
Info thanks to Bill Harrison
Ian McKerchar said
Wed Jan 26 4:30 PM, 2011
This morning:
32 Pochard 30 Goosander 2 Shelduck 1 Buzzard
Info thansk to Barry Hulme
Ian McKerchar said
Mon Jan 24 12:35 PM, 2011
This morning:
26 Goosander 27 Pochard 1 Buzzard 9 Greylag Geese over
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
JOHN TYMON said
Mon Jan 24 10:09 AM, 2011
sunday pm-late with this -internet off at home for some reason-anyone on orange having issues -private message me-then again if your having probs,you won't be on here-im on at work pochard-50(good number these days) goldeneye-36+ goosander-30 shellduck-2 tufted-300+ redpoll-10 siskin-25 plus the usual
JOHN TYMON said
Sat Jan 22 7:48 PM, 2011
as well as daves lappys Goosander-25 great crested grebe-5 tufted duck-c200 redpoll-20 pochard-20 goldeneye-30+ kestrel-2 teal shoveler wigeon-8 great spotted woodpecker-1
Dave Thacker said
Sat Jan 22 5:19 PM, 2011
173 Lapwings on the end of the spit and on the ice in front of Horrocks hide this morning
Pete Astles said
Sat Jan 22 4:57 PM, 2011
John
Where does your daughter buy pizza? £45 sounds a tad expensive, always shop around is my moto.
Ian McKerchar said
Sat Jan 22 2:49 PM, 2011
Then we're implying the car park isn't?
Used by let's say an average of at least 150 cars a day (and that's a very low estimate I would think) how many incidents of criminality are we aware of? I personally know of two and that's going back as far as I can remember, which now stretches back fifteen years, with the fifteen before that now a fading memory unfortunately! That's a particularly low crime rate for any car park in Greater Manchester, even if you add on several incidents which may not have been reported etc. How long do we think it would take for criminals to exploit lots of cars parking in the much quieter and at the beck and call of the local council estate, Common Lane? A mate's mum lives along there (in fact right opposite where cars can be parked) and it is certainly not the picture of immunity from criminal activity that one might think. Far from it!
Just a thought anyway...
Judith Smith said
Sat Jan 22 2:36 PM, 2011
It's safe, though, at Common Lane.
JOHN TYMON said
Sat Jan 22 1:13 AM, 2011
Ian McKerchar wrote:
Judith Smith wrote:
Another reason for parking on Common Lane and walking over the canal bridge!
What, a meagre 20p rise in over 5 years? I really couldn't agree less I'm afraid.
The feeding station at Pennington alone cost a small fortune to run and whilst the revenue from the car park itself may not go directly towards it's upkeep, the funding to do so is certainly assisted by it! The new hides there, which we're all happy to use, were built using funding saught with the flash's popularity and it's car park revenue as effective and vital reasoning tools. Encouraging visitors not to use the car park is to assist in the long term demise of funding and therefore the excellent place the flash is. Show me a better equipped site in the county or one with such year round interest and cross-section of species. We might not agree with all Wigan MBC's policies etc but surely we should be encouraging birders to visit and therefore contribute to the continuation of work either being carried out or indeed in the pipeline? Especially in these times when severe cuts are in order and sites like this need all the leverage they can get in obtaining the required funds. I don't doubt the pay and display car park there makes a small fortune and I might not agree with where all that money goes but its a big reason the flash is able to continue in it's day to day running where others cannot.
I see the RSPB have made the was free car park at Binn Green a £1:20 pay and display and all for another nothing extra which it had before, seems okay? I don't begrudge paying there of course as I appreciate the work the RSPB has or is doing and that's despite not agreeing with all their policies. Should we have advised birders visiting the Hollingworth Lake Pied-billed Grebe not to use their pay and display car park too?
We'll pay thousands for our optics, put a fortune in our fuel tanks to get us from site to site but yet begrudge £1:20 to enjoy the object of our 'hobby'. Personally I pay more than that on an ice cream when I go there!
Or you can do as I have always done and get a year parking permit,I think it was about £45 for the year at penny,may seem a lot but 3 visits a week for me 52 weeks a year,it saves me about £100 and I don't have to faff about getting a ticket,so streight on birding when i go on,a small price to pay for my year round pleasure,and less than my daughter pays going for a pitza on a night out.and last time I parked on common lane,which was about 4 years ago,I got back to my car and a group of kids were using my car as a goal post,bouncing footballs off it
>
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Saturday 22nd of January 2011 01:31:51 AM
Ian McKerchar said
Fri Jan 21 11:51 PM, 2011
Judith Smith wrote:
Another reason for parking on Common Lane and walking over the canal bridge!
What, a meagre 20p rise in over 5 years? I really couldn't agree less I'm afraid.
The feeding station at Pennington alone cost a small fortune to run and whilst the revenue from the car park itself may not go directly towards it's upkeep, the funding to do so is certainly assisted by it! The new hides there, which we're all happy to use, were built using funding saught with the flash's popularity and it's car park revenue as effective and vital reasoning tools. Encouraging visitors not to use the car park is to assist in the long term demise of funding and therefore the excellent place the flash is. Show me a better equipped site in the county or one with such year round interest and cross-section of species. We might not agree with all Wigan MBC's policies etc but surely we should be encouraging birders to visit and therefore contribute to the continuation of work either being carried out or indeed in the pipeline? Especially in these times when severe cuts are in order and sites like this need all the leverage they can get in obtaining the required funds. I don't doubt the pay and display car park there makes a small fortune and I might not agree with where all that money goes but its a big reason the flash is able to continue in it's day to day running where others cannot.
I see the RSPB have made the was free car park at Binn Green a £1:20 pay and display and all for another nothing extra which it had before, seems okay? I don't begrudge paying there of course as I appreciate the work the RSPB has or is doing and that's despite not agreeing with all their policies. Should we have advised birders visiting the Hollingworth Lake Pied-billed Grebe not to use their pay and display car park too?
We'll pay thousands for our optics, put a fortune in our fuel tanks to get us from site to site but yet begrudge £1:20 to enjoy the object of our 'hobby'. Personally I pay more than that on an ice cream when I go there!
Judith Smith said
Fri Jan 21 10:41 PM, 2011
Another reason for parking on Common Lane and walking over the canal bridge!
Ian McKerchar said
Fri Jan 21 9:49 PM, 2011
Please note the following important information:
The Pay & Display charge for the car park will increase from £1.00 to £1.20 from Thursday 27th January 2011. The change over will take place some time during the day on that day.
Please ensure you have the correct coins with you as the pay & display machines do not give change.
Should you wish to contact a member of staff please telephone 01942 605253
Ian McKerchar said
Mon Jan 17 9:48 PM, 2011
Shelduck in particular do like to travel between the two areas.
JOHN TYMON said
Mon Jan 17 9:22 PM, 2011
Judith Smith wrote:
Presumably the 5 Shelduck were the same as the 5 at Dover Basin at 4pm
there have been 2 males at penny on the teal scrape at the weekendso could be different birds
Judith Smith said
Mon Jan 17 9:00 PM, 2011
Presumably the 5 Shelduck were the same as the 5 at Dover Basin at 4pm
Ian McKerchar said
Mon Jan 17 3:42 PM, 2011
Two skeins of Pink-feet over at 12:15 today with 185 directly over the flash heading WNW and 160 heading due west just to the south of the flash.
5 Shelduck
Single Woodcock flushed off the rucks by a dog flew straight towards me then veered off into the trees before ditching close by. It then continued to run at break neck speed through the trees before finally noticing me and flying off again.
JOHN TYMON said
Sun Jan 16 3:57 PM, 2011
pm wet goldeneye-42(biggest no this winter) pochard-33 tufted-230 gadwall-29 teal-c130 shoveler=c40 wigeon-6 goosander-27 shellduck-2m siskin-50 redpoll-3 bullfinch-18 plus all the usual suspects
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Sunday 16th of January 2011 06:16:14 PM
Gary Gorner said
Sat Jan 15 4:49 PM, 2011
WHILST DROPPING VERNON OFF AT THE YAUGHT CLUB END 4.00PM ISH 3 FIELDS FULL OF GULLS JUST LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BEEN SNOWING 3000+
JOHN TYMON said
Sat Jan 15 3:23 PM, 2011
late am/pm siskin-120+ (3 flocks) redpoll-15 mixed in with siskins goosander-30+ wigeon-6 kestrel-1 goldeneye-20+ gull rooste building up has i had to leave plus the usual stuff
dave broome said
Fri Jan 14 6:54 PM, 2011
gull roost this evening (though only to 16:30) - c5100 Black-Headed, 105 Common, 57 Lesser Black-Backed, 2 Herring (1 ad argentatus), 2 Great Black-Backed
160+ Tufted Duck visible, mostly in Ramsdale's, though presumably this weekend's WeBS count will get a proper count
JOHN TYMON said
Fri Jan 14 5:35 PM, 2011
pm Goosander-36 goldeneye-26 pochard-23 wigeon-6 siskin -60+ up along the path parallel with the canal redpoll-15-20 with siskins-1 large pale bird probably mealy goldfinch-40 teal-plenty lapwing-250+ bullfinch-12+ Long Tailed Tit-15+ reed bunting -4 kestrel sparrowhawk common buzzard -2 soaring over rammies ruck thank god the ice has gone
Ian McKerchar said
Sun Jan 9 10:06 AM, 2011
100 Pink-feet south at 08:33 this morning. 31 Goldeneye 21 Pochard
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
JOHN TYMON said
Sat Jan 8 6:34 PM, 2011
late am-early pm goosander-12 goldeneye-4 wigeon-3 teal -50+ lapwing 45 peregrine -1 west 11.40 kestrel-resident male scrapping with an intruder usual at bunting hide siskin-7
JOHN TYMON said
Fri Jan 7 9:02 PM, 2011
pm flash almost totaly frozen,just small pool by car park and 10 foot pool end of point. lapwing - 80 on ice end of point teal-70- on ice end of point goosander-2 goldeneye-6f kestrel-1 usual at bunting hide wigeon-4 few shoveler/gadwall grey heron-4 no bittern
Ian McKerchar said
Fri Jan 7 8:23 PM, 2011
Drake pintail on the pool at the end of the spit this morning, then flew south at 08:25.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Jason Dulhanty said
Thu Jan 6 3:34 PM, 2011
I also saw the Bittern at 13.50 at the backend of Ramsdale hide near the small stone path and farmers gate. Chuffed is not the word
-- Edited by jay11189 on Thursday 6th of January 2011 03:41:09 PM
Ian McKerchar said
Thu Jan 6 8:37 AM, 2011
Two Bitterns seen in Ramsdales reedbed at 08:32 this morning.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Ian McKerchar said
Wed Jan 5 9:19 PM, 2011
This morning:
Singles of Dunlin and Redshank on the spit. 24 Goosander.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Keith Mills said
Tue Jan 4 3:38 PM, 2011
A pleasant afternoon up to 2.30 pm. In aid of my year list . 15 species gained. Best of which: From the car park benches: close views of Goldeneye(pair) 5 Lbb Gulls, 1 Herring Gull, and a male Widgeon. Pristine flock of Lt tits and 2 Herons in the trees. Around the spit: Teal (many), Shelduck, Shoveler, drake Goosander with 2 Redheads. Bunting hide: aglow with Bullfinches and superb regular views of Willow Tit.
-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Tuesday 4th of January 2011 03:53:45 PM
Rob Thorpe said
Sun Jan 2 5:17 PM, 2011
Sunday 02 January 2011
A Brambling called twice somewhere over the rucks this morning, but I didn't see it. 4 Wigeon (2 pairs) were on the ice near the car park.
-- Edited by Rob Thorpe on Sunday 2nd of January 2011 05:18:04 PM
JOHN TYMON said
Fri Dec 31 2:54 PM, 2010
late am foggy couldn't see at the front of my nose-so went to richmond bank
Ian McKerchar said
Thu Dec 30 4:25 PM, 2010
44 Goosander present early this morning.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
JOHN TYMON said
Thu Dec 30 3:01 PM, 2010
foggy this aft visibility over flash about 40 yards goldeneye-13 in small open patch by carpark kingfisher-1 goosander-a few over ,couldn't see where they gather at the top of point a few skylarks over.
Nick Isherwood said
Thu Dec 30 11:57 AM, 2010
Bittern present this morning at 11.20 at Ramsdales reedbed. Viewed by myself and Dave Evans.
Ian McKerchar said
Wed Dec 29 6:21 PM, 2010
On my way back through Sandy Lane very early evening today a Barn Owl flew across the road around the 'back o Billies' area and headed low west. A terrific end to a good day and my first site record!
colin davies said
Wed Dec 29 11:34 AM, 2010
Ian McKerchar wrote:
Bitttern once again flushed (accidentally) from close to the woodchip path by Ramsdales Hide early am today.
Info thanks to Bill Harrison
Hi Ian, I was with Bill when we saw the Bittern. It didn't actually flush at all, we saw it, it saw us, and it just wandered off into cover. We were only about 15m away from it, but it didn't fly. Quite surprising really.
Colin
Ian McKerchar said
Wed Dec 29 11:28 AM, 2010
Bitttern once again flushed (accidentally) from close to the woodchip path by Ramsdales Hide early am today.
Info thanks to Bill Harrison
Dave Thacker said
Tue Dec 28 7:25 PM, 2010
It was like dancing on ice trying to walk around today
Great views of the Goldeneye and a dodgy looking gull out on the ice
Water rail heard in the small bay next to Horrocks
15+ Bullfinch at the Bunting hide but no Willow tits seen
Joe Wynn said
Tue Dec 28 2:19 PM, 2010
As well as what john got, that party of about 6 Stock Doves were at the feeding station again. There was also a brown rat so close to the hide you could practically smell it!
JOHN TYMON said
Tue Dec 28 1:19 PM, 2010
am paths trechourous,anyone thinking of going think again,its gone like last year,all paths like glass,some impossible to walk on-still the same 2 small patches open only goosander-12 goldeneye-3m,7f wigeon-2 shoveler-10 teal -75 coot-100+ not a lot else
Tony Coatsworth said
Mon Dec 27 1:42 PM, 2010
3 Stock Doves showing well under the feeders
Ian McKerchar said
Mon Dec 27 9:20 AM, 2010
41 Goosanders early this morning and a Bittern flushed from close to the chipped path near Ramsdales Hide, flew over towards Ramsdales reedbed.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Around the spit:
7 pairs Goosander.
5 pairs Tufted Ducks.
4 GC Grebes.
1 Little Grebe.
15 Lapwing.
30 Teal
4 Cormorants
3 Grey Heron
Circa 100 Bh Gulls ( 3 showing hood outline)
8 LBB Gulls
6 Common Gulls
4 Shell Duck
2 Stock Dove
Also Crows/Coots/Moorhens and (gleaming) Mallards.
Teal Hide : 2 pairs Gadwall and 3 Shovelers
Trees: Goldfinch/Coal tit /Willow Tit /Blue and Great Tits/ Chaffinch/Robin
1 Lesser Redpoll.
-- Edited by keith mills on Sunday 30th of January 2011 08:46:10 PM
Info thanks to Dave Broome
Nice crisp ,bright day ..
30+ Goosander
5 pr of Shoveler
6 widgeon
5 teal
2 pr goldeneye
pair of shelduck
9 heron
lapwing aplenty
Unsucessful kestrel
Stock dove
And finally , a sleeping fox.
Cheers Chris.
Info thanks to Bill Harrison
32 Pochard
30 Goosander
2 Shelduck
1 Buzzard
Info thansk to Barry Hulme
26 Goosander
27 Pochard
1 Buzzard
9 Greylag Geese over
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
pochard-50(good number these days)
goldeneye-36+
goosander-30
shellduck-2
tufted-300+
redpoll-10
siskin-25
plus the usual
Goosander-25
great crested grebe-5
tufted duck-c200
redpoll-20
pochard-20
goldeneye-30+
kestrel-2
teal
shoveler
wigeon-8
great spotted woodpecker-1
Where does your daughter buy pizza? £45 sounds a tad expensive, always shop around is my moto.
Used by let's say an average of at least 150 cars a day (and that's a very low estimate I would think) how many incidents of criminality are we aware of? I personally know of two and that's going back as far as I can remember, which now stretches back fifteen years, with the fifteen before that now a fading memory unfortunately! That's a particularly low crime rate for any car park in Greater Manchester, even if you add on several incidents which may not have been reported etc. How long do we think it would take for criminals to exploit lots of cars parking in the much quieter and at the beck and call of the local council estate, Common Lane? A mate's mum lives along there (in fact right opposite where cars can be parked) and it is certainly not the picture of immunity from criminal activity that one might think. Far from it!
Just a thought anyway...
Or you can do as I have always done and get a year parking permit,I think it was about £45 for the year at penny,may seem a lot but 3 visits a week for me 52 weeks a year,it saves me about £100 and I don't have to faff about getting a ticket,so streight on birding when i go on,a small price to pay for my year round pleasure,and less than my daughter pays going for a pitza on a night out.
>
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Saturday 22nd of January 2011 01:31:51 AM
What, a meagre 20p rise in over 5 years? I really couldn't agree less I'm afraid.
The feeding station at Pennington alone cost a small fortune to run and whilst the revenue from the car park itself may not go directly towards it's upkeep, the funding to do so is certainly assisted by it! The new hides there, which we're all happy to use, were built using funding saught with the flash's popularity and it's car park revenue as effective and vital reasoning tools. Encouraging visitors not to use the car park is to assist in the long term demise of funding and therefore the excellent place the flash is. Show me a better equipped site in the county or one with such year round interest and cross-section of species. We might not agree with all Wigan MBC's policies etc but surely we should be encouraging birders to visit and therefore contribute to the continuation of work either being carried out or indeed in the pipeline? Especially in these times when severe cuts are in order and sites like this need all the leverage they can get in obtaining the required funds. I don't doubt the pay and display car park there makes a small fortune and I might not agree with where all that money goes but its a big reason the flash is able to continue in it's day to day running where others cannot.
I see the RSPB have made the was free car park at Binn Green a £1:20 pay and display and all for another nothing extra which it had before, seems okay? I don't begrudge paying there of course as I appreciate the work the RSPB has or is doing and that's despite not agreeing with all their policies. Should we have advised birders visiting the Hollingworth Lake Pied-billed Grebe not to use their pay and display car park too?
We'll pay thousands for our optics, put a fortune in our fuel tanks to get us from site to site but yet begrudge £1:20 to enjoy the object of our 'hobby'. Personally I pay more than that on an ice cream when I go there!
The Pay & Display charge for the car park will increase from £1.00 to £1.20 from Thursday 27th January 2011. The change over will take place some time during the day on that day.
Please ensure you have the correct coins with you as the pay & display machines do not give change.
Should you wish to contact a member of staff please telephone 01942 605253
there have been 2 males at penny on the teal scrape at the weekend
5 Shelduck
Single Woodcock flushed off the rucks by a dog flew straight towards me then veered off into the trees before ditching close by. It then continued to run at break neck speed through the trees before finally noticing me and flying off again.
goldeneye-42(biggest no this winter)
pochard-33
tufted-230
gadwall-29
teal-c130
shoveler=c40
wigeon-6
goosander-27
shellduck-2m
siskin-50
redpoll-3
bullfinch-18
plus all the usual suspects
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Sunday 16th of January 2011 06:16:14 PM
siskin-120+ (3 flocks)
redpoll-15 mixed in with siskins
goosander-30+
wigeon-6
kestrel-1
goldeneye-20+
gull rooste building up has i had to leave
plus the usual stuff
c5100 Black-Headed, 105 Common, 57 Lesser Black-Backed, 2 Herring (1 ad argentatus), 2 Great Black-Backed
160+ Tufted Duck visible, mostly in Ramsdale's, though presumably this weekend's WeBS count will get a proper count
Goosander-36
goldeneye-26
pochard-23
wigeon-6
siskin -60+ up along the path parallel with the canal
redpoll-15-20 with siskins-1 large pale bird probably mealy
goldfinch-40
teal-plenty
lapwing-250+
bullfinch-12+
Long Tailed Tit-15+
reed bunting -4
kestrel
sparrowhawk
common buzzard -2 soaring over rammies ruck
thank god the ice has gone
31 Goldeneye
21 Pochard
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
goosander-12
goldeneye-4
wigeon-3
teal -50+
lapwing 45
peregrine -1 west 11.40
kestrel-resident male scrapping with an intruder
usual at bunting hide
siskin-7
flash almost totaly frozen,just small pool by car park and 10 foot pool end of point.
lapwing - 80 on ice end of point
teal-70- on ice end of point
goosander-2
goldeneye-6f
kestrel-1
usual at bunting hide
wigeon-4
few shoveler/gadwall
grey heron-4
no bittern
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
-- Edited by jay11189 on Thursday 6th of January 2011 03:41:09 PM
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Singles of Dunlin and Redshank on the spit.
24 Goosander.
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
Best of which:
From the car park benches: close views of Goldeneye(pair) 5 Lbb Gulls, 1 Herring Gull,
and a male Widgeon.
Pristine flock of Lt tits and 2 Herons in the trees.
Around the spit: Teal (many), Shelduck, Shoveler, drake Goosander with 2 Redheads.
Bunting hide: aglow with Bullfinches and superb regular views of Willow Tit.
-- Edited by Ian McKerchar on Tuesday 4th of January 2011 03:53:45 PM
A Brambling called twice somewhere over the rucks this morning, but I didn't see it.
4 Wigeon (2 pairs) were on the ice near the car park.
-- Edited by Rob Thorpe on Sunday 2nd of January 2011 05:18:04 PM
foggy
couldn't see at the front of my nose-so went to richmond bank
Info thanks to Barry Hulme
goldeneye-13 in small open patch by carpark
kingfisher-1
goosander-a few over ,couldn't see where they gather at the top of point
a few skylarks over.
Hi Ian,
I was with Bill when we saw the Bittern. It didn't actually flush at all, we saw it, it saw us, and it just wandered off into cover. We were only about 15m away from it, but it didn't fly. Quite surprising really.
Colin
Info thanks to Bill Harrison
Great views of the Goldeneye and a dodgy looking gull out on the ice
Water rail heard in the small bay next to Horrocks
15+ Bullfinch at the Bunting hide but no Willow tits seen
paths trechourous,anyone thinking of going think again,its gone like last year,all paths like glass,some impossible to walk on-still the same 2 small patches open only
goosander-12
goldeneye-3m,7f
wigeon-2
shoveler-10
teal -75
coot-100+
not a lot else
Info thanks to Barry Hulme